Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles FOLLOW THOSE. SO I ASSUME THEY SENT SOME KIND OF REPORT TO THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND THERE WILL BE SOME PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY DUE PROCESS BUT I HAVE FRANKLY NO IDEA BECAUSE THIS HAS CHANGED THROUGHOUT, THEY WERE ALREADY DOING DEPOSITIONS AND THEN THEY HOLD A VOTE WHICH THEY COULDN'T KEEP ALL THEIR MEMBERS IN LINE FOR, SO WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE IN STORE FOR US NEXT. >> Bret: WILL YOU MOVE OVER TO JUDICIARY TO DO THAT? >> WHEN THE LEADER PUT ME IN INTEL, I AM STILL ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. >> Bret: SO YOUR GUESS IS IT'S GOING TO COME TO AN IMPEACHMENT VOTE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. >> I DO THINK THAT'S THE PATH THEY ARE ON BUT AGAIN, YOU NEVER KNOW WITH THESE GUYS. THIS WAS THE MOST UNFAIR PROCESS I'VE EVER SEEN. WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO CALL THE WITNESSES THAT WE WANT, THE ONES WE WANTED THEY IGNORED. EVEN TODAY THEY HAVEN'T RELEASED ALL THE DEPOSITIONS SO THERE WERE CERTAIN TESTIMONY GIVEN IN THESE DEPOSITIONS TAKEN IN THE BUNKER OF THE BASEMENT OF THE CAPITAL WE COULDN'T USE AN OPEN HEARING. SO WE WILL HAVE TO SEE BUT I ANTICIPATE, THAT'S MY BEST GUESS. >> Bret: TODAY, DAVID HOLMES WAS THERE, TO TESTIFY ABOUT THIS PHONE CALL BETWEEN AMBASSADOR SONDLAND AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. TAKE A LISTEN, AMBASSADOR TAYLOR AND THEN YOUR QUESTION. >> THE MEMBER OF MY STAFF ASKED AMBASSADOR SONDLAND WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP THOUGHT ABOUT UKRAINE. MR. SONDLAND RESPONDED THAT TRUMP CARES MORE ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIONS OF BIOTIN. >> WHY DIDN'T YOUR BOSS BRING UP THE CALL? >> ARE REFERRED TO THAT CALL, HE NODDED KNOWINGLY AS THOUGH HE HAD BEEN BRIEFED ON IT. >> I ASKED WHY HE DIDN'T SHARE IT WITH US. >> EVERYONE IS NODDING, OF COURSE THAT IS WHAT'S GOING ON. OF COURSE THE PRESIDENT IS PRESSING FOR A BITE AN INVESTIGATION. >> Bret: YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD AND GET TO THIS POINT WHERE A LOT OF THE WITNESSES SAID THEY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION IN COURTING AMBASSADOR SONDLAND, 100% BY SEPTEMBER 8TH THAT THE AID WAS TIED TO THE INVESTIGATIONS OF BURISMA AND BIDEN IN 2016. >> MR. SONDLAND SAID THERE WAS ANNOUNCEMENT THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE BY PRESIDENT ZELENSKY THAT THEY WOULD DO AN INVESTIGATION INTO BURISMA AND THE BIDENS AND THAT IF THE ANNOUNCEMENT IS NOT MADE, THEY DON'T GET THE CALL OR THE MEETING ON THE MONEY. AND THEY GOT THE CALL, THEY GOT THE MEETING, THEY GOT THE SECURITY ASSISTANCE DOLLARS AND THERE WAS NEVER AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR PRESIDENT ZELENSKY OR ANYONE ELSE IN UKRAINE AND THE GOVERNMENT SO THIS IDEA THAT THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO DID NOT HAPPEN, AND YET THEY CONTINUE TO SAY THIS IS IMPEACHABLE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT AT ALL. THIS IS ABOUT THEY HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN 63 MILLION AMERICANS IN AN ELECTORAL COLLEGE LANDSLIDE SAID WE ARE GOING TO SEND DONALD TRUMP TO WASHINGTON AND SHAKE THAT TOWN UP AND THE ESTABLISHMENT HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED THAT AND THEY WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES, FBI INVESTIGATION, DOSSIER TO GET HIM OUT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT. >> Bret: ONE, DO YOU BUY THAT THESE PROFESSIONALS DIDN'T TIE BURISMA TO BIDEN? ALL OF THESE GUYS SAYING VOLKER AND SONDLAND, SECRETARY PERRY, DIDN'T TIE THAT BURISMA HAD TO DO WITH JOE BIDEN? >> SOME OF THEM DID TIED TO THAT >> SOME OF THEM DID TIED TO THA THAT. KURT VOLKER HAS A DISTINGUISHED CAREER, SPECIAL ENVOY. A DEFINITIVE NARRATIVE ON THE SPIRIT HE WAS THE FIRST WITNESS THAT ADAM SCHIFF CALLED AND YET HIS TESTIMONY IS THE ONE THAT I THINK BEST TELLS THIS ENTIRE STORY, THIS ENTIRE EPISODE WHERE THERE WAS NEVER A QUID PRO QUO, THAT IT ULTIMATELY GOT DELIVERED. SOMETIMES THESE THINGS GET HELD UP. WE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM LOTS OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THAT AS WELL SO IT ALL WORKED OUT IN THE END BUT A NEW GUY NEVER BEEN IN POLITICS WHAT WE'VE GOT, NEVER NEVER BET ON POLITICS AND WANTED TO CHECK HIM OUT AND PEOPLE DEAD BUT THE 55 DAYS AT THE AID WAS HELD, THE VICE PRESIDENT AMBASSADOR BOLTON, WENT THERE AND MET WITH THIS GUY AND THEY ALL COME BACK AND SAID THIS, HE IS THE REAL DEAL, REFORMER, RELEASED THE DOLLARS THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DID EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DI DID. >> Bret: AMBASSADOR SONDLAND CALLS PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE PRESIDENT HAS MESSED REFERENCED IT MANY TIMES, I WANT NOTHING, NO QUID PRO QUO. AT THE SAME TIME, THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE LAUNCHES THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON THE WHISTLE-BLOWER. WE DON'T SEE A COINCIDENCE THEY ARE? >> I DON'T BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE VICE PRESIDENT PENCE MET WITH THIS GUY, HE HAD THE REFORMS THEY DID IN THEIR PARLIAMENT WHERE THEY STARTED THIS CORRUPTION COURT WHAT THEY GOT RID OF THE FORMER PROSECUTOR. THERE WERE REFORMS THAT WERE NEEDED AND YOU HAD A PRESIDENT, DONALD TRUMP IS NOT A BIG FAN OF FOREIGN AID IN THE FIRST PLACE, HE WANTS EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO SHARE MORE OF THE BURDEN. HE UNDERSTOOD THE CORRUPTION PROBLEM AND SAID UKRAINE IS ONE OF THE THREE MOST CORRUPT COUNTRIES ON THE PLANET, PLUS HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT INFLUENCE OF THE 2016 ELECTION AND THINGS UKRAINIAN POLITICIANS WERE DOING TO PERSUADE. ALL THAT PACKAGE AND SAID BY THE WAY, YOU'VE GOT A NEW PRESIDENT