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  • >>> TIME NOW FOR A VERY SPECIAL

  • >>> TIME NOW FOR A VERY SPECIAL EDITION OF "FALLBACK."

  • EDITION OF "FALLBACK." WE ARE JOINED BY TWO LEGENDS.

  • WE ARE JOINED BY TWO LEGENDS. FIRST MUSIC ICON DEBBIE HARRY, A

  • FIRST MUSIC ICON DEBBIE HARRY, A ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAMER,

  • ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAMER, LEAD SINGER OF COURSE THE

  • LEAD SINGER OF COURSE THE GROUNDBREAKING BAND BLONDIE

  • GROUNDBREAKING BAND BLONDIE KNOWN FOR HITS LIKE "CALL ME,"

  • KNOWN FOR HITS LIKE "CALL ME," "HEART OF GLASS" AND "RAPT

  • "HEART OF GLASS" AND "RAPT YOOUR," A 1980 HIT THAT THE

  • YOOUR," A 1980 HIT THAT THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" NOTES WAS

  • "WALL STREET JOURNAL" NOTES WAS THE FIRST MAJOR HIP-HOP HIT TO

  • THE FIRST MAJOR HIP-HOP HIT TO NOT USE SAMPLES.

  • NOT USE SAMPLES. SHE HAS SOLD OVER 40 MILLION

  • SHE HAS SOLD OVER 40 MILLION ALBUMS WORLDWIDE.

  • ALBUMS WORLDWIDE. AND HER NEW MEMOIR IS "FACE IT."

  • AND HER NEW MEMOIR IS "FACE IT." AND TONIGHT SHE IS PAIRED WITH A

  • AND TONIGHT SHE IS PAIRED WITH A GIANT OF JOURNALISM MAKING HIS

  • GIANT OF JOURNALISM MAKING HIS FALLBACK DEBUT, CHRIS MATTHEWS,

  • FALLBACK DEBUT, CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST OF THE LONGEST-RUNNING SHOW

  • HOST OF THE LONGEST-RUNNING SHOW ON MSNBC, "HARDBALL," AUTHOR OF

  • ON MSNBC, "HARDBALL," AUTHOR OF SIX BEST-SELLING BOOKS, VETERAN

  • SIX BEST-SELLING BOOKS, VETERAN OF THE CARTER WHITE HOUSE.

  • OF THE CARTER WHITE HOUSE. EVERY CHIEF EXECUTIVE FROM

  • EVERY CHIEF EXECUTIVE FROM CANDIDATES BUSH, CLINTON, FORD-O

  • CANDIDATES BUSH, CLINTON, FORD-O BAMA, HAS BEEN IN THE MIDDLE OF

  • BAMA, HAS BEEN IN THE MIDDLE OF SOME MEMORABLE LINES OF

  • SOME MEMORABLE LINES OF QUESTIONING IN AMERICAN

  • QUESTIONING IN AMERICAN POLITICS.

  • POLITICS. >> IF YOURE GOING TO ASK A

  • >> IF YOURE GOING TO ASK A QUESTION --

  • QUESTION -- >> WELL, LISTEN -- IT TAKES A

  • >> WELL, LISTEN -- IT TAKES A FEW WORDS.

  • FEW WORDS. >> GET OUT OF MY FACE.

  • >> GET OUT OF MY FACE. >> IF YOURE GOING TO ASK ME A

  • >> IF YOURE GOING TO ASK ME A QUESTION, STEP BACK AND LET ME

  • QUESTION, STEP BACK AND LET ME ANSWER IT.

  • ANSWER IT. >> SENATOR --

  • >> SENATOR -- >> YOU KNOW, I WISH WE LIVED IN

  • >> YOU KNOW, I WISH WE LIVED IN THE DAY WHERE YOU COULD

  • THE DAY WHERE YOU COULD CHALLENGE A PERSON TO A DUEL.

  • CHALLENGE A PERSON TO A DUEL. >> SO GREAT TO HAVE YOU

  • >> SO GREAT TO HAVE YOU TOGETHER.

  • TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU.

  • >> THANK YOU. >> I LOVE IT.

  • >> I LOVE IT. CHRIS, WHAT IN AMERICAN LIFE,

  • CHRIS, WHAT IN AMERICAN LIFE, BIG PICTURE, AND POLITICS NEEDS

  • BIG PICTURE, AND POLITICS NEEDS TO FALL BACK?

