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  • >> MR. VINDMAN YOU TESTIFIED IN

  • YOUR DEPOSITION THAT YOU DID

  • NOT KNOW THE WHISTLEBLOWER.

  • LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN YOU

  • TESTIFIED YOU DID NOT KNOW WHO

  • THE WHISTLEBLOWER WAS.

  • >> I DO NOT KNOW WHO THE

  • WHISTLEBLOWER IS.

  • >> HOW IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU

  • TO NAME THESE PEOPLE AND THEN

  • OUT THE WHISTLEBLOWER?

  • >> PER THE ADVICE OF MY COUNSEL

  • I'VE BEEN ADVISED NOT TO ANSWER

  • SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT

  • MEMBERS OF THE INTELLIGENCE

  • COMMUNITY.

  • >> ARE YOU AWARE THIS IS THE

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE THAT IS

  • CONDUCTING AN IMPEACHMENT

  • HEARING?

  • >> OF COURSE I AM.

  • >> WOULDN'T THE APPROPRIATE

  • PLACE FOR YOU TO COME TO TO

  • TESTIFY WOULD BE THE

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE ABOUT

  • SOMEONE WITHIN THE INTELLIGENCE

  • COMMUNITY?

  • >> RANKING MEMBER, PER THE

  • ADVICE OF MY COUNSEL AND THE

  • INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE CHAIRMAN,

  • I HAVE BEEN ADVISED NOT TO

  • PROVIDE ANY SPECIFICS ON WHO I

  • HAVE SPOKEN TO WITH INSIDE THE

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.

  • WHAT I CAN OFFER IS THAT THESE

  • WERE PROPERLY CLEARED

  • INDIVIDUALS, A PROPERLY CLEARED

  • INDIVIDUAL WITH A NEED TO KNOW.

  • >> THIS IS -- YOU COULD PLEAD

  • THE FIFTH, BUT YOU ARE HERE TO

  • ANSWER QUESTIONS AND YOU ARE

  • HERE UNDER SUBPOENA.

  • SO YOU CAN EITHER ANSWER THE

  • QUESTION OR PLEAD THE FIFTH?

  • >> EXCUSE ME.

  • ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT WE ARE

  • FOLLOWING THE RULE OF THE

  • COMMITTEE, RULE OF THE CHAIR

  • WITH REGARD TO THIS ISSUE.

  • AND THIS DOES NOT CALL FOR AN

  • ANSWER INVOKING THE FIFTH OR

  • ANY ISSUE LIKE THAT.

  • WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RULING OF

  • THE CHAIR.

  • >> COUNSELOR, WHAT RULING IS

  • THAT?

  • >> COUNSEL IS CORRECT.

  • WHISTLEBLOWER HAS A STATUTORY

  • RIGHT TO ANONYMITY.

  • THESE PROCEEDINGS WON'T BE USED

  • TO OUT THE WHISTLEBLOWER.

  • >> I HAVE ADVISED MY CLIENT

  • ACCORDINGLY AND HE WILL FOLLOW

  • THE RULING OF THE CHAIR.

  • IF THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE OR

  • YOU WANT TO WORK SOMETHING OUT

  • WITH THE CHAIR, THAT'S UP TO

  • YOU, MR. NUNES.

  • >> WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO

  • SUBPOENA THE WHISTLEBLOWER TO

  • SIT FOR A DEPOSITION.

  • THE CHAIR HAS TABLED THAT

  • MOTION AND HAS BEEN UNWILLING

>> MR. VINDMAN YOU TESTIFIED IN

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