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  • ON THAT ONE.

  • >> Ed: JOHN ROBERTS WITH A LOT

  • OF TREES BEHIND THEM THERE

  • INSTANTLY DAVOS.

  • JOHN, THANK YOU.

  • >> Sandra: MEANWHILE, HOUSE

  • REPUBLICANS PLANNING TO JOIN THE

  • PRESIDENT'S DEFENSE TEAM.

  • AMONG THEM TEXAS CONGRESSMAN

  • JOHN RATCLIFFE.

  • HE KNEW AND JUST NOW AS OUR

  • GUEST THIS MORNING.

  • GOOD MORNING TO YOU AND

  • THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

  • WHAT EXACTLY WILL YOU DO IN THIS

  • NEW ROLE?

  • >> WELL, IT WAS ANNOUNCED LAST

  • NIGHT, SMITTY, BUT REALLY FOR

  • THE LAST FEW WEEKS I'VE BEEN

  • WORKING WITH THE WHITE HOUSE

  • COUNSEL HELPING THEM PREPARE THE

  • LEGAL BRIEFS THAT ARE BEING

  • SUBMITTED IN THE TRIAL AND

  • PREPARING THE ORAL ARGUMENTS

  • THAT WILL BE PRESENTED LATER

  • THIS WEEK.

  • I WAS ONE OF A FEW MEMBERS THAT

  • WAS INVOLVED IN BOTH PHASES OF

  • THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BEFORE

  • THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE

  • AND THE HOUSE JUDICIARY

  • COMMITTEE.

  • THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION

  • THERE, SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE

  • TO BE AS MUCH OF A RESOURCE FOR

  • THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYERS AS I CAN

  • BE OVER THIS TRIAL.

  • >> Sandra: TO BE CLEAR,

  • THOUGH, YOU WON'T HAVE ANY ROLE

  • IN SPEAKING ON THE SENATE FLOOR?

  • >> THAT HASN'T BEEN FINALLY

  • DETERMINED YET.

  • I THINK THAT'S CURRENTLY THE

  • PLAN.

  • >> Sandra: CURRENTLY THE PLAN

  • NOT TO?

  • >> CURRENTLY THE PLAN NOT TO.

  • BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING

  • TO HAPPEN DURING A TRIAL.

  • PART OF THE REASON WE ARE THERE

  • IS TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE SOME OF

  • THE HOUSE MANAGERS, IN

  • PARTICULAR THE LEAD HOUSE

  • MANAGER, ADAM SCHIFF, AND MAKE

  • SURE THE EVIDENCE IS PRESENTED

  • THE WAY IT OCCURRED IN THE

  • HOUSE.

  • IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THERE

  • MAY BE A CHANGE IN THE TRIAL

  • STRUCTURE.

  • >> Sandra: OF COURSE,

  • CONGRESSMAN, THAT'S WHY THERE'S

  • A DEBATE OF WITNESSES.

  • DEMOCRATS ARE MAKING THE CASE

  • THERE WAS INFORMATION PRESENTED

  • AFTER THE VOTE HAPPENED IN THE

  • HOUSE ON THE ARTICLES OF

  • IMPEACHMENT.

  • WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN WITH THAT

  • DEBATE ULTIMATELY, AND WHAT IS

  • YOUR DEFENSE TO NOT HAVE

  • WITNESSES CALLED?

  • >> I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE

  • ANY WITNESSES CALLED.

  • THERE ISN'T A WITNESS THAT CAN

  • BE CALLED THAT CAN FIX THIS

  • PROCESS.

  • THERE ISN'T A WITNESS ON EITHER

  • SIDE YOU CAN CALL THAT CAN

  • INJECT FAIRNESS AND DUE PROCESS

  • INTO A PROCESS THAT HAD NONE.

  • I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOUR

  • LISTENERS ARE GOING TO HEAR THIS

  • WEEK IS A COMPARISON OF WHAT

  • HAPPENED, THE DISPARITY IN THE

  • WAY PRESIDENT CLINTON AND

  • PRESIDENT NIXON WERE TREATED

  • DURING THEIR IMPEACHMENT

  • INQUIRIES AS OPPOSED TO

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP THE NIXON AND

  • CLINTON LAWYERS WERE ALLOWED TO

  • PARTICIPATE EVERY SINGLE DAY

  • FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END.

