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  • BIG BOARD. AND IN DETROIT AT THE SPIN ROOM

  • AND IN DETROIT AT THE SPIN ROOM CHRIS MATTHEWS, THE HOST OF

  • CHRIS MATTHEWS, THE HOST OF "HARDBALL."

  • "HARDBALL." CHRIS, I’D LIKE TO START WITH

  • CHRIS, I’D LIKE TO START WITH YOU BECAUSE HOME FIELD HAS ITS

  • YOU BECAUSE HOME FIELD HAS ITS ADVANTAGES.

  • ADVANTAGES. AS A NATIONAL DEMOCRAT SAID TO

  • AS A NATIONAL DEMOCRAT SAID TO ME AFTER WATCHING ALL THIS, "I

  • ME AFTER WATCHING ALL THIS, "I HOPE THEY KNOW WHAT THEYRE

  • HOPE THEY KNOW WHAT THEYRE DOING."

  • DOING." >> WELL, LAST NIGHT REMINDED ME

  • >> WELL, LAST NIGHT REMINDED ME OF BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE

  • OF BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID WITH ELIZABETH

  • SUNDANCE KID WITH ELIZABETH WARREN AND BERNIE SANDERS AS THE

  • WARREN AND BERNIE SANDERS AS THE TWO MAIN CHARACTERS FIGHTING OFF

  • TWO MAIN CHARACTERS FIGHTING OFF THE BOLIVIAN ARMY.

  • THE BOLIVIAN ARMY. TONIGHT IT WAS MORE LIKE

  • TONIGHT IT WAS MORE LIKE GULLIVER’S TRAVELS.

  • GULLIVER’S TRAVELS. I MEAN, THERE WAS VICE PRESIDENT

  • I MEAN, THERE WAS VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN TIED DOWN AFTER ROPE AFTER

  • BIDEN TIED DOWN AFTER ROPE AFTER ROPE FOR HIS LONG POLITICAL

  • ROPE FOR HIS LONG POLITICAL CAREER.

  • CAREER. HE HAD TO DEFEND EVERY ELEMENT

  • HE HAD TO DEFEND EVERY ELEMENT OF IT GOING BACK, AS MICHAEL

  • OF IT GOING BACK, AS MICHAEL BENNET SAID, 50 YEARS ON ISSUES

  • BENNET SAID, 50 YEARS ON ISSUES LIKE BUSING.

  • LIKE BUSING. IT WAS VERY HARD FOR HIM TO PLAY

  • IT WAS VERY HARD FOR HIM TO PLAY DEFENSE.

  • DEFENSE. BUT HE HAD A COUPLE OF ALLIES

  • BUT HE HAD A COUPLE OF ALLIES TONIGHT.

  • TONIGHT. I WAS SURPRISED.

  • I WAS SURPRISED. ON THE ISSUE OF OBAMACARE FOR

  • ON THE ISSUE OF OBAMACARE FOR ALL HE WAS JOINED ON THAT ON HIS

  • ALL HE WAS JOINED ON THAT ON HIS SIDE AGAINST IT BY MICHAEL

  • SIDE AGAINST IT BY MICHAEL BENNET AND BY TULSI GABBARD, WHO

  • BENNET AND BY TULSI GABBARD, WHO WERE VERY STRONG IN HIS DEFENSE.

  • WERE VERY STRONG IN HIS DEFENSE. AND ON THE ISSUE OF

  • AND ON THE ISSUE OF DECRIMINALIZING BORDER CROSSINGS

  • DECRIMINALIZING BORDER CROSSINGS FOR THE SOUTHERN BORDER HE HAD A

  • FOR THE SOUTHERN BORDER HE HAD A COUPLE OF DEFENDERS ON THAT

  • COUPLE OF DEFENDERS ON THAT ISSUE AS WELL.

  • ISSUE AS WELL. I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD

  • I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD DIVIDED FIGHT TONIGHT.

  • DIVIDED FIGHT TONIGHT. AND I THOUGHT LIKE LAST NIGHT

  • AND I THOUGHT LIKE LAST NIGHT THE ISSUES WERE BORDER,

  • THE ISSUES WERE BORDER, DECRIMINALIZATION OF ILLEGAL

  • DECRIMINALIZATION OF ILLEGAL ENTRY AND OF COURSE MEDICARE FOR

  • ENTRY AND OF COURSE MEDICARE FOR ALL.

  • ALL. THOSE ISSUES.

  • THOSE ISSUES. I THOUGHT THOSE WERE PARALLEL

  • I THOUGHT THOSE WERE PARALLEL TONIGHT.

  • TONIGHT. AND I THINK HE HAD SOME

  • AND I THINK HE HAD SOME SUPPORTERS.

  • SUPPORTERS. BUT TONIGHT IT WAS CLEAR THAT

  • BUT TONIGHT IT WAS CLEAR THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN HE WAS

  • OVER AND OVER AGAIN HE WAS PLAYING DEFENSE.

  • PLAYING DEFENSE. AND THE HARDEST THING FOR HIM TO

  • AND THE HARDEST THING FOR HIM TO DEFEND IN THE CURRENT CLIMATE

  • DEFEND IN THE CURRENT CLIMATE POLITICALLY WAS THE

  • POLITICALLY WAS THE DEPORTATIONS.

