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  • BRIAN: ALL EYES ON CAPITOL HILL

  • WHERE MORE HEARINGS ARE EXPECTED

  • AS PART OF DEMOCRATS PUSH FOR

  • IMPEACHMENT.

  • STEVE: REPUBLICANS ARE TURNING

  • THE TABLES.

  • THEY WANT ADAM SCHIFF TO TESTIFY

  • HIMSELF AS THEY CONSIDER MOVING

  • A KEY FIGURE ON THEIR END TO THE

  • HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.

  • THE PANEL SET TO CONDUCT THE

  • INITIAL PUBLIC HEARING.

  • SPEAKING OF THE KEY FIGURE, WE

  • HAVE HIM HERE.

  • AINSLEY: CONGRESSMAN JIM JORDAN

  • ESSENTIALLY LED GOP EFFORTS IN

  • THE CLOSED-DOOR IMPEACHMENT

  • PROCEEDINGS HUSBAND FAR.

  • HE JOINS US NOW.

  • THERE ARE THOUGHTS YOU MIGHT BE

  • MOVED TEMPORARILY TO THE

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE SO YOU

  • CAN QUESTION ADAM SCHIFF

  • POTENTIALLY AND --

  • >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SCHIFF.

  • WE'LL SEE.

  • THAT IS A CALL FOR LEADER

  • McCARTHY.

  • AINSLEY: WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?

  • BECAUSE YOU'RE A BULLDOG?

  • >> THAT IS THE KEVIN, LEADER

  • McCARTHY'S CALL.

  • IF KEVIN AND RANKING MEMBER

  • NUNEZ WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN, I

  • WANT TO HELP OUR TEAM.

  • I WANT OUR COUNTRY TO SEE THE

  • TRUTH HERE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

  • DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.

  • WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING, IT

  • IS PARTISAN, UNFAIR.

  • FRANKLY RIDICULOUS THE

  • PARTICULARLY THE WAY WITH SECRET

  • MEET NATIONAL THE BUNKER OF THE

  • BASEMENT OF THE CAPITOL.

  • BRIAN: DEM --

  • STEVE: DEMOCRATS RELEASED

  • PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT TRYING TO

  • ESTABLISH THE PRESIDENT IS A BAD

  • GUY.

  • THIS ALL GOT STARTED UKRAINIAN

  • THING WITH THE WHISTLEBLOWER WHO

  • TOLD A STORY THAT WAS LEAKED

  • TURNED OUT NOT TO BE TRUE.

  • NOW I KNOW YOU'RE SIDE SAYS WE

  • SHOULD HEAR FROM THE

  • WHISTLEBLOWER ABOUT THE

  • CONSPIRACY?

  • >> HECK YEAH.

  • ONE WAY YOU DETERMINE SOMEONE'S

  • CREDIBILITY, WHAT THEIR

  • MOTIVATION IS, WHAT BIASES THEY

  • MAY HAVE, THEY NEED TO BE UNDER

  • OATH, ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS

  • AND FRANKLY THE POSITION WE HAVE

  • IS THE SAME POSITION ADAM SCHIFF

  • HAD SIX WEEKS AGO.

  • REMEMBER WHEN THIS FIRST

  • HAPPENED ADAM SCHIFF SAID WE

  • NEED TO HEAR FROM THE

  • WHISTLEBLOWER.

  • THEN, SIX WEEKS LATER, NO, NO,

  • WE DON'T.

  • WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SIX-WEEK

  • TIME FRAME.

  • NAMELY WE HEARD ADAM SCHIFF'S

  • STAFF MET WITH THE

  • WHISTLEBLOWER.

  • WHEN THAT CAME OUT, SUDDENLY

  • CHANGED THEIR STORY.

  • THE IDEA WE IMPEACH THE

  • PRESIDENT 12 MONTHS BEFORE NEXT

  • ELECTION BASED ON A WHISTLE

  • BOYAR WITH BIAS AGAINST THE

  • PRESIDENT, WHO WORKED FOR

  • JOE BIDEN IS RIDICULOUS AND WE

  • DON'T QUESTION IMUNDER OATH AND

  • DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF BUYS THEY

  • MAY HAVE?

