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  • I was there to do a job, but I was still nervous about being found out or making mistakes.

  • So this is the jacket I'll be wearing.

  • It's quilted, which is good when it is the hottest day of the year.

  • So you have got to basically block her path.

  • That girl...

  • I don't know. I don't know, man.

  • You can, you can.

  • I think she seems - she's too young for me, man.

  • It doesn't matter. Even if she is underage, it is not illegal to stop someone.

  • I'll try someone else. I feel uncomfortable. Pick someone else for me.

  • That was a good target.

  • I know, I just think she's - I don't know - she seems too young.

  • Not for me.

  • I have to show that I am interested, and engaged, and agreeing with what they say

  • when internally, I'm thinking about my sister, cousins.

  • If they were to bump into these guys, would they be using that on them?

  • The more she relaxes in your environment, the more likely she is going to stay there longer.

  • Taking off their shoes. Some girls can be annoying. If they are already in their shoes

  • and their jacket she will be like 'OK, nah, that's enough for tonight.

  • We will leave the rest for next time'.

  • Obviously, that can sometimes be frustrating.

  • They want lots of... a written permission slip from her that's it's OK that we go all the way.

  • It is a nuance, obviously. You have to feel out the right moment

  • and sometimes it is your job to push things forward and lead.

  • It is basically ways in which you can easily sleep with someone

  • when they don't seem that keen. So that whole conversation, which lasted

  • hours was so uncomfortable.

  • I'm Myles, nice to meet you.

  • Myles. Michael. Michael?

  • Yeah.

  • Myles! I loved that. Nice.

  • I was just like... it is a good nickname, but it is not a very good one for an opener

  • is it?

  • She made you feel like a kid again, right?

  • My stomach just seemed to drop. I was thinking right, what am I going to say now?

  • They know I've got my name wrong, I'm in a conversation with someone else

  • so while having that conversation I was having to think of what my excuse is going to be.

  • As soon as I saw the security tables going into the British Museum,

  • I just thought 'This is it,I'm caught'.

  • They were emptying jackets. If they were to do that to me,they would have seen everything.

  • Let me put this microphone on you.

  • They decided they wanted to mic me so they could hear my conversations with the

  • women that we approached,

  • and they just so happened to want to put that mic on me themselves,

  • and they chose the one place where I already had a mic.

  • As you can imagine, that was a really stressful moment. They are rooting about in this pocket

  • which I know if they root around in there long enough they are going to feel cables

  • etc,

  • but luckily my glasses case was in there so I got away with it.

  • It was like being caught directly in-between fight and flight mode.

  • I wasn't hungry, I didn't need to go to the toilet, all I did was drink water all weekend.

  • I think I was just constantly on edge.

  • Hi Eddie, I'm Myles Bonnar from the BBC.

  • We actually help men. If anything, we prevent rape culture so men have the skills to not

  • have to

  • to get involved in anything illegal or anything non-consensual.

  • You are telling your students that they should approach teenagers.

  • Not true, not true. The thing that I teach is exactly this. Find out how old the girl is

  • before you do anything sexual.

  • You were teaching men how to pressurise women into having sex.

  • Last-minute resistance?

  • That's not true, no, no, no.

  • You don't remember that, no?

  • No, no, that's not true.

  • You have done nothing wrong?

  • Correct.

  • And you don't think you are breaking the law?

  • Of course not.

  • It is hard to kind of sum up the feeling. It was, I suppose, a mix of excitement and

  • anxiety,

  • because you are just constantly on edge. But you know you are there to do a job so that

  • part of it does make you feel quite determined to get the things that you set out to do.

I was there to do a job, but I was still nervous about being found out or making mistakes.

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