  • TO FALL BACK? >> WE WATCH OUR NETWORK ALL DAY,

  • >> WE WATCH OUR NETWORK ALL DAY, AND I LEARN A LOT FROM OUR

  • AND I LEARN A LOT FROM OUR NETWORK.

  • NETWORK. BUT ONE THING I LEARNED FROM

  • BUT ONE THING I LEARNED FROM THESE POLITICIANS, DEMOCRAT AND

  • THESE POLITICIANS, DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, LEFT AND RIGHT, IS

  • REPUBLICAN, LEFT AND RIGHT, IS THEY ALL PLAY THE SAME GAME OF

  • THEY ALL PLAY THE SAME GAME OF HALF TRUTHS.

  • HALF TRUTHS. DURING THE FIGHT OVER

  • DURING THE FIGHT OVER IMPEACHMENT THEY’D SAY, WELL,

  • IMPEACHMENT THEY’D SAY, WELL, THEY EVENTUALLY GOT THE MONEY.

  • THEY EVENTUALLY GOT THE MONEY. UKRAINE GOT THE MONEY.

  • UKRAINE GOT THE MONEY. THAT’S THE HALF TRUTH.

  • THAT’S THE HALF TRUTH. THEY DID EVENTUALLY GET THE

  • THEY DID EVENTUALLY GET THE MONEY.

  • MONEY. FULL TRUTH, THEY GOT CAUGHT.

  • FULL TRUTH, THEY GOT CAUGHT. THE ADMINISTRATION GOT CAUGHT

  • THE ADMINISTRATION GOT CAUGHT AND HAD TO GIVE THEM THE MONEY.

  • AND HAD TO GIVE THEM THE MONEY. BOTH SIDES PLAYED THIS GAME.

  • BOTH SIDES PLAYED THIS GAME. THE DEMOCRATS WILL SAY THINGS

  • THE DEMOCRATS WILL SAY THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WEVE GOT

  • LIKE, YOU KNOW, WEVE GOT INHERENT POWER TO SUBPOENA

  • INHERENT POWER TO SUBPOENA PEOPLE.

  • PEOPLE. WE CAN SEND THE SERGEANT AT ARMS

  • WE CAN SEND THE SERGEANT AT ARMS OUT AND GRAB ANYBODY WE WANTED.

  • OUT AND GRAB ANYBODY WE WANTED. NO, YOU CAN’T.

  • NO, YOU CAN’T. IT MAY BE WRITTEN SOMEWHERE BUT

  • IT MAY BE WRITTEN SOMEWHERE BUT YOU CAN’T DO SOMETHING LIKE

  • YOU CAN’T DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

  • THAT. SO STOP SAYING IT.

  • SO STOP SAYING IT. >> WHAT’S ON YOUR MIND IF

  • >> WHAT’S ON YOUR MIND IF ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO FALL

  • ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO FALL BACK?

  • BACK? >> I’M NOT SURE WHAT FALL BACK

  • >> I’M NOT SURE WHAT FALL BACK MEANS.

  • MEANS. DOES THAT MEAN SURRENDER OR GIVE

  • DOES THAT MEAN SURRENDER OR GIVE UP OR JUST -- RECONVENE WITHIN

  • UP OR JUST -- RECONVENE WITHIN YOURSELF?

  • YOURSELF? >> I’M GLAD YOU ASKED.

  • >> I’M GLAD YOU ASKED. YOU KNOW WHO’S AN EXPERT ON

  • YOU KNOW WHO’S AN EXPERT ON THIS?

  • THIS? CHRIS MATTHEWS.

  • CHRIS MATTHEWS. >> IT MEANS STOP IT.

  • >> IT MEANS STOP IT. IT’S NOT WORKING.

  • IT’S NOT WORKING. >> OKAY.

  • >> OKAY. FALL BACK AND RE-EXAMINE.

  • FALL BACK AND RE-EXAMINE. OKAY.

  • OKAY. >> I’LL GIVE YOU ONE OF MINE.

  • >> I’LL GIVE YOU ONE OF MINE. PEOPLE OUT TO DINNER TOGETHER ON

  • PEOPLE OUT TO DINNER TOGETHER ON THEIR PHONES.

