THINK PERSONALITY HAS IT IN CALIFORNIA.

CALIFORNIA. THIS IS A RACE IN WHICH BERNIE

THIS IS A RACE IN WHICH BERNIE IS THE LEADER.

IS THE LEADER. >> I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES

>> I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES BERNIE IS LEADING, BUT THAT

BERNIE IS LEADING, BUT THAT MOMENTUM SLOWED DOWN LAST NIGHT

MOMENTUM SLOWED DOWN LAST NIGHT AND JOE BIDEN --

AND JOE BIDEN -- >> HE WAS RIGHT THERE.

>> HE WAS RIGHT THERE. >> -- WAS THERE WHEN HE NEEDED

>> -- WAS THERE WHEN HE NEEDED TO BE.

TO BE. >> YES, HE WAS.

>> YES, HE WAS. HE CAME TO PLAY.

HE CAME TO PLAY. >> HE IS DOWN TO HIS LAST CARD

>> HE IS DOWN TO HIS LAST CARD OR TWO AND SO, YEAH, HE HAS TO

OR TWO AND SO, YEAH, HE HAS TO HAVE A BIG WIN IN SOUTH CAROLINA

HAVE A BIG WIN IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND HAS TO PROPEL HIM FORWARD IF

AND HAS TO PROPEL HIM FORWARD IF HE HAS ANY CHANCE TO CHALLENGE

HE HAS ANY CHANCE TO CHALLENGE SAND SNEERS BEFORE SHE FELL BACK

SAND SNEERS BEFORE SHE FELL BACK INTO FOCUSING SOLELY ON MIKE

INTO FOCUSING SOLELY ON MIKE BLOOMBERG ELIZABETH WARREN BEGAN

BLOOMBERG ELIZABETH WARREN BEGAN HER NIGHT WITH A DIRECT

HER NIGHT WITH A DIRECT CHALLENGE TO BERNIE SANDERS OVER

CHALLENGE TO BERNIE SANDERS OVER WHO IS BEST TO CARRY THE

WHO IS BEST TO CARRY THE PROGRESSIVE MANTEL INTO THE

PROGRESSIVE MANTEL INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.

WHITE HOUSE. FROM THERE OTHER CANDIDATES

FROM THERE OTHER CANDIDATES JUMPED IN TO TAKE ON SANDERS ON

JUMPED IN TO TAKE ON SANDERS ON RUSSIA, ELECTABILITY AND GUNS.

RUSSIA, ELECTABILITY AND GUNS. >> BERNIE AND I AGREE ON A LOT

>> BERNIE AND I AGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I THINK I WOULD

OF THINGS, BUT I THINK I WOULD MAKE A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN

MAKE A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN BERNIE AND THE REASON FOR THAT

BERNIE AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT GETTING A PROGRESSIVE

IS THAT GETTING A PROGRESSIVE AGENDA ENACTED IS GOING TO BE

AGENDA ENACTED IS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD AND IT'S GOING TO

REALLY HARD AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMEONE WHO DIGS INTO THE

TAKE SOMEONE WHO DIGS INTO THE DETAILS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

DETAILS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. BERNIE AND I BOTH WANTED TO HELP

BERNIE AND I BOTH WANTED TO HELP REIN IN WALL STREET.

REIN IN WALL STREET. IN 2008 WE BOTH GOT OUR CHANCE,

IN 2008 WE BOTH GOT OUR CHANCE, BUT I DUG IN, I FOUGHT THE BIG

BUT I DUG IN, I FOUGHT THE BIG BANKS, I BUILT THE COALITIONS

BANKS, I BUILT THE COALITIONS AND I WON.

AND I WON. BERNIE AND I BOTH WANT TO SEE

BERNIE AND I BOTH WANT TO SEE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, BUT

UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, BUT BERNIE'S PLAN DOESN'T EXPLAIN

BERNIE'S PLAN DOESN'T EXPLAIN HOW TO GET THERE, DOESN'T SHOW

HOW TO GET THERE, DOESN'T SHOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET ENOUGH

HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET ENOUGH ALLIES INTO IT AND DOESN'T SHOW

ALLIES INTO IT AND DOESN'T SHOW ENOUGH ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO

ENOUGH ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

PAY FOR IT. I DUG IN, I DID THE WORK AND

I DUG IN, I DID THE WORK AND THEN BERNIE'S TEAM TRASHED ME

THEN BERNIE'S TEAM TRASHED ME FOR IT.

