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  • EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE. >> SENATOR BARBARA BOXER, THANK

  • >> SENATOR BARBARA BOXER, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

  • YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

  • I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >>> JOINING ME NOW FOR MORE ON

  • >>> JOINING ME NOW FOR MORE ON THE MOMENTUM SING, MADDIE SA

  • THE MOMENTUM SING, MADDIE SA HASSAN, HOST OF THE

  • HASSAN, HOST OF THE DECONSTRUCTED PODCAST.

  • DECONSTRUCTED PODCAST. I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FEARS

  • I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FEARS ABOUT JOE BIDEN’S ELECTABILITY

  • ABOUT JOE BIDEN’S ELECTABILITY BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BERNIE

  • BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS.

  • SANDERS. IT’S STRUCK ME THAT THE SANDERS

  • IT’S STRUCK ME THAT THE SANDERS THEORY IS AN INTERESTING

  • THEORY IS AN INTERESTING SELF-TESTING HYPOTHESIS IN THIS

  • SELF-TESTING HYPOTHESIS IN THIS WAY.

  • WAY. THE IDEA IS, LOOK, WE KNOW WERE

  • THE IDEA IS, LOOK, WE KNOW WERE RUNNING AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC

  • RUNNING AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT.

  • ESTABLISHMENT. WE KNOW THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT

  • WE KNOW THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO BRING NEW PEOPLE IN TO

  • IS TO BRING NEW PEOPLE IN TO MAKE THE MATH WORK, AND THUS FAR

  • MAKE THE MATH WORK, AND THUS FAR THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO

  • THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DELIVER ON THAT PROMISE OF NEW

  • DELIVER ON THAT PROMISE OF NEW TURNOUT, PARTICULARLY AMONG

  • TURNOUT, PARTICULARLY AMONG YOUNGER VOTERS.

  • YOUNGER VOTERS. IT’S GONE UP A LITTLE BUT THE

  • IT’S GONE UP A LITTLE BUT THE PLACES WHERE WE SAW THE BIGGEST

  • PLACES WHERE WE SAW THE BIGGEST TURNOUT BOOSTS, LIKE VIRGINIA IS

  • TURNOUT BOOSTS, LIKE VIRGINIA IS THAT IS WHERE SANDERS GOT

  • THAT IS WHERE SANDERS GOT CRUSHED.

  • CRUSHED. >> THE SANDERS PEOPLE I SPOKE TO

  • >> THE SANDERS PEOPLE I SPOKE TO TODAY ARE DISAPPOINTED AND THEY

  • TODAY ARE DISAPPOINTED AND THEY DON’T GET IT BECAUSE THERE IS A

  • DON’T GET IT BECAUSE THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE HUGE

  • DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE HUGE RALLIES AND THE DISCONNECT

  • RALLIES AND THE DISCONNECT ONLINE AND ELSEWHERE IN TERMS OF

  • ONLINE AND ELSEWHERE IN TERMS OF SMALLER DONORS AND YET YOUTH

  • SMALLER DONORS AND YET YOUTH TURNOUT WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO

  • TURNOUT WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO POWER HIM TO THE NOMINATION,

  • POWER HIM TO THE NOMINATION, YOUTH TURNOUT WAS LOWER THAN IN

  • YOUTH TURNOUT WAS LOWER THAN IN 2016.

  • 2016. SO THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR THE

  • SO THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN GOING FORWARD

  • SANDERS CAMPAIGN GOING FORWARD AND THEYRE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX

  • AND THEYRE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX THAT IN MICHIGAN BECAUSE THAT IS

  • THAT IN MICHIGAN BECAUSE THAT IS CRUCIAL TO HIS STRATEGY.

  • CRUCIAL TO HIS STRATEGY. >> THERE’S A NEW CAMPAIGN THEY

  • >> THERE’S A NEW CAMPAIGN THEY PUT OUT SHOWING BERNIE SANDERS

  • PUT OUT SHOWING BERNIE SANDERS WITH BARACK OBAMA, BARACK OBAMA

  • WITH BARACK OBAMA, BARACK OBAMA PRAISING HIM, WHICH IS AN ENTIRE

  • PRAISING HIM, WHICH IS AN ENTIRE CAMPAIGN GENRE.

  • CAMPAIGN GENRE. IT MADE THIS POINT, THE WORK

  • IT MADE THIS POINT, THE WORK REQUIRES CONVINCING LEGISLATORS

  • REQUIRES CONVINCING LEGISLATORS IN YOUR PARTY TO SUPPORT YOUR

  • IN YOUR PARTY TO SUPPORT YOUR AGENDA.

  • AGENDA. IF SANDERS AND HIS TEAM DON’T

  • IF SANDERS AND HIS TEAM DON’T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT, THEY

  • FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT, THEY COULD VERY WELL LOSE TO BIDEN

  • COULD VERY WELL LOSE TO BIDEN AND EVEN IF THEY WIN, THEYLL BE

  • AND EVEN IF THEY WIN, THEYLL BE UNABLE TO GOVERN, MEANING HOW TO

  • UNABLE TO GOVERN, MEANING HOW TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE

  • BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE COALITION.

