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  • >> Alcindor: SEVEN DEMOCRATIC

  • CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT TOOK

  • THE STAGE AT THE FINAL DEBATE OF

  • 2019 THIS WEEK.

  • ONE OF THOSE WHO DIDN'T QUALIFY,

  • BASED ON POLL NUMBERS AND

  • FUNDRAISING, WAS FORMER

  • MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR DEVAL

  • PATRICK.

  • HE JOINS US NOW FROM THE

  • CAMPAIGN TRAIL IN MANCHESTER,

  • NEW HAMPSHIRE.

  • THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME,

  • GOVERNOR.

  • >> I'M GLAD TO BE WITH YOU,

  • YAMICHE, BUT, COME ON!

  • REALLY?

  • THAT'S THE INTRODUCTION?

  • "HE'S THE ONE WHO WASN'T ON THE

  • STAGE"?

  • COME ON!

  • >> Alcindor: WELL, YOU'RE HERE

  • NOW WITH US.

  • >> I'LL GET THERE.

  • >> Alcindor: YOU GOT IN THIS

  • RACE JUST LAST MONTH.

  • WHAT DO YOU SEE IS YOUR PATH TO

  • THE NOMINATION, GIVEN THAT SOME

  • PEOPLE THINK THAT MAYBE YOU

  • ENTERED TOO LATE?

  • >> WELL, IT'S... I'M LATER BUT

  • NOT LATE.

  • AND I... I THANK YOU FOR THE

  • CHANCE TO MAKE THAT POINT

  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LATE

  • UNTIL THE VOTERS VOTE.

  • AND WHAT'S QUITE CLEAR EVEN IF

  • YOU DO TRUST THE POLLING THAT'S

  • OUT THERE IS THAT THERE ARE

  • OTHER CANDIDATES WHO HAVE BEEN

  • IN FOR A LONG TIME, SPENT A LOT

  • OF MONEY AND A LOT OF TIME, AND

  • IT'S STILL A WIDE OPEN RACE.

  • LARGE, LARGE PROPORTIONS,

  • MAJORITIES OF UNDECIDED VOTERS

  • IN ALL OF THE EARLY STATES.

  • SO, WE ARE RESPECTFUL OF THE

  • CALENDAR.

  • WE WILL COMPETE IN ALL OF THE

  • EARLY STATES.

  • WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME IN

  • NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH

  • CAROLINA, IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE

  • PRIMARIES ARE JUST... THEY'RE

  • DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU

  • ORGANIZE THEM.

  • IF IT'S INTIMATE IN NEW

  • HAMPSHIRE, IT'S GRANULAR IN...

  • IN IOWA, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I

  • MEAN.

  • AND... AND WE WILL... WE WILL BE

  • PRESENT IN IOWA, BUT I THINK

  • YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE TIME SPENT

  • HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IN...

  • AND IN SOUTH CAROLINA.

  • >> Alcindor: THE DEMOCRATIC

  • NATIONAL COMMITTEE HAS RAISED

  • THE THRESHOLD AGAIN FOR THE NEXT

  • DEBATE.

  • IT'S GOING TO BE JANUARY 14.

  • THIS DEBATE, ANDREW YANG WAS THE

  • ONLY CANDIDATE OF COLOR ON

  • STAGE.

  • WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?

  • AND ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE

  • DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE

  • CONTINUING TO RAISE THE BAR?

  • >> WELL, I THINK, LOOK, I... I

  • KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE... THERE

  • HAS TO BE SOME WINNOWING

  • PROCESS.

  • I WILL SAY, I'M NOT SURE THAT

  • THE DEBATES-- AND I SAY THIS

  • RESPECTFULLY, HAVING

  • COMPLIMENTED YOU AND YOUR

  • COLLEAGUES BEFORE WE WENT ON AIR

  • ON YOUR CONDUCT OF THE LAST

  • DEBATE-- I AM HOPING THAT THE

  • FORMAT CHANGES NOT JUST TO

  • EXPOSE ALL OF THE CANDIDATES BUT

  • TO CREATE A... A BETTER VEHICLE

  • TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE... WITH

  • THE VOTING PUBLIC BECAUSE WITH

  • THE EXCEPTION OF... OF THE MOST

  • RECENT DEBATE, MANY OF THEM HAVE

  • FELT MORE LIKE A CAGE FIGHT

  • WHERE THEY WERE... THEY WERE

  • KIND OF ALMOST, WELL, SMALL

  • DIFFERENCES FUSSED ABOUT AMONG

  • THE CANDIDATES INSTEAD OF THE

  • LARGER QUESTION.