FOR IT. PROGRESSIVES HAVE GOT ONE SHOT

PROGRESSIVES HAVE GOT ONE SHOT AND WE NEED TO SPEND IT WITH A

AND WE NEED TO SPEND IT WITH A LEADER WHO WILL GET SOMETHING

LEADER WHO WILL GET SOMETHING DONE.

DONE. >> VLADIMIR PUTIN THINKS THAT

>> VLADIMIR PUTIN THINKS THAT DONALD TRUMP SHOULD BE PRESIDENT

DONALD TRUMP SHOULD BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THAT'S

OF THE UNITED STATES AND THAT'S WHY RUSSIA IS HELPING YOU GET

WHY RUSSIA IS HELPING YOU GET ELECTED SO YOU WILL LOSE TO HAD

ELECTED SO YOU WILL LOSE TO HAD I'M.

I'M. >> LET ME TELL MR. PUTIN WHO

>> LET ME TELL MR. PUTIN WHO INTERFERED IN THE 2016 ELECTION,

INTERFERED IN THE 2016 ELECTION, TRY TO BRING AMERICANS AGAINST

TRY TO BRING AMERICANS AGAINST AMERICANS, HEY, MR. PUTIN, IF

AMERICANS, HEY, MR. PUTIN, IF I'M PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

I'M PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TRUST ME YOU ARE NOT

STATES TRUST ME YOU ARE NOT GOING TO INTERFERE IN ANY MORE

GOING TO INTERFERE IN ANY MORE AMERICAN ELECTIONES.

AMERICAN ELECTIONES. >> TELL YOU WHAT THE RUSSIANS

>> TELL YOU WHAT THE RUSSIANS WANT, THEY DON'T HAVE A

WANT, THEY DON'T HAVE A POLITICAL PARTY, THEY WANT CHAOS

POLITICAL PARTY, THEY WANT CHAOS AND CHAOS IS WHAT IS COMING OUR

AND CHAOS IS WHAT IS COMING OUR WAY.

WAY. I MEAN, LOOK, IF YOU THINK THE

I MEAN, LOOK, IF YOU THINK THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAS BEEN

LAST FOUR YEARS HAS BEEN CHAOTIC, DIVISIVE, TOXIC,

CHAOTIC, DIVISIVE, TOXIC, EXHAUSTING, IMAGINE SPENDING THE

EXHAUSTING, IMAGINE SPENDING THE BETTER PART OF 2020 WITH BERNIE

BETTER PART OF 2020 WITH BERNIE SANDERS VERSUS DONALD TRUMP.

SANDERS VERSUS DONALD TRUMP. >> YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT

>> YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT PROGRESSIVE.

PROGRESSIVE. LET'S TALK ABOUT BEING

LET'S TALK ABOUT BEING PROGRESSIVE.

PROGRESSIVE. WALKING DISTANCE HERE MOTHER

WALKING DISTANCE HERE MOTHER EMANUEL CHURCH, NINE PEOPLE SHOT

EMANUEL CHURCH, NINE PEOPLE SHOT DEAD BY A WHITE SUPREMACIST.

DEAD BY A WHITE SUPREMACIST. BERNIE VOTED FIVE TIMES AGAINST

BERNIE VOTED FIVE TIMES AGAINST THE BRADY BILL AND WANTED A

THE BRADY BILL AND WANTED A WAITING PERIOD -- NO, LET ME

WAITING PERIOD -- NO, LET ME FINISH -- AND WAITED -- AND

FINISH -- AND WAITED -- AND WAITED -- A WAITING PERIOD OF 12

WAITED -- A WAITING PERIOD OF 12 HOURS.