  • COALITION. DO YOU THINK THAT’S THE MAIN

  • DO YOU THINK THAT’S THE MAIN CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW?

  • CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW? >> IT’S NOT THE MAIN CHALLENGE

  • >> IT’S NOT THE MAIN CHALLENGE BUT IT’S DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE.

  • BUT IT’S DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE. WHEN JIM CLYBURN SAYS THAT

  • WHEN JIM CLYBURN SAYS THAT BERNIE SANDERS DIDN’T REACH OUT

  • BERNIE SANDERS DIDN’T REACH OUT TO HIM, THAT’S A PROBLEM.

  • TO HIM, THAT’S A PROBLEM. LET’S BE HONEST, NOTHING BERNIE

  • LET’S BE HONEST, NOTHING BERNIE SANDERS COULD HAVE SAID WOULD

  • SANDERS COULD HAVE SAID WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AMY KLOBUCHAR TO

  • HAVE GOTTEN AMY KLOBUCHAR TO ENDORSE HIM.

  • ENDORSE HIM. AS CHARMING OR FRIENDLY AS HE

  • AS CHARMING OR FRIENDLY AS HE CAN BE, HE HAS A POLICY PLATFORM

  • CAN BE, HE HAS A POLICY PLATFORM THAT A LOT OF 2K78 DEMOCRATS ARE

  • THAT A LOT OF 2K78 DEMOCRATS ARE NOT GOING TO REACH OUT FOR.

  • NOT GOING TO REACH OUT FOR. HE DOES NEED ELIZABETH WARREN

  • HE DOES NEED ELIZABETH WARREN GOING INTO MICHIGAN AND THE

  • GOING INTO MICHIGAN AND THE OTHER STATES.

  • OTHER STATES. I WOULD BRIEFLY RESPOND TO

  • I WOULD BRIEFLY RESPOND TO BARBARA BOXER ABOUT JOE BIDEN.

  • BARBARA BOXER ABOUT JOE BIDEN. THIS IS NOT ABOUT BERNIE

  • THIS IS NOT ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS.

  • SANDERS. BIDEN IS NOW THE FRONT-RUNNER.

  • BIDEN IS NOW THE FRONT-RUNNER. YOU CAN THINK BERNIE SANDERS IS

  • YOU CAN THINK BERNIE SANDERS IS A CRAZY COMMUNIST WHO CAN’T WIN

  • A CRAZY COMMUNIST WHO CAN’T WIN M

  • M IN NORTH AMERICA BUT IF YOUBIDEN

  • IN NORTH AMERICA BUT IF YOUBIDEN NOT BEEN VETTED.

  • NOT BEEN VETTED. HE’S NOT BEEN ASKED ABOUT THE

  • HE’S NOT BEEN ASKED ABOUT THE BANKRUPTCY BILL, NEVER PROBED

  • BANKRUPTCY BILL, NEVER PROBED ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR AND HIS

  • ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR AND HIS TURNAROUND ON THE IRAQ WAR AND I

  • TURNAROUND ON THE IRAQ WAR AND I DON’T THINK WHY DEMOCRATS THINK

  • DON’T THINK WHY DEMOCRATS THINK YOU CAN RERUN THE 2016 PLAYBOOK

  • YOU CAN RERUN THE 2016 PLAYBOOK AND NOT THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP

  • AND NOT THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL RERUN HIS.

  • WILL RERUN HIS. THEY TRIED TO RUN A PRO-IRAQ

  • THEY TRIED TO RUN A PRO-IRAQ WAR, PRO-WALL STREET

  • WAR, PRO-WALL STREET ESTABLISHMENT

  • ESTABLISHMENT ESTABLISHMENT.

  • ESTABLISHMENT. WHERE DID THAT END UP?

  • WHERE DID THAT END UP? WHAT’S THE OLD SAYING, INSANITY

  • WHAT’S THE OLD SAYING, INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN

  • IS DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN AND AGAIN AND EXPECTING

  • AND AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS.

  • DIFFERENT RESULTS. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO

  • >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT ASIDE WHICH IS BOTH AN

  • SAY THAT ASIDE WHICH IS BOTH AN ELECTABILITY AND IDEALOGICAL

  • ELECTABILITY AND IDEALOGICAL CRITIQUE MARRIED TOGETHER I

  • CRITIQUE MARRIED TOGETHER I THINK IT’S FAIR TO SAY, WHAT DO

  • THINK IT’S FAIR TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE LIKE

  • YOU THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE LIKE A KYRSTEN SINEMA.

  • A KYRSTEN SINEMA. SHE WON THAT STATE SORT OF

  • SHE WON THAT STATE SORT OF AGAINST THE ODDS.

