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  • - This episode of Nerdist News is sponsored

  • by VUDU's viewing party of Spider-Man: Far From Home.

  • Is the Marvel television universe dead?

  • Everything is connected, that used to be what fans

  • were told about how the Marvel Cinematic Universe

  • and Marvel's television series tied into each other.

  • We were promised a rich, shared world

  • where what happened on the ground level with TV heroes

  • would tie into and be reflected by what happened

  • on movie screens with Avengers-level threats.

  • And for a brief time, things seemed hunky-dory with that.

  • Marvel TV's flagship series, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.,

  • definitely reacted to things that happened

  • in the MCU, most notably the shocking turn of events

  • in Captain America: The Winter Soldier,

  • where it was revealed that S.H.I.E.L.D.

  • had been infiltrated by HYRDA and ended

  • with the spy organization collapsing.

  • However, the love was never really reciprocated

  • by the Marvel films.

  • Threat after threat came to New York City

  • with nary a Defender to be spotted on the big screen.

  • For every mention of the Incident in Daredevil,

  • AKA the Chitari invasion of the Big Apple,

  • there was only silence from the Avengers

  • in regard to their Hells' Kitchen counterparts.

  • And let's not even get into Inhumans.

  • The project that started as an MCU film,

  • but ended up being the short-lived TV show

  • that was practically canceled five minutes

  • into the first episode.

  • Sorry, Black Bolt.

  • However, while the MCU and Marvel Television

  • never outright contradicted each other,

  • the two sides have also never played together

  • like fans had hoped they would,

  • and now rumors are swirling that the future

  • of Marvel Television might be at risk

  • of getting snapped away by Thanos himself.

  • With insiders reporting that Marvel Studios

  • might be taking over all future Marvel offerings for TV.

  • But is Marvel Television really dead?

  • Let's take a look at both sides of the equation.

  • First, let's define what exactly

  • constitutes Marvel Television.

  • Marvel TV, run by Jeph Loeb, is a separate entity

  • from Marvel Studios, where Marvel TV still reports

  • to Marvel comics head, Ike Perlmutter,

  • Kevin Feige at Marvel Studios reports directly

  • to Disney itself.

  • Marvel TV is made up of shows

  • like ABC's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter,

  • Fox's and FX's shows like The Gifted and Legion,

  • Hulu's Runaways, Freeform's Cloak and Dagger,

  • and the various Netflix Marvel series.

  • And the MCU is, well, it's the MCU.

  • We should all know the films by now.

  • The first bit of evidence is that there isn't much left

  • on the Marvel TV slate of projects.

  • Their big hits like Legion and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

  • have either ended or are preparing to end.

  • Netflix has canceled all of their Marvel shows,

  • and with the costumes and props

  • having been sold off, it's safe to assume those versions

  • of the characters are donezo.

  • And while Marvel Television is still developing

  • a Helstrom series for Hulu, it was recently announced

  • that the Ghost Rider series that was also being developed

  • was canceled, the rumor being

  • is that it was so the character

  • can be used in the MCU instead.

  • What Marvel Television still has though are Runaways

  • and Cloak and Dagger, both of which seem

  • to be going strong, perhaps because they cater

  • to their younger audiences in a fun, authentic way.

  • But the most damning evidence that Marvel TV

  • is in trouble isn't just the fact that Kevin Feige

  • and Marvel Studios are making shows

  • based on their popular film characters,

  • but that they are also tackling shows with characters

  • that haven't made a feature film debut,

  • like Ms. Marvel and Moon Knight.

  • With Marvel Studios stepping

  • into the streaming television game,

  • this means that they are now a direct competitor

  • with Marvel TV.

  • And that's just not sustainable.

  • It wouldn't be shocking for one of them

  • to eventually fade away into nothingness,

  • and it's easy to guess which of the two that could be.

  • In regards to all of this, one TV literary agent

  • told Variety, "Feige's shows are so far

  • "beyond anything Marvel TV has been able to do.

  • "He has access to all of these MCU characters

  • "that the other Marvel live-action stuff just doesn't,

  • "not to mention way bigger budgets."

  • However, Variety also reported, "A Marvel Television insider

  • "told Variety that the company

  • "has several live-action projects

  • "at various stages of development.

  • "A spokesperson for Marvel Television

  • "declined to comment.

  • "Marvel Studios did not respond

  • "to a request for a comment."

  • Looking at all the all the evidence,

  • it does seem that Kevin Feige and Marvel Studios

  • will be taking the reigns on most Marvel live-action shows

  • from now on, but this doesn't mean the end

  • for Marvel Television as an entity.

  • Marvel TV is still working on several animated projects

  • for Hulu, based on Marvel characters,

  • like MODOK and Howard the Duck.

  • This seems to be a safe direction for them to go in

  • by making their own animated universe

  • that is separate from the MCU

  • using characters that might not work in live-action,

  • and of course, this only pertains to Disney-owned

  • and licensed Marvel characters.

  • We know that Sony's developing several television shows

  • with Phil Lord and Chris Miller

  • for the Marvel characters they own the rights to.

  • Spider-Man and his amazing friends and enemies.

  • So there still will be other Marvel TV shows,

  • but from other companies instead of from multiples companies

  • under the Disney umbrella.

  • But what do you folks think?

  • Is Marvel Television fading away?

  • What Marvel TV show would you want to see

  • under the Marvel Studios umbrella,

  • and are you looking forward

  • to Sony's upcoming Marvel TV shows?

  • Let's discuss.

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