HOURS. I'M NOT SAYING HE'S RESPONSIBLE

I'M NOT SAYING HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NINE DEATHS BUT THAT MAN

FOR THE NINE DEATHS BUT THAT MAN WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET

WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT WEAPON WITH THE WAITING

THAT WEAPON WITH THE WAITING PERIOD HAD BEEN WHAT I SUGGEST

PERIOD HAD BEEN WHAT I SUGGEST UNTIL YOU ARE CLEARED.

UNTIL YOU ARE CLEARED. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS TOUGH STUFF.

THAT WAS TOUGH STUFF. JOHN HEILEMANN, IT'S

JOHN HEILEMANN, IT'S INTERESTING, ELIZABETH WARREN

INTERESTING, ELIZABETH WARREN STARTED WITH HER FIRST APPROACH,

STARTED WITH HER FIRST APPROACH, MEASURED, ACTUALLY WENT AFTER

MEASURED, ACTUALLY WENT AFTER THE GUY WHO HAS THE BEST SHOT OF

THE GUY WHO HAS THE BEST SHOT OF WINNING THIS INNING AND THEN

WINNING THIS INNING AND THEN TURNED TO BLOOMBERG, A GUY WHO I

TURNED TO BLOOMBERG, A GUY WHO I THINK WAS HURTING HIMSELF

THINK WAS HURTING HIMSELF WITHOUT ANYBODY ELSE'S HELP AND

WITHOUT ANYBODY ELSE'S HELP AND KEPT THIS FOCUS IN A REALLY

KEPT THIS FOCUS IN A REALLY EXTREME FOCUS.

EXTREME FOCUS. >> IT WAS UNCOMFORTABLE.

>> IT WAS UNCOMFORTABLE. >> ON MIKE BLOOMBERG, IN A WAY,

>> ON MIKE BLOOMBERG, IN A WAY, AGAIN, I WANT TO BRING THIS UP,

AGAIN, I WANT TO BRING THIS UP, THAT NOBODY THAT I'VE TALKED TO,

THAT NOBODY THAT I'VE TALKED TO, NOBODY ON TWITTER COULD FIGURE

NOBODY ON TWITTER COULD FIGURE OUT.

OUT. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO KEEP

IT MAKES NO SENSE TO KEEP ATTACKING THE GUY WITH ZERO

ATTACKING THE GUY WITH ZERO DELEGATES WHO IS PERFORMING SO

DELEGATES WHO IS PERFORMING SO POORLY IN THE DEBATE.

POORLY IN THE DEBATE. DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHTS THAT WE

DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHTS THAT WE DON'T?

DON'T? >> WELL, I THINK IF YOU WATCHED

>> WELL, I THINK IF YOU WATCHED IT, JOE, SHE SAID IN THE MIDDLE

IT, JOE, SHE SAID IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE OF HER ATTACKS WHEN SHE

OF ONE OF HER ATTACKS WHEN SHE WENT IN ON THE THING THAT I

WENT IN ON THE THING THAT I THINK MADE PEOPLE THE MOST

THINK MADE PEOPLE THE MOST UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN SHE RAISED

UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN SHE RAISED THIS ALLEGATION THAT BLOOMBERG

THIS ALLEGATION THAT BLOOMBERG TOLD A FEMALE EMPLOYEE IN THE

TOLD A FEMALE EMPLOYEE IN THE PAST THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE A

PAST THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE A PREGNANCY TERMINATED WHEN HE

PREGNANCY TERMINATED WHEN HE SUPPOSEDLY USED THE WORDS KILL

SUPPOSEDLY USED THE WORDS KILL IT WHICH HE DENIES.

IT WHICH HE DENIES. WHEN SHE TOLD THAT STORY SHE

WHEN SHE TOLD THAT STORY SHE SAID -- SHE PREFACED IT BY

SAID -- SHE PREFACED IT BY SAYING THIS IS PERSONAL TO ME.

SAYING THIS IS PERSONAL TO ME. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TAPE, WATCH

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TAPE, WATCH IT AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HER -- HER

IT AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HER -- HER EE MOMENT NLISM RISE WHEN SHE

EE MOMENT NLISM RISE WHEN SHE SAYS T SHE SAYS THIS IS PERSONAL

SAYS T SHE SAYS THIS IS PERSONAL TO ME AND SHE TELLS A STORY

TO ME AND SHE TELLS A STORY ABOUT HERSELF AND RAISES THAT

ABOUT HERSELF AND RAISES THAT ALLEGATION.