  • AGAINST THE ODDS. SHE’S COMING OUT FOR JOE BIDEN

  • SHE’S COMING OUT FOR JOE BIDEN TODAY.

  • TODAY. YOU SEE MARK KELLY WHO’S TRYING

  • YOU SEE MARK KELLY WHO’S TRYING TO WIN IN ARIZONA.

  • TO WIN IN ARIZONA. YOU SEE FRONT LINE DEMOCRATS IN

  • YOU SEE FRONT LINE DEMOCRATS IN SWING DISTRICTS.

  • SWING DISTRICTS. DO YOU THINK THOSE FOLKS IN

  • DO YOU THINK THOSE FOLKS IN THOSE TOUGH SWING AREAS, ARE

  • THOSE TOUGH SWING AREAS, ARE THEY MISUNDERSTANDING THEIR OWN

  • THEY MISUNDERSTANDING THEIR OWN POLITICAL INTERESTS AND GETTING

  • POLITICAL INTERESTS AND GETTING IT WRONG WHEN THEY SAY I PREFER

  • IT WRONG WHEN THEY SAY I PREFER BIDEN AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET

  • BIDEN AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET THAN SANDERS?

  • THAN SANDERS? >> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION AND

  • >> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION AND YOU HAVE TO COME TO SO MANY

  • YOU HAVE TO COME TO SO MANY THINGS IN PLAY.

  • THINGS IN PLAY. IF YOURE TALKING ABOUT

  • IF YOURE TALKING ABOUT CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS IN SWING

  • CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS IN SWING STATES WHERE THE DOUG JONES AND

  • STATES WHERE THE DOUG JONES AND SINEMA AND OTHERS, OF COURSE

  • SINEMA AND OTHERS, OF COURSE THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC

  • THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC EVALUATIONS

  • EVALUATIONS EVALUATIONS

  • EVALUATIONS EVALUATIONS THEY HAVE TO DO BUT

  • EVALUATIONS THEY HAVE TO DO BUT AS BARBARA BOXER SAID NOBODY IS

  • AS BARBARA BOXER SAID NOBODY IS PERFECT.

  • PERFECT. MY WORRY IS THAT BIDEN IS THE

  • MY WORRY IS THAT BIDEN IS THE GUY WHO’S GOING TO BEAT TRUMP

  • GUY WHO’S GOING TO BEAT TRUMP BECAUSE HE’S GOT SOME KIND OF

  • BECAUSE HE’S GOT SOME KIND OF MODERATE APPEAL WHEN THAT DIDN’T

  • MODERATE APPEAL WHEN THAT DIDN’T WORK IN 2016.

  • WORK IN 2016. HE’S GOT SO MUCH BAGGAGE AND

  • HE’S GOT SO MUCH BAGGAGE AND THIS IDEA THAT HE’S JUST GOT A

  • THIS IDEA THAT HE’S JUST GOT A STAMMER, HE SPENT MUCH OF

  • STAMMER, HE SPENT MUCH OF FEBRUARY FALSELY CLAIMING THAT

  • FEBRUARY FALSELY CLAIMING THAT HE GOT ARRESTED IN SOUTH AFRICA

  • HE GOT ARRESTED IN SOUTH AFRICA TRYING TO SEE NELSON MANDELA.

  • TRYING TO SEE NELSON MANDELA. YOURE GOING TO SEE ATTACK ADS

  • YOURE GOING TO SEE ATTACK ADS LIKE WEVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE AND

  • LIKE WEVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE AND HE MAY STILL WIN BUT I’D LIKE

  • HE MAY STILL WIN BUT I’D LIKE THE DEMOCRATS TO HOLD HIM TO

  • THE DEMOCRATS TO HOLD HIM TO SOME OF THAT STUFF NOW.

  • SOME OF THAT STUFF NOW. THERE’S ONE MORE DEBATE IN A

  • THERE’S ONE MORE DEBATE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR BERNIE.

  • COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR BERNIE. HE NEEDS THAT DEBATE NOW BECAUSE

  • HE NEEDS THAT DEBATE NOW BECAUSE I THINK BIDEN WOULD SUFFER

  • I THINK BIDEN WOULD SUFFER HUGELY IN A ONE-ON-ONE DEBATE

  • HUGELY IN A ONE-ON-ONE DEBATE WHERE HE CAN’T HIDE BEHIND OTHER

  • WHERE HE CAN’T HIDE BEHIND OTHER CANDIDATES.

  • CANDIDATES. I DON’T THINK HE CAN SURVIVE A

  • I DON’T THINK HE CAN SURVIVE A TWO-HOUR DEBATE WITH BERNIE

  • TWO-HOUR DEBATE WITH BERNIE ONE-ON-ONE.

  • ONE-ON-ONE. >> I AGREE THAT A ONE-ON-ONE

  • >> I AGREE THAT A ONE-ON-ONE DEBATE WOULD BE REALLY USEFUL

EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE. >> SENATOR BARBARA BOXER, THANK

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