  • DEPORTATIONS. I THOUGHT HE WAS HIT VERY HARD

  • I THOUGHT HE WAS HIT VERY HARD ON, THAT ON THE QUESTION OF

  • ON, THAT ON THE QUESTION OF DOUBLE TALK BECAUSE HE SAID IT

  • DOUBLE TALK BECAUSE HE SAID IT WAS WRONG FOR HIS OPPONENTS --

  • WAS WRONG FOR HIS OPPONENTS -- FOR GILLIBRAND TO CHANGE HER

  • FOR GILLIBRAND TO CHANGE HER VOTE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION.

  • VOTE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION. AND RIGHT OUT OF NOWHERE HE GOT

  • AND RIGHT OUT OF NOWHERE HE GOT HIT ON THE FACT THAT HE WAS

  • HIT ON THE FACT THAT HE WAS CHANGING HIS VOTE ON THE HYDE

  • CHANGING HIS VOTE ON THE HYDE AMENDMENT, FOR EXAMPLE.

  • AMENDMENT, FOR EXAMPLE. SO HE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE COMING

  • SO HE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE COMING AT HIM FROM SO MANY DIRECTIONS I

  • AT HIM FROM SO MANY DIRECTIONS I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR

  • THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR HIM TO BE A SUCCESSFUL GOALIE

  • HIM TO BE A SUCCESSFUL GOALIE TONIGHT.

  • TONIGHT. AND I’M SURE -- BUT I WILL SAY

  • AND I’M SURE -- BUT I WILL SAY ONE THING.

  • ONE THING. HE WAS 100% BETTER BUT MAYBE

  • HE WAS 100% BETTER BUT MAYBE 200% BETTER THAN HE WAS IN THE

  • 200% BETTER THAN HE WAS IN THE FIRST DEBATE.

  • FIRST DEBATE. HE SEEMED TO BE AWARE HE WAS IN

  • HE SEEMED TO BE AWARE HE WAS IN A DEBATE, WHICH IS A START FOR

  • A DEBATE, WHICH IS A START FOR HIM.

  • HIM. AND I THOUGHT HE WAS RECITING A

  • AND I THOUGHT HE WAS RECITING A LOT OF STUFF.

  • LOT OF STUFF. IN FACT, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN HE

  • IN FACT, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN HE GOT TO THE END OF HIS TIME IT

  • GOT TO THE END OF HIS TIME IT WAS LIKE HE RAN OUT OF HIS

  • WAS LIKE HE RAN OUT OF HIS RECITATION RATHER THAN HIS

  • RECITATION RATHER THAN HIS THOUGHT.

  • THOUGHT. I DON’T THINK THAT LOOKED TOO

  • I DON’T THINK THAT LOOKED TOO GOOD.

  • GOOD. >> CHRIS, AS YOU KNOW, ALL OF

  • >> CHRIS, AS YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE TAKE ON THEIR OWN

  • THESE TAKE ON THEIR OWN CHARACTER.

  • CHARACTER. BY TOMORROW MORNING THESE EVENTS

  • BY TOMORROW MORNING THESE EVENTS HAVE A FUNNY WAY OF DEVELOPING

  • HAVE A FUNNY WAY OF DEVELOPING WITH A BOOST FROM SOCIAL MEDIA

  • WITH A BOOST FROM SOCIAL MEDIA THEIR OWN STORYLINE.

  • THEIR OWN STORYLINE. WE WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND

  • WE WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND WILLIAMSON WAS HAVING HER

  • WILLIAMSON WAS HAVING HER MOMENT.

  • MOMENT. AS WE GO TO BED TONIGHT, WHO DO

  • AS WE GO TO BED TONIGHT, WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO GET THAT

  • YOU THINK IS GOING TO GET THAT MOMENT AMONG THE NAMES THAT

  • MOMENT AMONG THE NAMES THAT DIDN’T COME UP IN OUR INITIAL

  • DIDN’T COME UP IN OUR INITIAL RUN-THROUGH?

  • RUN-THROUGH? IS IT AN INSLEE?

  • IS IT AN INSLEE? IS IT A YANG PERHAPS?

  • IS IT A YANG PERHAPS? O’.

  • O’. >> WELL, I THOUGHT CORY BOOKER

  • >> WELL, I THOUGHT CORY BOOKER HAD A PRETTY GOOD NIGHT.

  • HAD A PRETTY GOOD NIGHT. I THINK HE TOOK HIM ON.

  • I THINK HE TOOK HIM ON. I THOUGHT AS USUAL DE BLASIO,

  • I THOUGHT AS USUAL DE BLASIO, THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK, KEPT

  • THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK, KEPT TAKING THESE LONG SHOTS AT HIM.

  • TAKING THESE LONG SHOTS AT HIM. I DON’T THINK THEY WERE THAT

  • I DON’T THINK THEY WERE THAT EFFECTIVE.

  • EFFECTIVE. I THINK TONIGHT -- I’M NOT SURE

  • I THINK TONIGHT -- I’M NOT SURE THERE’S A BIG WINNER TONIGHT

  • THERE’S A BIG WINNER TONIGHT LIKE LAST NIGHT.

BIG BOARD. AND IN DETROIT AT THE SPIN ROOM

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