ALLEGATION. I THOUGHT IT WAS PLAIN WHAT WAS

I THOUGHT IT WAS PLAIN WHAT WAS GOING ON WHICH WAS TO A LARGE

GOING ON WHICH WAS TO A LARGE EXTENT ELIZABETH WARREN IS AN

EXTENT ELIZABETH WARREN IS AN INCREDIBLY COMPOSED DEBATER AND

INCREDIBLY COMPOSED DEBATER AND SHE RARELY SEEMS TO LET HER

SHE RARELY SEEMS TO LET HER EMOTIONS GET THE BETTER OF HER

EMOTIONS GET THE BETTER OF HER ON THE DEBATE STAGE N THAT

ON THE DEBATE STAGE N THAT MOMENT IT DID SEEM LIKE SHE WAS

MOMENT IT DID SEEM LIKE SHE WAS TELLING US THE TRUTH WHICH IS

TELLING US THE TRUTH WHICH IS SHE FEELS A PERSONAL ANIMUS

SHE FEELS A PERSONAL ANIMUS TOWARDS PLUME BERG ON THIS

TOWARDS PLUME BERG ON THIS FRONT.

FRONT. SHE ALSO MENTIONED NOT JUST THAT

SHE ALSO MENTIONED NOT JUST THAT PERSONAL STORY ABOUT HER LIFE IN

PERSONAL STORY ABOUT HER LIFE IN RELATION TO THIS ABORTION

RELATION TO THIS ABORTION QUESTION, SHE ALSO TOLD --

QUESTION, SHE ALSO TOLD -- MENTIONED THAT PLUME BERG AT

MENTIONED THAT PLUME BERG AT SOME POINT HAD BACKED SCOTT

SOME POINT HAD BACKED SCOTT BROWN IN THE RACE IN HER SENATE

BROWN IN THE RACE IN HER SENATE RACE AND SHE MENTIONED IT IN

RACE AND SHE MENTIONED IT IN PASSING THAT BLOOMBERG -- AS SHE

PASSING THAT BLOOMBERG -- AS SHE WAS GOING THROUGH VARIOUS

WAS GOING THROUGH VARIOUS REPUBLICANS WHO PLUME BERG HAD

REPUBLICANS WHO PLUME BERG HAD BACKED, THOSE ARE POLITICALLY

BACKED, THOSE ARE POLITICALLY DAMAGING CRITIQUES OR

DAMAGING CRITIQUES OR ALLEGATION -- NOT ALLEGATIONS,

ALLEGATION -- NOT ALLEGATIONS, CHARGES AGAINST BLOOMBERG,

CHARGES AGAINST BLOOMBERG, FACTS, BUT BOTH THOSE TWO THINGS

FACTS, BUT BOTH THOSE TWO THINGS FELT TO ME LIKE THEY WERE A KEY

FELT TO ME LIKE THEY WERE A KEY TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON

TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH ELIZABETH WARREN AND MIKE

WITH ELIZABETH WARREN AND MIKE BLOOMBERG.

BLOOMBERG. SHE DOES REALLY SEE -- YOU HAVE

SHE DOES REALLY SEE -- YOU HAVE A PERSONAL THING HERE.

A PERSONAL THING HERE. >> WE ALL --

>> WE ALL -- >> DO I THINK IT'S STRATEGIC, I

>> DO I THINK IT'S STRATEGIC, I DON'T.

DON'T. >> WE ALL HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

>> WE ALL HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRIED TO KILL US POLITICALLY.

TRIED TO KILL US POLITICALLY. IF YOU EVER GET INTO POLITICS.

IF YOU EVER GET INTO POLITICS. >> I KNOW.

