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  • DIFFERENT. BUT AGAIN, I STRESS, LET’S SEE

  • BUT AGAIN, I STRESS, LET’S SEE WHAT THE SUBSEQUENT KWACHLZWAVES

  • WHAT THE SUBSEQUENT KWACHLZWAVES >> VIEWERS IN THE LAST SEGMENT

  • >> VIEWERS IN THE LAST SEGMENT MAY HAVE HEARD BERNIE SURROGATE

  • MAY HAVE HEARD BERNIE SURROGATE CALL BLOOMBERG AN OLIGARCH TO

  • CALL BLOOMBERG AN OLIGARCH TO WHICH JASON TOOK EXCEPTION.

  • WHICH JASON TOOK EXCEPTION. STATE SENATOR TURNER FROM OHIO

  • STATE SENATOR TURNER FROM OHIO IS STILL LISTENING IN DES MOINES

  • IS STILL LISTENING IN DES MOINES BECAUSE SHE WANTED A MOMENT TO

  • BECAUSE SHE WANTED A MOMENT TO RESPOND.

  • RESPOND. NINA?

  • NINA? >> SENATOR.

  • >> SENATOR. >> THANK YOU.

  • >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

  • THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. IT’S IRONIC TO ME THAT SOMEBODY

  • IT’S IRONIC TO ME THAT SOMEBODY WOULD DEFEND THE WEALTHIEST

  • WOULD DEFEND THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY OVER THE

  • PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY OVER THE WORKING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.

  • WORKING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. WE NEED REAL CAMPAIGN FINANCE

  • WE NEED REAL CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM TO THE EXTENT THAT A

  • REFORM TO THE EXTENT THAT A MAYOR BLOOMBERG CAN TOTALLY

  • MAYOR BLOOMBERG CAN TOTALLY FINANCE HIS CAMPAIGN.

  • FINANCE HIS CAMPAIGN. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE

  • HE DOESN’T HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE PEOPLE.

  • PEOPLE. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO BUILD A

  • HE DOESN’T HAVE TO BUILD A MOVEMENT.

  • MOVEMENT. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO TALK TO

  • HE DOESN’T HAVE TO TALK TO PEOPLE.

  • PEOPLE. HE CAN BUY HIS WAY.

  • HE CAN BUY HIS WAY. IT IS THE SAME ATTITUDE THAT THE

  • IT IS THE SAME ATTITUDE THAT THE ELITES, MAYBE JASON LIKES THE

  • ELITES, MAYBE JASON LIKES THE WORD ELITE OVER OLIGARCH, BUT

  • WORD ELITE OVER OLIGARCH, BUT IT’S THE SAME ATTITUDE THE

  • IT’S THE SAME ATTITUDE THE ELITES HAD IN 1930 OVER F.D.R.

  • ELITES HAD IN 1930 OVER F.D.R. ALL OF THEM LINED UP AGAINST

  • ALL OF THEM LINED UP AGAINST THEM.

  • THEM. HE SAID, I WELCOME YOUR HATRED

  • HE SAID, I WELCOME YOUR HATRED BECAUSE HE WAS STANDING UP FOR

  • BECAUSE HE WAS STANDING UP FOR THE PEOPLE.

  • THE PEOPLE. THAT IS THE SAME MESSAGE BERNIE

  • THAT IS THE SAME MESSAGE BERNIE SANDERS HAS TO THE EVERYDAY

  • SANDERS HAS TO THE EVERYDAY PEOPLE OF THIS NATION, THAT I

  • PEOPLE OF THIS NATION, THAT I WELCOME THE HATRED OF THE ELITES

  • WELCOME THE HATRED OF THE ELITES BECAUSE I AM STANDING UP FOR

  • BECAUSE I AM STANDING UP FOR YOU.

  • YOU. CALL ME A WHIFFER FOR THE

  • CALL ME A WHIFFER FOR THE WEALTHY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.

  • WEALTHY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> YOU WORK FOR A CANDIDATE OF

  • >> YOU WORK FOR A CANDIDATE OF THE 1%.

  • THE 1%. I HAVE NO PROBLEM CRITICIZING

  • I HAVE NO PROBLEM CRITICIZING THE SYSTEM.

  • THE SYSTEM. THE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS MIKE

  • THE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS MIKE BLOOMBERG TO MAKE THE MONEY HE

  • BLOOMBERG TO MAKE THE MONEY HE MAKES, BUY WHAT HE WANTS TO BUY,

  • MAKES, BUY WHAT HE WANTS TO BUY, BUY HIMSELF INTO THE DEBATES IS

  • BUY HIMSELF INTO THE DEBATES IS A PROBLEM.

  • A PROBLEM. BUT TO CALL HIM AN OLIGARCH IS A

  • BUT TO CALL HIM AN OLIGARCH IS A MISNOMER IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.

