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  • I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD KEEP THEIR SORT OF

  • SHOULD KEEP THEIR SORT OF ATTENTION FOCUSED ON.

  • ATTENTION FOCUSED ON. BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A

  • BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DISTRACTIONS.

  • LOT OF DISTRACTIONS. >> GARRETT HAAKE IN THE HALLWAY

  • >> GARRETT HAAKE IN THE HALLWAY OUTSIDE THIS HEARING.

  • OUTSIDE THIS HEARING. GARRETT, WHAT CAN YOU ADD FROM

  • GARRETT, WHAT CAN YOU ADD FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT?

  • YOUR VANTAGE POINT? >> Reporter: BRIAN, I WAS JUST

  • >> Reporter: BRIAN, I WAS JUST IN THE HEARING ROOM KIND OF

  • IN THE HEARING ROOM KIND OF POKING AROUND AS FOLKS WERE

  • POKING AROUND AS FOLKS WERE GETTING SET UP.

  • GETTING SET UP. AND THE REPUBLICAN POSTERS THAT

  • AND THE REPUBLICAN POSTERS THAT THEY HAVE PUT UP BEHIND THE DIAS

  • THEY HAVE PUT UP BEHIND THE DIAS WHICH I THINK YOU CAN SEE ON

  • WHICH I THINK YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREENS, TELL ME THAT

  • YOUR SCREENS, TELL ME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF

  • THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF USE OF NEAR AND NOT SO NEAR

  • USE OF NEAR AND NOT SO NEAR HISTORY.

  • HISTORY. THEY'RE GOING TO POINT OUT THE

  • THEY'RE GOING TO POINT OUT THE COMMENTS OF CHAIRMAN NADLER BACK

  • COMMENTS OF CHAIRMAN NADLER BACK IN THE '90s WHEN HE WAS A

  • IN THE '90s WHEN HE WAS A DEFENDER OF PRESIDENT CLINTON,

  • DEFENDER OF PRESIDENT CLINTON, ARGUING THAT AN IMPEACHMENT THAT

  • ARGUING THAT AN IMPEACHMENT THAT IS NARROW AND PARTISAN CANNOT

  • IS NARROW AND PARTISAN CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT SUCCEED.

  • AND SHOULD NOT SUCCEED. AND THEY'LL EVEN POINT OUT THE

  • AND THEY'LL EVEN POINT OUT THE COMMENTS FROM SPEAKER PELOSI

  • COMMENTS FROM SPEAKER PELOSI WHEN SHE WAS FENDING OFF

  • WHEN SHE WAS FENDING OFF ELEMENTS OF HER CAUCUS LATE LAST

  • ELEMENTS OF HER CAUCUS LATE LAST YEAR, EARLY THIS YEAR ON THE

  • YEAR, EARLY THIS YEAR ON THE QUESTIONS OF IMPEACHMENT RELATED

  • QUESTIONS OF IMPEACHMENT RELATED TO THE MUELLER REPORT THAT

  • TO THE MUELLER REPORT THAT IMPEACHMENT HAS TO BE A

  • IMPEACHMENT HAS TO BE A BIPARTISAN PROCESS TO BE

  • BIPARTISAN PROCESS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

  • SUCCESSFUL. AND UP UNTIL THIS POINT, IT

  • AND UP UNTIL THIS POINT, IT HASN'T BEEN.

  • HASN'T BEEN. NOW, YOU CAN ARGUE THE REASONS

  • NOW, YOU CAN ARGUE THE REASONS FOR THAT.

  • FOR THAT. REPUBLICANS DIGGING IN IN

  • REPUBLICANS DIGGING IN IN SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT AND

  • SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT AND ESSENTIALLY NOT WILLING TO

  • ESSENTIALLY NOT WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE THAT'S

  • LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE THAT'S BEING PRESENTED.

  • BEING PRESENTED. BUT REPUBLICANS WILL MAKE A

  • BUT REPUBLICANS WILL MAKE A HISTORICALLY ARGUMENT THAT A LOT

  • HISTORICALLY ARGUMENT THAT A LOT OF THE SAME PLAYERS, INCLUDING

  • OF THE SAME PLAYERS, INCLUDING JERRY NADLER WHEN HE WAS A

  • JERRY NADLER WHEN HE WAS A CONGRESSMAN IN THE LATE '90s AS

  • CONGRESSMAN IN THE LATE '90s AS A DEFENDER OF BILL CLINTON, MADE

  • A DEFENDER OF BILL CLINTON, MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU CAN NOT

  • THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU CAN NOT IMPEACH ON A PURELY PARTISAN

  • IMPEACH ON A PURELY PARTISAN VOTE OR A PURELY PARTISAN BASIS.

  • VOTE OR A PURELY PARTISAN BASIS. AND REPUBLICANS ARE PREPARED TO

  • AND REPUBLICANS ARE PREPARED TO DIG IN AND MAKE THAT A CORE

  • DIG IN AND MAKE THAT A CORE ELEMENT OF THEIR DEFENSE OF THE

  • ELEMENT OF THEIR DEFENSE OF THE PRESIDENT TODAY ONCE THINGS GET

  • PRESIDENT TODAY ONCE THINGS GET UNDERWAY HERE IN JUST A FEW

  • UNDERWAY HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.