>> I KNOW. >> THE PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO KILL

>> THE PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO KILL ME POLITICALLY AND WERE THE

ME POLITICALLY AND WERE THE NASTIEST TO ME DURING CAMPAIGNS,

NASTIEST TO ME DURING CAMPAIGNS, THEY ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE I

THEY ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE I CALLED UP AFTER THE CAMPAIGNS

CALLED UP AFTER THE CAMPAIGNS WERE OVER.

WERE OVER. LIKE YOU SEE IT TIME AND AGAIN

LIKE YOU SEE IT TIME AND AGAIN WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BEAT

WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BEAT OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS RACE OR

OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS RACE OR THAT RACE.

THAT RACE. I JUST DON'T -- AGAIN, THIS

I JUST DON'T -- AGAIN, THIS IS -- MIKE, THIS IS THE SECOND

IS -- MIKE, THIS IS THE SECOND WEEK IN A ROW SHE HAS GONE AFTER

WEEK IN A ROW SHE HAS GONE AFTER A GUY WHO IS GOING NOWHERE AND

A GUY WHO IS GOING NOWHERE AND IF IT'S PERSONAL WITH HER, GOD

IF IT'S PERSONAL WITH HER, GOD BLESS HER, BUT IF YOU WANT TO

BLESS HER, BUT IF YOU WANT TO WIN YOU DON'T GO AFTER THE GUY

WIN YOU DON'T GO AFTER THE GUY THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ZERO

THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ZERO DELEGATES, YOU GO AFTER THE GUY

DELEGATES, YOU GO AFTER THE GUY WHO SEEMS TO BE THE UNSTOPPABLE

WHO SEEMS TO BE THE UNSTOPPABLE FREIGHT TRAIN.

FREIGHT TRAIN. IF IT'S JUST PERSONAL, GO AT IT,

IF IT'S JUST PERSONAL, GO AT IT, BUT SHE'S WASTING A LOT OF TIME

BUT SHE'S WASTING A LOT OF TIME AND WASTING A LOT OF EFFORT IF

AND WASTING A LOT OF EFFORT IF SHE WANTS TO BE THE NEXT

SHE WANTS TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> WELL, SHE DOES WANT TO BE THE

>> WELL, SHE DOES WANT TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

STATES. >> DOES SHE WANT TO MAKE A POINT

>> DOES SHE WANT TO MAKE A POINT OR DOES SHE WANT TO WIN?

OR DOES SHE WANT TO WIN? >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING

>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

QUESTION. I'VE WATCHED HER FOR SEVERAL

I'VE WATCHED HER FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW SINCE PRIOR TO

YEARS NOW SINCE PRIOR TO BECOMING THE CANDIDATE FOR THE

BECOMING THE CANDIDATE FOR THE UNITED STATES SENATE AGAINST

UNITED STATES SENATE AGAINST SCOTT BROWN.

SCOTT BROWN. SHE IS A SKILLFUL, HIGHLY

SHE IS A SKILLFUL, HIGHLY DISCIPLINED DEBATER.

DISCIPLINED DEBATER. MAYBE THE BEST DEBATER CERTAINLY

MAYBE THE BEST DEBATER CERTAINLY ON THAT STAGE.

ON THAT STAGE. PETE BUTTIGIEG IS VERY GOOD, BUT

PETE BUTTIGIEG IS VERY GOOD, BUT ELIZABETH IS HIGHLY DISCIPLINED,

ELIZABETH IS HIGHLY DISCIPLINED, YET IN THIS CASE NOW TWICE WITH

YET IN THIS CASE NOW TWICE WITH MIKE BLOOMBERG TO HER RIGHT BOTH

MIKE BLOOMBERG TO HER RIGHT BOTH TIMES HER DISCIPLINE DISAPPEARS.

TIMES HER DISCIPLINE DISAPPEARS. IT LEAVES HER.

IT LEAVES HER. AND I THINK IT'S HER UTTER

AND I THINK IT'S HER UTTER CONTEMPT FOR MIKE BLOOMBERG THAT

CONTEMPT FOR MIKE BLOOMBERG THAT CAUSES HER --

CAUSES HER -- >> I DISAGREE WITH YOU AND JOHN.

>> I DISAGREE WITH YOU AND JOHN. I DON'T THINK AT THIS STAGE FOR