  • MISNOMER IN THIS ENVIRONMENT. YOURE WORKING FOR SOMEBODY

  • YOURE WORKING FOR SOMEBODY THAT’S PART OF THE 1%.

  • THAT’S PART OF THE 1%. DO YOU CALL HIM AN OLIGARCH?

  • DO YOU CALL HIM AN OLIGARCH? NO, YOU DON’T.

  • NO, YOU DON’T. YOU SAY HE’S A RICH GUY.

  • YOU SAY HE’S A RICH GUY. >> HE JUST GOT THERE AT THIS

  • >> HE JUST GOT THERE AT THIS LATE AGE.

  • LATE AGE. >> IF YOU WANT TO USE THE TERM

  • >> IF YOU WANT TO USE THE TERM SHALL -- USE WHATEVER TERM YOU

  • SHALL -- USE WHATEVER TERM YOU WANT TO USE.

  • WANT TO USE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ENEMY

  • AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ENEMY OF THIS COUNTRY, THE ENEMY OF

  • OF THIS COUNTRY, THE ENEMY OF THE POOR IS NOT JUST EVERYONE

  • THE POOR IS NOT JUST EVERYONE WHO HAPPENS TO BE RICH.

  • WHO HAPPENS TO BE RICH. IT IS A CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM THAT

  • IT IS A CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM THAT ABUSES PEOPLE.

  • ABUSES PEOPLE. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT,

  • IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, THAT’S FINE.

  • THAT’S FINE. BUT IF YOU WANT TO NAME CALL

  • BUT IF YOU WANT TO NAME CALL PEOPLE THAT’S NOT GOING TO HELP

  • PEOPLE THAT’S NOT GOING TO HELP BERNIE IF HE BECOMES THE

  • BERNIE IF HE BECOMES THE NOMINEE.

  • NOMINEE. >> WHO IS NAME CALLING?

  • >> WHO IS NAME CALLING? I’M NOT NAME CALLING ANYBODY.

  • I’M NOT NAME CALLING ANYBODY. I’M A LAYING IT OUT THE WAY I

  • I’M A LAYING IT OUT THE WAY I SEE IT.

  • SEE IT. >> THIS IS ALL I’M TALKING

  • >> THIS IS ALL I’M TALKING ABOUT.

  • ABOUT. >> YOURE DEFENDING SOMEBODY

  • >> YOURE DEFENDING SOMEBODY DEFYING HIS WAY THROUGH

  • DEFYING HIS WAY THROUGH DEMOCRACY.

  • DEMOCRACY. YES, YOU ARE DEFENDING HIM.

  • YES, YOU ARE DEFENDING HIM. >> THAT’S HOW YOU GUYS OPERATE.

  • >> THAT’S HOW YOU GUYS OPERATE. WHEN IT COMES TO CAMPAIGNING IT

  • WHEN IT COMES TO CAMPAIGNING IT MAKES SENSE TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE

  • MAKES SENSE TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE FOR THE POSITIONS THEY HAVE.

  • FOR THE POSITIONS THEY HAVE. >> IS THIS ABOUT A WORD, JASON?

  • >> IS THIS ABOUT A WORD, JASON? IS THIS ABOUT A WORD?

  • IS THIS ABOUT A WORD? >> NO, IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT A

  • >> NO, IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT A WORD, IT’S THE IMPLICATIONS OF

  • WORD, IT’S THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT.

  • IT. IT’S WHEN CRITICIZING THE SYSTEM

  • IT’S WHEN CRITICIZING THE SYSTEM VERSUS CRITICIZING INDIVIDUALS.

  • VERSUS CRITICIZING INDIVIDUALS. HE HAPPENS TO BE PART OF THE 1%.

  • HE HAPPENS TO BE PART OF THE 1%. I WOULD SAY HE’S SOMEBODY WHO IS

  • I WOULD SAY HE’S SOMEBODY WHO IS WEALTHY.

  • WEALTHY. BUT HE’S DEDICATED HIM --

  • BUT HE’S DEDICATED HIM -- LET ME SAY -- BECAUSE I DO LIKE

  • LET ME SAY -- BECAUSE I DO LIKE THIS DEBATE BECAUSE IT’S A

  • THIS DEBATE BECAUSE IT’S A DEBATE, I LIKE DEBATES.

  • DEBATE, I LIKE DEBATES. NUMBER TWO, DO YOU WANT TO

  • NUMBER TWO, DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR WORD FOR OLIGARCH?

  • CHANGE YOUR WORD FOR OLIGARCH? >> NO, HE DOESN’T TELL ME WHAT

  • >> NO, HE DOESN’T TELL ME WHAT TO SAY, MY WORD STANDS.

  • TO SAY, MY WORD STANDS. >> THAT’S THE DECISIVE

  • >> THAT’S THE DECISIVE CONCLUSION OF THIS BACK AND

  • CONCLUSION OF THIS BACK AND FORTH.