  • THEY WERE ALLOWED TO REVIEW

  • EVIDENCE, SUGGEST EVIDENCE, TO

  • CALL WITNESSES, AND

  • CROSS-EXAMINE WITNESSES.

  • BY COMPARISON, PRESIDENT TRUMP

  • DURING HIS 78-DAY IMPEACHMENT

  • INQUIRY, HIS LAWYERS WERE

  • FORBIDDEN FROM PARTICIPATING FOR

  • THE FIRST 71 OF A 78-DAY

  • PROCESS.

  • NOT ALLOWED TO CALL WITNESSES,

  • CROSS-EXAMINE WITNESSES, BE

  • THERE FOR THE PRESENTATION OR

  • REVIEW OF EVIDENCE.

  • THAT IS A LACK OF DUE PROCESS

  • AND FAIRNESS THAT I THINK ALL

  • SENATORS, REPUBLICAN AND

  • DEMOCRAT, ARE GOING TO BE

  • SURPRISED TO LEARN.

  • I THINK AS A RESULT OF THAT THEY

  • ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO HEAR

  • ANY WITNESSES, BECAUSE THE

  • SENATE ISN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO

  • FIX WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HOUSE.

  • >> Sandra: I WANT TO THROW UP

  • ON THE SCREEN THE TWEET LAST

  • NIGHT AFTER IT WAS ANNOUNCED HE

  • WOULD BE A NEW MEMBER OF THE

  • PRESIDENT'S DEFENSE TEAM.

  • HE SAID, "I TOOK THE OATH TO

  • DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.

  • THIS IMPEACHMENT IS AN ASSAULT

  • ON DUE PROCESS.

  • IT'S AN ASSAULT ON THE

  • SEPARATION OF POWERS.

  • IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

  • I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY

  • TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO EVERY

  • AMERICAN DURING THE SENATE

  • TRIAL."

  • FOR YOUR PART, YOU WILL BE

  • CONTROLLING THE MESSAGING, YOU

  • WILL BE CONTROLLING THE DEFENSE

  • OF THIS TEAM.

  • HOW DO YOU LET YOUR STRATEGY?

  • WE ONLY KNOW WHAT WE KNOW.

  • WHAT ARE GOING TO BE THE

  • SURPRISES AS WE WATCH THIS ALL

  • BEGIN THIS AFTERNOON?

  • >> I THINK THE SENATE DEFENSE

  • TEAM, AS THEY PREPARE AND

  • PRESENT THIS, ARE GOING TO POINT

  • OUT THE FACT THAT, AGAIN, THE

  • IRONY OF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS

  • WANTING TO IMPEACH A PRESIDENT

  • FOR OBSTRUCTING HOUSE DEMOCRATS

  • IN A 78-DAY PROCESS WHERE THEY

  • FORBIDDEN FROM PARTICIPATING FOR

  • THE FIRST 71 DAYS, PEOPLE ARE

  • GOING TO FIND IT IRONIC THAT

  • THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS ARE WANTING

  • TO IMPEACH FOR OBSTRUCTION OF

  • CONGRESS, A TERM OF THE FOUNDERS

  • REFERRED TO AS THE SEPARATION OF

  • POWERS.

  • THEY CAN'T MAKE CONSTITUTIONAL

  • ARGUMENTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T

  • HAVE ANY.

  • THIS IMPEACHMENT FAILS.

  • IT FEELS FACTUALLY, IT FEELS

  • LEGALLY, IT FEELS

  • CONSTITUTIONALLY.

  • THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE KILLING

  • A FLY WITH A SLEDGEHAMMER.

  • THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS HAD A WEAK

  • CASE EVEN ON A SLANTED PLAYING

  • FIELD WHERE THEY MADE THE RULES,

  • CHANGE THE RULES, AND BROKE THE

  • WILL'S THEIR ADVANTAGE.

  • ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IT'S

  • GOING TO GET UGLY.

  • I EXPECT A SHORT TRIAL, NO

  • WITNESSES, AND EARLY ACQUITTAL

  • FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.

  • >> Sandra: THE MINORITY LEADER

  • CHUCK SCHUMER TOOK TO A

  • MICROPHONE LAST NIGHT TO SLAM

  • THOSE RULES LAID OUT BY

  • MITCH McCONNELL.