  • STEVE: APPARENTLY READY TO

  • ANSWER WRITTEN QUESTIONS.

  • >> THAT IS NOT GOING TO FLY.

  • STEVE: WHY?

  • >> HE NEEDS TO COME IN.

  • WHAT I SAID, YOU WANT TO LOOK

  • THE INDIVIDUAL IN THE EYE, ASK

  • HIM QUESTIONS SEE HOW THEY

  • RESPOND IN THE MOMENT, ANSWERING

  • QUESTIONS.

  • NOT JUST MEMBERS OF CONGRESS

  • HAVE, BUT FRANKLY 63 MILLION

  • AMERICANS, 100 MILLION AMERICANS

  • ARE TRYING TO OVERTURN THE

  • ELECTION WHO WE VOTED FOR.

  • BRIAN: THE TRANSCRIPTS, MIKE

  • McKINLEY, FORMER TOP AID TO

  • SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO

  • AND FORMER AMBASSADOR TO THE

  • UKRAINE, WERE CONCERNED ABOUT

  • OPERATION LED BY RUDY GIULIANI,

  • POLITICAL PURPOSES TO AFFECT

  • UKRAINIAN AMERICAN RELATIONS.

  • THEY WERE CONCERNED.

  • WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?

  • >> THEY'RE CONCERNED.

  • BUT REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT OF

  • THE UNITED STATES IS THE GUY WHO

  • IS IN CHARGE.

  • HE CAN HAVE WHOMEVER HE WANTS

  • TRYING TO MOVE POLICY FORWARD IN

  • THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE

  • COUNTRY.

  • STEVE: BEEN WORKING LIKE THAT A

  • VERY LONG TIME.

  • >> OFTEN TIMES PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF

  • THE DIPLOMATIC CORE WILL DO

  • DIPLOMATIC MISSIONS FOR THE

  • COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF.

  • THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

  • THEY DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE

  • THAT.

  • THAT IS THE PRESIDENT'S CALL.

  • THERE IS FUNDAMENTAL CONCERN

  • FROM SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE

  • DIPLOMATIC AREA SOMEHOW

  • UNELECTED PEOPLE TELL THE

  • ELECTED PERSON WHAT TO DO.

  • THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS IN OUR

  • GREAT QUESTION.

  • THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

  • STATES IS ONE WE THE PEOPLE WHO

  • ELECTED.

  • HE IS ONE WHO DETERMINESES

  • POLICY.

  • HE CAN DECIDE WHO IS THE

  • AMBASSADORS AND DOT DIPLOMATIC

  • MISSIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

  • AINSLEY: HOW DOES THIS PLAY OUT?

  • YOU MIGHT QUESTION ADAM SCHIFF

  • AND QUESTION THE WHISTLE-BLOWER

  • BUT IT IS UP TO THE DEMOCRATS

  • BECAUSE ADAM SCHIFF IS IN

  • CHARGE.

  • REALISTICALLY THAT WILL NOT

  • HAPPEN.

  • HOW WILL THIS ALL PLAY OUT?

  • >> THEY PASSED A RESOLUTION.

  • I SAID IT IS RIBBON ON A SHAM

  • PROCESS.

  • IT IS STILL A SHAM PROCESS.

  • ADAM SCHIFF IS STILL IN CONTROL.

  • WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A WITNESS

  • LIST.

  • ADAM SCHIFF DECIDES IF THEY COME

  • OR NOT.

  • HE IS IN CHARGE.

  • I DON'T THINK HE WILL TESTIFY.

  • I THINK HE SHOULD.

  • HE STILL DETERMINES WHO

  • WITNESSES ARE.

  • HOW THIS ALL OPERATES.

  • BRIAN: LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.

  • IN THE BIG PICTURE YOU CAN SIT

  • THERE AND SAY THE PROCESS A

  • PROBLEM.

  • YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO GO WITH.

  • YOU COULD SAY PEOPLE ARE

  • EMBEDDED IN THE STATE.

  • YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO GO WITH

  • THERE.

  • YOU COULD SAY, WHY WAS THE

  • PRESIDENT LOOKING TO UKRAINE.

  • WAS THERE A REASON?