  • FORTH. >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING?

  • >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING? JASON JOHNSON IS A FREQUENT

  • JASON JOHNSON IS A FREQUENT GUEST ON MY SHOW.

  • GUEST ON MY SHOW. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY

  • I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT DEBATE AND I’M REALLY

  • IMPORTANT DEBATE AND I’M REALLY GLAD YOU DIDN’T LET IT GET

  • GLAD YOU DIDN’T LET IT GET BOILED DOWN TO THE USE OF A

  • BOILED DOWN TO THE USE OF A WORD.

  • WORD. IT IS NOT ABOUT A WORD.

  • IT IS NOT ABOUT A WORD. HERE’S THE OTHER -- AND I

  • HERE’S THE OTHER -- AND I UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT VIEWS ABOUT

  • UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT VIEWS ABOUT THE SYSTEM.

  • THE SYSTEM. THE ENEMY IS THE GUY IN THE OVAL

  • THE ENEMY IS THE GUY IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHO THINKS THERE ARE GOOD

  • OFFICE WHO THINKS THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES IN

  • PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.

  • CHARLOTTESVILLE. THE ENEMY IS THE GUY IN THE OVAL

  • THE ENEMY IS THE GUY IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHO GOT A PERMISSION SLIP

  • OFFICE WHO GOT A PERMISSION SLIP TO CHEAT IN PRESIDENTIAL

  • TO CHEAT IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.

  • ELECTIONS. THE ENEMY IS A GUY WHO CALLS HIS

  • THE ENEMY IS A GUY WHO CALLS HIS GENERALS DOPES AND LOSERS.

  • GENERALS DOPES AND LOSERS. I AM NAUSEOUS WHEN I SEE

  • I AM NAUSEOUS WHEN I SEE DEMOCRATS FIGHT AMONGST

  • DEMOCRATS FIGHT AMONGST THEMSELVES.

  • THEMSELVES. I KNOW THAT REPUBLICANS GET NO

  • I KNOW THAT REPUBLICANS GET NO SAY -- I’VE SAID I’LL VOTE -- IF

  • SAY -- I’VE SAID I’LL VOTE -- IF YOU PICK AN AUTOMOBILE, I WILL

  • YOU PICK AN AUTOMOBILE, I WILL VOTE FOR IT.

  • VOTE FOR IT. I FEEL SO WARY WHEN I SEE THESE

  • I FEEL SO WARY WHEN I SEE THESE REALLY, REALLY INTENSE FIGHTS

  • REALLY, REALLY INTENSE FIGHTS AROUND SOMEONE TRYING TO HELP

  • AROUND SOMEONE TRYING TO HELP Y’ALL WIN.

  • Y’ALL WIN. >> MY THING IS THIS.

  • >> MY THING IS THIS. LIKE I SAID, I AM AN AMERICAN

  • LIKE I SAID, I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

  • CITIZEN. I HAVE NO PARTICULAR LOYALTY TO

  • I HAVE NO PARTICULAR LOYALTY TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OR ANY

  • THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OR ANY OTHER PARTY LIKE THAT.

  • OTHER PARTY LIKE THAT. BUT WHAT I DO THINK IS THIS.

  • BUT WHAT I DO THINK IS THIS. IF YOURE TRYING TO BUILD A

  • IF YOURE TRYING TO BUILD A COALITION TO GET DONALD TRUMP

  • COALITION TO GET DONALD TRUMP OUT OF OFFICE, THIS SORT OF CUTE

  • OUT OF OFFICE, THIS SORT OF CUTE RED MEAT STUFF IS FINE ON

  • RED MEAT STUFF IS FINE ON TWITTER.

  • TWITTER. BUT IT’S NOT HOW YOURE IS

  • BUT IT’S NOT HOW YOURE IS BEINGLY SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING

  • BEINGLY SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING A CAMPAIGN.

  • A CAMPAIGN. FIGHT BLOOMBERG ON THE ISSUES.

  • FIGHT BLOOMBERG ON THE ISSUES. TALK ABOUT STOP AND FRISK.

  • TALK ABOUT STOP AND FRISK. TALK ABOUT HOW THEY HAD TO SIGN

  • TALK ABOUT HOW THEY HAD TO SIGN AN NDA SO THEY CAN’T TALK ABOUT

  • AN NDA SO THEY CAN’T TALK ABOUT THINGS HE’S DONE.

  • THINGS HE’S DONE. THAT IS FAIR AND REASONABLE.

  • THAT IS FAIR AND REASONABLE. BUT WHEN YOU REDUCE THIS TO NAME

  • BUT WHEN YOU REDUCE THIS TO NAME CALLING INSTEAD OF POLICY,

  • CALLING INSTEAD OF POLICY, YOURE DOING THE EXACT THING

  • YOURE DOING THE EXACT THING BERNIE SUPPORTERS COMPLAIN

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