  • MINUTES. >> THAT IS TRUE, THERE'S NO

  • >> THAT IS TRUE, THERE'S NO CHANGING WHAT'S ON THE VIDEOTAPE

  • CHANGING WHAT'S ON THE VIDEOTAPE AND THERE IS SO MUCH VIDEOTAPE

  • AND THERE IS SO MUCH VIDEOTAPE FROM THE LAST TIME AROUND.

  • FROM THE LAST TIME AROUND. FOLKS LIKE LINDSAY GRAHAM, AND

  • FOLKS LIKE LINDSAY GRAHAM, AND AS YOU CORRECTLY POINT OUT,

  • AS YOU CORRECTLY POINT OUT, FOLKS LIKE THE MAN WHO IS NOW

  • FOLKS LIKE THE MAN WHO IS NOW THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE.

  • THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE. AND THIS IS A VERY VOCAL

  • AND THIS IS A VERY VOCAL REPUBLICAN MINORITY ON THIS

  • REPUBLICAN MINORITY ON THIS COMMITTEE.

  • COMMITTEE. >> Reporter: YEAH, THAT'S

  • >> Reporter: YEAH, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

  • ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THE

  • YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THE PRESIDENT'S BIGGEST DEFENDERS

  • PRESIDENT'S BIGGEST DEFENDERS HERE.

  • HERE. DOUG COLLINS, WHO A LOT OF

  • DOUG COLLINS, WHO A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT MIGHT BE

  • PEOPLE THOUGHT MIGHT BE APPOINTED TO THE SOON TO BE OPEN

  • APPOINTED TO THE SOON TO BE OPEN SENATE SEAT IN GEORGIA AS THE

  • SENATE SEAT IN GEORGIA AS THE RANKING MEMBER HERE.

  • RANKING MEMBER HERE. HE'S SOMEBODY WHO REALLY KNOWS

  • HE'S SOMEBODY WHO REALLY KNOWS HOW TO USE THE PARLIAMENTARY

  • HOW TO USE THE PARLIAMENTARY TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO HIM

  • TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO HIM TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, GUM UP THE

  • TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, GUM UP THE WORKS HERE.

  • WORKS HERE. BUT YOU'VE ALSO GOT MATT GATES,

  • BUT YOU'VE ALSO GOT MATT GATES, SOME OF THE PRESIDENT'S MORE

  • SOME OF THE PRESIDENT'S MORE HARD CORE DEFENDERS.

  • HARD CORE DEFENDERS. THESE ARE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN ON

  • THESE ARE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE TRUMP TRAIN FOR AS LONG AS

  • THE TRUMP TRAIN FOR AS LONG AS THAT HAS BEEN A THING.

  • THAT HAS BEEN A THING. NOT TO MENTION JIM JORDAN, WHO

  • NOT TO MENTION JIM JORDAN, WHO PEOPLE GOT A THOROUGH TASTE OF

  • PEOPLE GOT A THOROUGH TASTE OF WHEN HE WAS SUBSTITUTED INTO THE

  • WHEN HE WAS SUBSTITUTED INTO THE INTEL PANEL.

  • INTEL PANEL. HE'S BACK NOW ON THE JUDICIARY

  • HE'S BACK NOW ON THE JUDICIARY PANEL AND HE'S A REGULAR MEMBER

  • PANEL AND HE'S A REGULAR MEMBER OF THAT BODY.

  • OF THAT BODY. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OF

  • YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THESE MUCH LOUDER AND PERHAPS

  • THESE MUCH LOUDER AND PERHAPS MORE COMFORTABLE BEING BOMB

  • MORE COMFORTABLE BEING BOMB THROWER DEFENDERS OF THE

  • THROWER DEFENDERS OF THE PRESIDENT HERE ON THIS

  • PRESIDENT HERE ON THIS COMMITTEE.

  • COMMITTEE. LIKEWISE FOR DEMOCRATS.

  • LIKEWISE FOR DEMOCRATS. THEY'VE GOT SOME OF THEIR MORE

  • THEY'VE GOT SOME OF THEIR MORE PARTISAN, MORE PROGRESSIVE, MORE

  • PARTISAN, MORE PROGRESSIVE, MORE ACTIVIST MEMBERS ON THIS

  • ACTIVIST MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE, TOO.

  • COMMITTEE, TOO. THERE WILL BE NO SHORTAGE OF

  • THERE WILL BE NO SHORTAGE OF FIREWORKS HERE.

  • FIREWORKS HERE. THIS IS SUCH A DIFFERENT GROUP

  • THIS IS SUCH A DIFFERENT GROUP THAN THE INTEL COMMITTEE, WHICH

  • THAN THE INTEL COMMITTEE, WHICH IS MUCH MORE TIGHT KNIT, IN MANY

  • IS MUCH MORE TIGHT KNIT, IN MANY CASES HAND PICKED BY LEADERSHIP

  • CASES HAND PICKED BY LEADERSHIP TO SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE.

  • TO SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE. THIS IS A FIGHTERS' COMMITTEE,

I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD KEEP THEIR SORT OF

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