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ARTHEL: VERY FLUID SITUATION.
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RICK LEVENTHAL, THANK YOU VERY
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MUCH.
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ERIC: WHAT COMES NEXT?
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INTERNATIONAL SECURITY EXPERT
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FOR THE MIT SECURITY STUDIES
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PROGRAMS IS WITH US.
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HE MET WITH OFFICIALS ABOUT THE
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IRAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND
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TESTIFIED ABOUT IRAN BEFORE THE
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U.S. SENATE.
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EXPELLING FOREIGN FORCES MEANING
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US, OUR TROOPS, IS THIS
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UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE FOR THE
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STRIKE AND DO YOU THINK THEY
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WILL GO THROUGH WITH THIS.
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>> DEFINITELY, ERIC, THIS IS
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UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF THE
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STRIKE.
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IRAQ REACTING TO THE FACT THAT
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WE CARRIED OUT AN ASSASSINATION
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ON THEIR OWN TERRITORY AND
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KILLED SOME OF THEIR PEOPLE.
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THAT WAS POLITICALLY
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UNACCEPTABLE.
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THERE ALREADY CAUGHT BETWEEN THE
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U.S. AND IRAN AS IT WAS.
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AND THIS JUST PUSHED IT OVER THE
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EDGE.
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WILL THEY ACTUALLY DO IT, ERIC?
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I DON'T KNOW.
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THIS IS MORE OF A SALVO.
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IRAQ HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS RIGHT
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NOW.
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MOST OF IT HAVING TO DO WITH
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REFORM AND PROTEST MOVEMENT AND
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THEIR OWN INTERNAL PROBLEMS.
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THEY MAY BE JUST SOUNDING OFF
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NOW.
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I SORT OF DOUBT WHETHER THEY
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FULLY PULL THE TRIGGER ON THAT.
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BECAUSE THAT IS MORE
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COMPLICATIONS IN A LOT FOR THEM
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WHICH IS ALREADY DEEPLY
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COMPLICATED.
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ERIC: THEY HAVE A LOT OF
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PROBLEMS WITH IRAN.
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HOW DO YOU PREVENT FROM BECOMING
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A SATELLITE OF TEHRAN?
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WE SAW PROTESTS ON THE STREETS
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IN BAGHDAD AGAINST THE
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THEOCRATIC REGIME OF TEHRAN.
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HOW DO OFFICIALS PUSH BACK
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AGAINST THAT.
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>> IRAN WAS THE COUNTRY THAT
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KILL AD LOT OF ISIS WHEN ISIS
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INVADED IRAQ.
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THEY HAVE A POSITIVE BILATERAL
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RELATIONSHIP.
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THERE WILL BE TENSIONS.
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IRAN WILL TRY TO ININFLUENCE
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IRAQ AND SOMETIMES IT WILL
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OVERPLAY ITS HAND.
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WE SAW THE RESULT OF IRAN DOING
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THAT EARLIER IN THE MONTH WHEN
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YOU HAD PROTESTERS IN IRAQ
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PROTESTING IRANIAN INFLUENCE.
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RIGHT NOW WE YANKED THE RUG ON
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THAT, RIGHT?
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THEY WERE MAD AT US.
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THEY WERE MAD AT IRANIANS.
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THEY WERE PROTESTING THEM.
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THAT WAS ALL BEFORE, THE FOCUS
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IS ON US BECAUSE WE WENT TO
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CARRY OUT THIS ASSASSINATION.
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YOU'RE RIGHT, UNINTENDED
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CONSEQUENCE.
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I EXPECT THERE WILL BE MORE TO
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FOLLOW.
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ERIC: HERE IS SECRETARY OF STATE
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MIKE POMPEO THIS MORNING ON
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FOX NEWS SUNDAY TALKING ABOUT
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THE IRAQI DECISION.
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>> WE'VE BEEN IN THE COUNTRY.
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WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTING IRAQI
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SOVEREIGNTY.
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WE'RE TALKING DOWN THE TERRORIST
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THREAT AGAINST THE IRAQI PEOPLE.
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THE PRIME MINISTER IS THE
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RESIGNED PRIME MINISTER.
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HE IS ACTING PRIME MINISTER.
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HE IS UNDER ENORMOUS THREATS
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FROM VERY IRANIAN LEADERSHIP IT
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IS WE'RE PUSHING BACK AGAINST.
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WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THE IRAQI
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PEOPLE WANT THE UNITED STATES TO
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BE THERE TO FIGHT THE
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COUNTERTERROR CAMPAIGN.
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WE'LL DO ALL THE THINGS WE NEED
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TO DO TO KEEP AMERICA SAFE.
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ERIC: DO YOU THINK THAT WILL
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HAPPEN?
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>> I THINK THAT IS REALLY A
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BIZARRE THING TO SAY.
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WE'RE SAYING WE DON'T CARE WHAT
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IRAQ THINKS.