  • THEIR PHONES. >> I HATE IT.

  • >> I HATE IT. >> I THINK THAT NEEDS TO FALL

  • >> I THINK THAT NEEDS TO FALL BACK.

  • BACK. >> WHOLE FAMILY, FOUR PEOPLE,

  • >> WHOLE FAMILY, FOUR PEOPLE, ALL WITH THEIR OWN PHONES.

  • ALL WITH THEIR OWN PHONES. ALL TALKING --

  • ALL TALKING -- >> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SUCH A

  • >> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SUCH A THING?

  • THING? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

  • >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT’S WHEN I KNOW THE

  • AND THAT’S WHEN I KNOW THE PARTY’S OVER, WHEN THE PHONE

  • PARTY’S OVER, WHEN THE PHONE COMES OUT.

  • COMES OUT. SAY OH, WELL, THAT’S IT.

  • SAY OH, WELL, THAT’S IT. >> AND IF I MAY, MY

  • >> AND IF I MAY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU KNOW HOW TO

  • UNDERSTANDING IS YOU KNOW HOW TO PARTY.

  • PARTY. NOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING THINGS ARE

  • NOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING THINGS ARE WAVY.

  • WAVY. HAVE YOU HEARD THIS?

  • HAVE YOU HEARD THIS? >> MM.

  • >> MM. >> WAVY IS GOOD.

  • >> WAVY IS GOOD. >> THAT’S GOOD?

  • >> THAT’S GOOD? >> WAVY’S GOOD.

  • >> WAVY’S GOOD. YEAH.

  • YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT SLANG WORD HAS

  • YOU KNOW WHAT SLANG WORD HAS REALLY SURVIVED?

  • REALLY SURVIVED? >> YEAH.

  • >> YEAH. >> COOL.

  • >> COOL. DIDN’T PEOPLE SAY COOL IN THE

  • DIDN’T PEOPLE SAY COOL IN THE ’70s?

  • ’70s? >> YEAH.

  • >> YEAH. >> AND THE ’80s.

  • >> AND THE ’80s. WE STILL SAY COOL.

  • WE STILL SAY COOL. >> BUT NEAT DIDN’T MAKE IT.

  • >> BUT NEAT DIDN’T MAKE IT. >> NEAT DID NOT MAKE IT.

  • >> NEAT DID NOT MAKE IT. NO.

  • NO. >> DO YOU THINK NEAT WILL BE

  • >> DO YOU THINK NEAT WILL BE BACK?

  • BACK? I KEEP THINKING ABOUT COOL.

  • I KEEP THINKING ABOUT COOL. OBAMA WAS COOL.

  • OBAMA WAS COOL. SINATRA WAS COOL.

  • SINATRA WAS COOL. I THINK WE KNOW WHAT COOL MEANS.

  • I THINK WE KNOW WHAT COOL MEANS. LIKE YOURE UNRUFFLED.

  • LIKE YOURE UNRUFFLED. YOU GO THROUGH ANYTHING.

  • YOU GO THROUGH ANYTHING. YOU DON’T GET RATTLED.

  • YOU DON’T GET RATTLED. YOURE LIKE COOL IN EVERY KIND

  • YOURE LIKE COOL IN EVERY KIND OF WAY.

  • OF WAY. >> SO DEBBIE, THIS IS GOOD.

  • >> SO DEBBIE, THIS IS GOOD. DID YOU THINK OF YOURSELF AS

  • DID YOU THINK OF YOURSELF AS COOL WHEN YOU WERE DOING THIS

  • COOL WHEN YOU WERE DOING THIS PUNK STUFF, NEW RORKSCK, HIP-HOP

  • PUNK STUFF, NEW RORKSCK, HIP-HOP OR YOU WERE JUST DOING YOUR

  • OR YOU WERE JUST DOING YOUR THING, YOU DIDN’T CARE IF IT WAS

  • THING, YOU DIDN’T CARE IF IT WAS COOL?

  • COOL? >> WELL, I LIKED COOL BECAUSE I

  • >> WELL, I LIKED COOL BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE A BEATNIK.

  • WANTED TO BE A BEATNIK. >> OKAY.

  • >> OKAY. >> SO I SORT OF KNEW I ASPIRED

  • >> SO I SORT OF KNEW I ASPIRED TO COOL.