  • WHICH, TO ME, IS NOT ABOUT THE

  • CHARACTER OF THE CANDIDATES--

  • DEMOCRAT OR THE INCUMBENT

  • PRESIDENT-- IT'S ABOUT THE

  • CHARACTER OF THE COUNTRY.

  • AND ONE OF THE REASONS, INDEED,

  • THE REASON I'M IN IS BECAUSE I

  • THINK WE SEE A MOMENT RIGHT NOW,

  • YAMICHE, WHERE THE ANXIETY AND

  • FRUSTRATION AND EVEN ANGER THAT

  • PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING ABOUT

  • THEIR ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL LIVES

  • IS SO WIDESPREAD, THERE IS AN

  • OPPORTUNITY THROUGH SOLUTIONS TO

  • UNITE THE COUNTRY.

  • AND MY OWN LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE

  • BOTH IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND IN

  • THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS... HAS

  • BEEN SUCCESSFULLY TO GET PEOPLE

  • TO TURN TO RATHER THAN ON EACH

  • OTHER.

  • AND... AND I THINK IT'S A MOMENT

  • WE SHOULDN'T MISS.

  • >> Alcindor: THE HEADLINE FROM

  • THE LAST DEBATE WAS A FUND-

  • RAISER IN A WINE CAVE.

  • YOU'VE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL

  • CAREER IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

  • WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT BEING

  • THE HEADLINE?

  • AND THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR THE

  • DEMOCRATIC PARTY?

  • >> WELL, I'M SORRY THAT A...

  • THAT A DEBATE THAT WAS SO

  • SUBSTANTIVE OTHERWISE HAD A

  • HEADLINE ABOUT A WINE CAVE.

  • I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER BEEN IN

  • A WINE CAVE.

  • BUT I THINK IT'S KIND OF BESIDE

  • THE POINT.

  • YOU KNOW, I THINK MANY, MANY

  • AMERICANS AGREE WITH ME AND I

  • THINK MANY OF THE CANDIDATES ON

  • THE STAGE THAT WE NEED A BETTER

  • WAY TO FUND OUR POLITICS AND OUR

  • CAMPAIGNS, THAT THERE'S TOO MUCH

  • MONEY; IT IS TOO INFLUENTIAL,

  • ESPECIALLY THE DARK MONEY; AND

  • THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS OUT OF

  • OUR... OUT OF OUR POLITICS.

  • BUT, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT, I

  • THINK THAT THE... THE FACT IS

  • THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO UNITE

  • THE COUNTRY, THEN WE NEED TO

  • FOCUS ON WHAT THE REAL PROBLEMS

  • ARE.

  • THERE ARE REAL PROBLEMS

  • AROUND... AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE,

  • AROUND CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM,

  • AROUND HEALTHCARE.

  • AND THE ISSUE WHEN FOLKS TALK

  • ABOUT MILLIONAIRES AND

  • BILLIONAIRES IS NOT WEALTH, IT'S

  • GREED.

  • AND WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM

  • THAT ENABLES PEOPLE TO HOARD ALL

  • THE BENEFITS AMONG A FEW ON THE

  • THEORY DISCREDITED BY THE WAY

  • THAT IT WOULD TRICKLE DOWN TO

  • EVERYBODY ELSE.

  • AND WE HAVE TO TURN THAT AROUND.

  • SO, I REGRET THAT HEADLINE FOR A

  • WHOLE HOST OF REASONS, BUT, TO

  • ME, IT'S SORT OF BESIDE THE

  • POINT.

  • THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES BEFORE

  • US, AND MY CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT

  • THOSE BIGGER, BIGGER ISSUES AND

  • HOW WE MAKE THE AMERICAN DREAM

  • ACTUALLY WORK FOR EVERYONE

  • EVERYWHERE.