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WE'LL STAY IN IRAQ WHETHER THEY
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WANT US OR NOT.
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I DOUBT THAT IS TRUE.
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I DON'T THINK IRAQ WILL GO ALL
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THE WAY THROUGH.
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THEY PASSED THE RESOLUTION
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THROUGH THE PARLIAMENT BUT DON'T
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COME TO THE ULTIMATE CONCLUSION.
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MORE OPEN FIGHT WITH IRAN, THE
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WORSE IT PUTS IRAQ IN THEIR
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POSITION.
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THEY ARE LITERALLY PHYSICALLY
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CAUGHT BETWEEN US.
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SO THIS SORT OF CONTINUING TO
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MAKE THREATS, WE'RE GOING TO HIT
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52 IRANIAN TARGETS.
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WE'RE GOING TO ATTACK THEIR
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CULTURAL CENTERS, THAT IS NOT
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HELPING IRAQ.
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THEY WANT TO PUSH US AWAY.
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THEY DON'T WANT ANY PART OF
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THAT.
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ERIC: THE SECRETARY OF STATE
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MADE IT VERY CLEAR WE'LL GO
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AFTER THE DECISIONMAKERS.
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JEH JOHNSON, OBAMA OFFICIAL SAID
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SOLEIMANI WAS A LAWFUL MILITARY
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OBJECTIVE.
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HERE IS WHAT THE SECRETARY OF
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STATE SAID THIS MORNING ON
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"FOX NEWS SUNDAY."
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>> IN 2015 THE OBAMA-BIDEN
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ADMINISTRATION ESSENTIALLY
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HANDED POWER TO THE IRANIAN
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LEADERSHIP.
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ACTED AS A QUASI-ALLY OF THEIRS,
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UNDERWRITING THEM, UNDERWRITING
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VERY MILITIAS KILL AMERICANS,
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RESOURCES MONEY THEY HAD TO
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BUILDOUT THE FORCES THROUGHOUT
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THE SHIA CRESCENT WAS PROVIDED
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BY THE NUCLEAR DEAL.
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WE ALLOWED EUROPEANS TO GO DO
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BUSINESS THERE.
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PILED UP THE CASH.
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ALL THESE THINGS ARE THE VERY
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CHALLENGE THAT THE TRUMP
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ADMINISTRATION HAD TO CORRECT.
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ERIC: FINALLY, HOW DO YOU THINK
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THIS WILL PLAY OUT, JIM.
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>> WOW.
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THAT TOOK A LOT OF CHUTZPAH.
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THEY BROKE THE AGREEMENT.
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THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WENT IN
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AND TRASHED THE AGREEMENT.
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EVERYTHING WE SINCED
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EXPERIENCED, DOWNING OF DRONES,
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ATTACK ON AIR RAMCO IN
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SAUDI ARABIA, ATTACK ON BASES,
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NOW THIS BACK AND FORTH.
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NONE OF THAT HAPPENED WHEN WE
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HAD THE NUCLEAR AGREEMENT.
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NONE OF THAT HAPPENED.
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WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP GOT OUT OF
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THE NUCLEAR AGREEMENT HE
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PROMISED THAT IRAN WOULD BEHAVE
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PEACEFULLY.
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THEY COULD --
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ERIC: JIM.
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ERIC: IRAN HAS BEEN ATTACKING
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DID.
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>> THAT IS OPPOSITE.
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ERIC: IRAN HAS BEEN ATTACKING
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THE WEST.
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ISRAEL, THE BOMBING OF THE --
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ARGENTINA.
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ON AND ON.
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>> NONE THAT HAPPENED DURING THE
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IRAN DEAL.
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TALK ABOUT WHAT IRAN DEAL
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BETWEEN 2015 AND TIME THAT
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MR. TRUMP BROKE THE IRAN DEAL.
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THEY DID NONE OF THIS.
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NONE OF IT.
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THEY BROKE IT AND SAID, WE'LL
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FORCE THEM TO DO OUR WILL.
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WE'LL MAKE THEM SUBMIT AND ALL
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WILL BE PEACEFUL AND EXACT
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OPPOSITE HAS HAPPENED.
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NOW THE U.S. IS IN THE BUSINESS
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AND TO PICK UP ON YOUR POINT,
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ERIC, WE'RE SAYING WE WILL
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ASSASSINATE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
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OF OTHER COUNTRIES, NOT SINCE
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WORLD WAR II HAS THE U.S. EVER
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DONE THAT.
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WELCOME TO A NEW WORLD WHICH
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OTHER COUNTRIES THEY MAY DECIDE
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WANT TO ASSASSINATE US FOR
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WHATEVER REASON.
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THAT IS NOT A WORLD WE WANT TO
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GET INTO.
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WE'VE CROSSED A LINE HERE.
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WE'RE CREATING A MORE DANGEROUS