  • TO COOL. >> WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO

  • >> WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO YOUNG PEOPLE?

  • YOUNG PEOPLE? >> OH, GOD.

  • >> OH, GOD. I THINK BASICALLY, YOU KNOW,

  • I THINK BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST BE COMMITTED TO WHAT YOU

  • JUST BE COMMITTED TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

  • WANT TO DO. AND LIKE YOU SAY, HOLD ON TO

  • AND LIKE YOU SAY, HOLD ON TO YOURSELF.

  • YOURSELF. IT’S COMPLICATED.

  • IT’S COMPLICATED. BUT IF YOU HAVE YOUR CORE OF

  • BUT IF YOU HAVE YOUR CORE OF YOUR CREATIVITY, WHICH IS WHAT I

  • YOUR CREATIVITY, WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE TO RELY ON, THAT’S REALLY

  • HAVE TO RELY ON, THAT’S REALLY WHERE IT COUNTS.

  • WHERE IT COUNTS. >> YOU KNOW, WHEN JOHN HUSTON,

  • >> YOU KNOW, WHEN JOHN HUSTON, THE GREAT DIRECTOR, WAS OLD AND

  • THE GREAT DIRECTOR, WAS OLD AND HE HAD -- HE’S GOT AN OXYGEN

  • HE HAD -- HE’S GOT AN OXYGEN MASK ON AND HE WAS ON DICK

  • MASK ON AND HE WAS ON DICK CAVETT ONE NIGHT, WHICH WAS VERY

  • CAVETT ONE NIGHT, WHICH WAS VERY POPULAR.

  • POPULAR. AND CAVETT SAID TO HIM, WHAT

  • AND CAVETT SAID TO HIM, WHAT KEEPS YOU GOING?

  • KEEPS YOU GOING? AND HE SAID, INTEREST.

  • AND HE SAID, INTEREST. THAT WAS THE BEST LINE I’VE EVER

  • THAT WAS THE BEST LINE I’VE EVER HEARD.

  • HEARD. I’M INTERESTED.

  • I’M INTERESTED. I THINK INTEREST IS EVERYTHING.

  • I THINK INTEREST IS EVERYTHING. AND YOU CAN’T FAKE IT.

  • AND YOU CAN’T FAKE IT. YOURE EITHER INTERESTED OR NOT.

  • YOURE EITHER INTERESTED OR NOT. IN THE PERSON, INTERESTED IN THE

  • IN THE PERSON, INTERESTED IN THE PERSON.

  • PERSON. OR YOURE NOT.

  • OR YOURE NOT. YOU CAN’T FAKE THAT.

  • YOU CAN’T FAKE THAT. YOU CANNOT PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT

  • YOU CANNOT PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT A TOPIC.

  • A TOPIC. I’M GIFTED THAT I’VE ALWAYS BEEN

  • I’M GIFTED THAT I’VE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN POLITICS.

  • INTERESTED IN POLITICS. >> SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

  • >> SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DEEPLY INTERESTED IN OTHERS ARE

  • DEEPLY INTERESTED IN OTHERS ARE ALSO THE MOST INTERESTING TO

  • ALSO THE MOST INTERESTING TO LEARN FROM.

  • LEARN FROM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

  • THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

  • HERE. >> OH, THANK YOU.

  • >> OH, THANK YOU. >> YOU CAN TELL I’M WRAPPING IT

  • >> YOU CAN TELL I’M WRAPPING IT UP.

  • UP. >> THANK YOU.

  • >> THANK YOU. >> CHRIS MATTHEWS --

  • >> CHRIS MATTHEWS -- >> YOURE A GREAT LEAD-IN AS WE

  • >> YOURE A GREAT LEAD-IN AS WE SAY IN OUR BUSINESS.

  • SAY IN OUR BUSINESS. LOVE YOUR LEAD-IN.

  • LOVE YOUR LEAD-IN. HE’S RIGHT BEFORE ME.

  • HE’S RIGHT BEFORE ME. >> AND HE MIGHT BE WORKING ON A

  • >> AND HE MIGHT BE WORKING ON A MEMOIR TOO.

  • MEMOIR TOO. SO HE CAN GET TIPS FROM YOU.

>>> TIME NOW FOR A VERY SPECIAL

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