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  • FOLLOW THOSE.

  • SO I ASSUME THEY SENT SOME KIND

  • OF REPORT TO THE JUDICIARY

  • COMMITTEE AND THERE WILL BE SOME

  • PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY DUE

  • PROCESS BUT I HAVE FRANKLY NO

  • IDEA BECAUSE THIS HAS CHANGED

  • THROUGHOUT, THEY WERE ALREADY

  • DOING DEPOSITIONS AND THEN THEY

  • HOLD A VOTE WHICH THEY COULDN'T

  • KEEP ALL THEIR MEMBERS IN LINE

  • FOR, SO WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT

  • THEY HAVE IN STORE FOR US NEXT.

  • >> Bret: WILL YOU MOVE OVER TO

  • JUDICIARY TO DO THAT?

  • >> WHEN THE LEADER PUT ME IN

  • INTEL, I AM STILL ON THE

  • JUDICIARY COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT

  • COMMITTEE.

  • >> Bret: SO YOUR GUESS IS IT'S

  • GOING TO COME TO AN IMPEACHMENT

  • VOTE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

  • >> I DO THINK THAT'S THE PATH

  • THEY ARE ON BUT AGAIN, YOU NEVER

  • KNOW WITH THESE GUYS.

  • THIS WAS THE MOST UNFAIR PROCESS

  • I'VE EVER SEEN.

  • WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO CALL THE

  • WITNESSES THAT WE WANT, THE ONES

  • WE WANTED THEY IGNORED.

  • EVEN TODAY THEY HAVEN'T RELEASED

  • ALL THE DEPOSITIONS SO THERE

  • WERE CERTAIN TESTIMONY GIVEN IN

  • THESE DEPOSITIONS TAKEN IN THE

  • BUNKER OF THE BASEMENT OF THE

  • CAPITAL WE COULDN'T USE AN OPEN

  • HEARING.

  • SO WE WILL HAVE TO SEE BUT I

  • ANTICIPATE, THAT'S MY BEST

  • GUESS.

  • >> Bret: TODAY, DAVID HOLMES

  • WAS THERE, TO TESTIFY ABOUT THIS

  • PHONE CALL BETWEEN AMBASSADOR

  • SONDLAND AND THE PRESIDENT OF

  • THE UNITED STATES.

  • TAKE A LISTEN, AMBASSADOR TAYLOR

  • AND THEN YOUR QUESTION.

  • >> THE MEMBER OF MY STAFF ASKED

  • AMBASSADOR SONDLAND WHAT

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP THOUGHT ABOUT

  • UKRAINE.

  • MR. SONDLAND RESPONDED THAT

  • TRUMP CARES MORE ABOUT THE

  • INVESTIGATIONS OF BIOTIN.

  • >> WHY DIDN'T YOUR BOSS BRING UP

  • THE CALL?

  • >> ARE REFERRED TO THAT CALL, HE

  • NODDED KNOWINGLY AS THOUGH HE

  • HAD BEEN BRIEFED ON IT.

  • >> I ASKED WHY HE DIDN'T SHARE

  • IT WITH US.

  • >> EVERYONE IS NODDING, OF

  • COURSE THAT IS WHAT'S GOING ON.

  • OF COURSE THE PRESIDENT IS

  • PRESSING FOR A BITE AN

  • INVESTIGATION.

  • >> Bret: YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD

  • AND GET TO THIS POINT WHERE A

  • LOT OF THE WITNESSES SAID THEY

  • CAME TO THE CONCLUSION IN

  • COURTING AMBASSADOR SONDLAND,

  • 100% BY SEPTEMBER 8TH THAT THE

  • AID WAS TIED TO THE

  • INVESTIGATIONS OF BURISMA AND

  • BIDEN IN 2016.

  • >> MR. SONDLAND SAID THERE WAS

  • ANNOUNCEMENT THAT NEEDED TO BE

  • MADE BY PRESIDENT ZELENSKY THAT

  • THEY WOULD DO AN INVESTIGATION

  • INTO BURISMA AND THE BIDENS AND

  • THAT IF THE ANNOUNCEMENT IS NOT

  • MADE, THEY DON'T GET THE CALL OR

  • THE MEETING ON THE MONEY.

  • AND THEY GOT THE CALL, THEY GOT

  • THE MEETING, THEY GOT THE

  • SECURITY ASSISTANCE DOLLARS AND

  • THERE WAS NEVER AN ANNOUNCEMENT

  • FOR PRESIDENT ZELENSKY OR ANYONE

  • ELSE IN UKRAINE AND THE

  • GOVERNMENT SO THIS IDEA THAT

  • THERE WAS A QUID PRO QUO DID NOT

  • HAPPEN, AND YET THEY CONTINUE TO

  • SAY THIS IS IMPEACHABLE.

  • THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT AT ALL.

  • THIS IS ABOUT THEY HAVE NEVER

  • ACCEPTED THE WILL OF THE

  • AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN 63 MILLION

  • AMERICANS IN AN ELECTORAL

  • COLLEGE LANDSLIDE SAID WE ARE

  • GOING TO SEND DONALD TRUMP TO

  • WASHINGTON AND SHAKE THAT TOWN

  • UP AND THE ESTABLISHMENT HAVE

  • NEVER ACCEPTED THAT AND THEY

  • WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES, FBI

  • INVESTIGATION, DOSSIER TO GET

  • HIM OUT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS

  • REALLY ABOUT.

  • >> Bret: ONE, DO YOU BUY THAT

  • THESE PROFESSIONALS DIDN'T TIE

  • BURISMA TO BIDEN?

  • ALL OF THESE GUYS SAYING VOLKER

  • AND SONDLAND, SECRETARY PERRY,

  • DIDN'T TIE THAT BURISMA HAD TO

  • DO WITH JOE BIDEN?

  • >> SOME OF THEM DID TIED TO THAT

  • >> SOME OF THEM DID TIED TO THA

  • THAT.

  • KURT VOLKER HAS A DISTINGUISHED

  • CAREER, SPECIAL ENVOY.

  • A DEFINITIVE NARRATIVE ON THE

  • SPIRIT HE WAS THE FIRST WITNESS

  • THAT ADAM SCHIFF CALLED AND YET

  • HIS TESTIMONY IS THE ONE THAT I

  • THINK BEST TELLS THIS ENTIRE

  • STORY, THIS ENTIRE EPISODE WHERE

  • THERE WAS NEVER A QUID PRO QUO,

  • THAT IT ULTIMATELY GOT

  • DELIVERED.

  • SOMETIMES THESE THINGS GET HELD

  • UP.

  • WE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM LOTS OF

  • PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THAT AS

  • WELL SO IT ALL WORKED OUT IN THE

  • END BUT A NEW GUY NEVER BEEN IN

  • POLITICS WHAT WE'VE GOT, NEVER

  • NEVER BET ON POLITICS AND WANTED

  • TO CHECK HIM OUT AND PEOPLE DEAD

  • BUT THE 55 DAYS AT THE AID WAS

  • HELD, THE VICE PRESIDENT

  • AMBASSADOR BOLTON, WENT THERE

  • AND MET WITH THIS GUY AND THEY

  • ALL COME BACK AND SAID THIS, HE

  • IS THE REAL DEAL, REFORMER,

  • RELEASED THE DOLLARS THAT'S

  • EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DID

  • EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DI

  • DID.

  • >> Bret: AMBASSADOR SONDLAND

  • CALLS PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE

  • PRESIDENT HAS MESSED REFERENCED

  • IT MANY TIMES, I WANT NOTHING,

  • NO QUID PRO QUO.

  • AT THE SAME TIME, THE HOUSE

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE LAUNCHES

  • THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON THE

  • WHISTLE-BLOWER.

  • WE DON'T SEE A COINCIDENCE THEY

  • ARE?

  • >> I DON'T BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE

  • VICE PRESIDENT PENCE MET WITH

  • THIS GUY, HE HAD THE REFORMS

  • THEY DID IN THEIR PARLIAMENT

  • WHERE THEY STARTED THIS

  • CORRUPTION COURT WHAT THEY GOT

  • RID OF THE FORMER PROSECUTOR.

  • THERE WERE REFORMS THAT WERE

  • NEEDED AND YOU HAD A PRESIDENT,

  • DONALD TRUMP IS NOT A BIG FAN OF

  • FOREIGN AID IN THE FIRST PLACE,

  • HE WANTS EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO

  • SHARE MORE OF THE BURDEN.

  • HE UNDERSTOOD THE CORRUPTION

  • PROBLEM AND SAID UKRAINE IS ONE

  • OF THE THREE MOST CORRUPT

  • COUNTRIES ON THE PLANET, PLUS HE

  • WAS CONCERNED ABOUT INFLUENCE OF

  • THE 2016 ELECTION AND THINGS

  • UKRAINIAN POLITICIANS WERE DOING

  • TO PERSUADE.

  • ALL THAT PACKAGE AND SAID BY THE

  • WAY, YOU'VE GOT A NEW PRESIDENT