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  • HE WAS THERE IN 2018.

  • >> Neil: THANK YOU, MY FRIEND.

  • MY NEXT GUEST IS PART OF THE

  • SHORTLISTS TO BE PART OF THE

  • PRESIDENT'S LEGAL TEAM.

  • HE JOINS US RIGHT NOW.

  • GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

  • >> THANK YOU, NEIL.

  • >> Neil: LET'S DISCUSS WHAT

  • THE STRATEGY COULD BE HERE.

  • AT THE ISSUE OF WITNESSES.

  • WE HAVE A NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS

  • OPEN TO THE PROSPECT OF

  • WITNESSES.

  • IT ISN'T THAT SIMPLE.

  • IT COULD GET PRETTY INVOLVED.

  • >> WHICH WITNESSES?

  • THE ONES THE HOUSE COULD'VE

  • CALLED BUT FAILED TO?

  • WHAT IS THE STANDARD ABOUT WHAT

  • YOU COULD DECIDE WHETHER TO CALL

  • A WITNESS?

  • IS IT RELEVANCY?

  • THAT IS A PRETTY LOW STANDARD.

  • YOU CAN'T JUST CALL A COUPLE.

  • THERE MAY BE A SENATOR WHO WANTS

  • TO HEAR FROM SOME WITNESS THAT

  • YOU AND I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF

  • BEFORE.

  • WHAT IS THE STANDARD BY WHICH

  • YOU JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT TO ADD

  • WITNESSES?

  • MY POSITION IS, IT IS THE

  • HOUSE'S JOB TO INVESTIGATE.

  • IF THEY DIDN'T THINK ENOUGH TO

  • CALL A WITNESS DURING THE

  • INVESTIGATION, THAN FIVE SAID

  • THIS AND IT?

  • >> Neil: THEY CAN COUNTER THAT

  • THEY TRIED A NUMBER OF PEOPLE

  • AND THEIR PRESIDENT WAS

  • PREVENTING THEM FROM SPEAKING.

  • BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT RAISES AN

  • ISSUE -- IF THEY GET JOHN BOLTO

  • BOLTON, OBVIOUSLY, REPUBLICANS

  • WILL WANT JOE BIDEN AND/OR

  • HUNTER BIDEN.

  • AND ON AND ON WE GO.

  • >> NEIL, YOU GET JOHN BOLTON.

  • EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE STILL APPLY?

  • YOU CANNOT CALL A WITNESS THAT

  • YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO INVOKE

  • PRIVILEGE.

  • IT IS THAT TERRIBLE OBJECT.

  • YOU CAN'T DO IT IN A COURTROOM.

  • YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT

  • IN AN IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING.

  • I GOING TO CALL A WITNESS THAT

  • YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO INVOKE

  • THE FIFTH?

  • ARE YOU GOING TO CALL A WITNESS

  • THAT YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO

  • EVOKE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE?

  • IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN THE REAL

  • WORLD, WHY WOULD YOU CALL A

  • WITNESS SIMPLY FOR THE APPLICANT

  • HAVING THAT WITNESS SAY THAT I

  • CAN'T ANSWER BASED ON EXECUTIVE

  • PRIVILEGE?

  • I GET THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE

  • PRIVILEGES.

  • THERE IS A REASON THAT WE HAVE

  • THEM.

  • AND WE HAVE THEM BECAUSE THE

  • RELATIONSHIP IS MORE IMPORTANT

  • THAN THE INFORMATION.

  • THAT IS TRUE WITH --

  • >> Neil: AND CONGRESS?

  • HOW DO THEY DO IT?

  • IT WOULD NOT BE LIVE SENATE

  • TESTIMONY.

  • IT GOES BACK TO THE CLINTON

  • MOTIF.

  • THEY HAVE THE DEPOSITION AND THE

  • SENATORS AND READ FROM PREPARED

  • REMARKS IN THOSE DEPOSITIONS.

  • IT IS NOT THE PERSON HIM OR

  • HERSELF TALKING.

  • >> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, NEIL?

  • IF YOU HAVE EVER SERVED ON A

  • JURY, TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE

  • WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS

  • TELLING THE TRUTH, YOU NEED TO

  • EYEBALL THEM.

  • YOU NEED TO WATCH THE DEMEANOR.

  • HOW THE HILL DO YOU DO THAT IN A

  • DEPOSITION?

  • I CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING MORE

  • BORING THAN HAVING ADAM SCHIFF

  • GREET DEPOSITION EXCERPTS TO ME.

  • HOW WILL THAT HELP YOU DETERMINE

  • WHETHER OR NOT THE PERSON IS

  • CREDIBLE?

  • YOU KNOW WHAT HERE SHE SAID?

  • HOW DO YOU DETERMINE CREDIBILITY

  • BASED ON THAT?

  • >> Neil: WHEN YOU HEAR THE SIX

  • WEEK TIME FRAME, THAT WILL TAKE

  • US PAST -- NOT ONLY THE IOWA

  • CAUCUSES, BUT THE PRIMARY INTO

  • SUPER TUESDAY POTENTIALLY.

  • THIS COULD REALLY BE A MESS,

  • RIGHT?

  • >> IT COULD BE.

  • I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING SIX

  • WEEKS.

  • TALK ABOUT COOL AND UNUSUAL

  • PUNISHMENT, MAKE THEM WATCH THIS

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I LT

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I LG

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I LT

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I LE

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I LT

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I LE

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I LC

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I LS

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I LE

  • GROUP FOR SIX WEEKS BECAUSE I L.

  • THAT IS TORTURE.

  • IT'S NOT GOING TO LAST SIX

  • WEEKS.

  • I DON'T SUPPORT THE MOTION TO

  • DISMISS, BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T

  • LIKE THINGS BEING SUMMARILY

  • DISMISSED.

  • AT THE HOUSE PRESENT ITS CASE.

  • DON'T THEY HAVE THE BURDEN OF

  • PERSUASION?

  • THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WANT TO

  • REMOVE DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT.

  • LET THEM GO.

  • THEN YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION

  • TO DISMISS.

  • I LIKE IT AT THE END.

  • GO AHEAD AND PRESENT YOUR CASE,

  • VOTE ON IT.

  • A VOTE ON IT LIKE A REGULAR JURY

  • VOTES ON IT.

HE WAS THERE IN 2018.

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