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  • >> Sandra: GILLIAN, THANKS.

  • >> Bill: ROBERT WRAY, FORMER

  • FEDERAL PROSECUTOR.

  • YOU HEARD THE PRESIDENT, YOU

  • WATCHED THE HEARINGS ALL WEEK

  • LONG.

  • WHERE ARE WE IN AMERICA RIGHT

  • NOW AFTER FIVE DAYS OF

  • HEARINGS, ROBERT?

  • >> THE MOST RECENT NEWS IS THAT

  • THE COUNTER ATTACK BY THE WHITE

  • HOUSE THROUGH THE PRESIDENT OF

  • THE UNITED STATES HIMSELF HAS

  • JUST BEGUN.

  • THAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING.

  • ON YOUR NETWORK.

  • SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT

  • DEVELOPMENT, I THINK.

  • WHERE WE ARE IS THAT IT LOOKS

  • LIKE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE

  • CONCLUDED REGARDING THE SELECT

  • COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE AND I

  • IMAGINE THAT THE DEMOCRATS NOW

  • ARE BUSY THROUGH THE HOUSE

  • JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WITH

  • CONSIDERATION OF THE ARTICLES

  • OF IMPEACHMENT THEY INTEND TO

  • PURSUE ULTIMATELY WITH A

  • RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL

  • HOUSE TO VOTE ON IT.

  • WHETHER THEY HAVE A MAJORITY OR

  • NOT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

  • >> Bill: DID YOU HEAR SLAM DUNK

  • EVIDENCE TO CONVINCE THEM ONE

  • WAY OR ANOTHER OR WHETHER YOU

  • TAKE A STEP BACK AND GO FOR A

  • CENSURE VOTE?

  • >> MY IMPRESSION OF WHAT HAS

  • HAPPENED NOW THAT THIS IS IN

  • THE SENSE OVER, IN OTHER WORDS,

  • THEY HAVE THE EVIDENCE THEY ARE

  • GOING TO HAVE.

  • NO MORE EVIDENCE LIKELY.

  • THEY'LL GO WITH THIS.

  • >> Bill: NO MORE WITNESSES?

  • >> I THINK NANCY PELOSI SAYS

  • THEY'LL ATTEMPT TO HAVE

  • WITNESSES IF IT MAKES IT TO THE

  • SENATE FOR TRIAL BUT I DON'T

  • THINK YOU'LL SEE ANY FURTHER

  • WITNESSES BEFORE THE HOUSE.

  • I COULD BE WRONG.

  • IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE FULLY

  • INTENT ON PROCEEDING WITH THIS

  • WHEREVER IT LEADS AND BEGINNING

  • WHEN THEY RETURN FROM THEIR

  • THANKSGIVING RECESS IN THE

  • FIRST COUPLE WEEKS OF DECEMBER.

  • >> Bill: THE OPENING COMMENT

  • YOU MADE IS INTERESTING.

  • THE FIRST SIGN OF THE WHITE

  • HOUSE GOING ON OFFENSE

  • ESSENTIALLY LED BY THE

  • PRESIDENT.

  • TAKE YOU BACK.

  • LET'S START WITH BRIAN'S

  • QUESTION ABOUT THE AID TIED TO

  • CORRUPTION AND HOW THAT CAME UP

  • IN THE HEARING.

  • HERE IS THE QUESTION AND ANSWER

  • A MOMENT AGO.

  • >> YOU DO SAY I WANTED TO HOLD

  • UP THAT AID BECAUSE OF

  • CORRUPTION.

  • >> President Trump: TWO REASONS.

  • FOR CORRUPTION BECAUSE IT'S

  • KNOWN.

  • I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY

  • IS GOING TO BE SPENT PROPERLY.

  • THERE IS ANOTHER REASON THAT IS

  • MAYBE TO ME THE MOST IMPORTANT.

  • WHY ISN'T GERMANY, FRANCE, THE

  • EUROPEAN UNION, WHY AREN'T ALL

  • THOSE COUNTRIES IN EUROPE, WHY

  • AREN'T THEY PAYING?

  • WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE UNITED

  • STATES, THE SUCKER.

  • I GOT ELECTED ON THAT.

  • >> THE PRESIDENT HAS THE RIGHT

  • TO TEMPORARILY WITHHOLD SAID TO

  • SEE WHAT THE UKRAINIANS WOULD

  • DO.

  • ADAM SCHIFF'S ARGUMENT IS

  • BECAUSE HE RELEASED THE AID IS

  • BECAUSE HE GOT CAUGHT.

  • THAT WAS A LITTLE NOTICED PART

  • OF MICK MULVANEY'S PRESS

  • CONFERENCE, OMB DIDN'T HAVE THE

  • AUTHORITY TO RETAIN THE AID

  • INDEFINITELY BUT ONLY DO SO

  • UNTIL THE END OF THE FISCAL

  • YEAR, SEPTEMBER 30th OF THIS

  • YEAR.

  • >> Bill: YOUR POINT IS WELL

  • TAKEN GOING ON OFFENSE RIGHT

  • NOW AFTER YOU'RE PULLING ON

  • DEFENSE.

  • MICHAEL HOROWITZ, THE I.G.

  • REPORT.

  • WHAT IS YOUR EXPECTATION THERE

  • APPEARS TO BE AN INCLINATION

  • TOWARD CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS

  • WITH JOHN DURHAM?

  • >> I THINK WE KNOW SOME

  • IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE'LL

  • FIND OUT THE REST OF THE STORY

  • NOW ON DECEMBER 9th.

  • THE FIRST IS THAT IT WAS

  • SOMEONE IN THE PROCESS OF

  • APPLYING TO THE FISA COURT IN

  • ORDER TO GET A WARRANT TO

  • SURVEIL CARTER PAGE.

  • THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.

  • THE INDIVIDUAL WAS AT THE F.B.I.

  • IT WAS A LAWYER.

  • THERE WAS A DOCUMENT THAT WAS

  • ALTERED.

  • AND IT WAS RELIED UPON IN THE

  • FISA APPLICATION PROCESS.

  • THAT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT

  • ERROR IN JUDGMENT.

  • THAT'S POTENTIALLY A CRIMINAL

>> Sandra: GILLIAN, THANKS.

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