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  • BRIAN: LONG ANTICIPATED, HE

  • IS FINALLY HERE, CONGRESSMAN

  • JIM JORDAN, MEMBER OF THE

  • HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE,

  • RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE

  • OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND

  • MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME,

  • CONGRESSMAN, THINGS ARE

  • CHANGING SO QUICKLY WITH THE

  • CLOSED DOOR SESSIONS WITH

  • THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.

  • WHERE YOU GUYS CAN'T ASK ANY

  • QUESTIONS AND THE PRESIDENT

  • CAN'T GET REPRESENTED.

  • AND WE DON'T GET

  • TRANSCRIPTS.

  • AFTER THURSDAY'S VOTE, WHAT

  • CHANGES?

  • >> WELL, I DON'T THINK

  • ANYTHING.

  • AND TO YOUR LIST, BRIAN,

  • IT'S ALSO ALL DONE IN SECRET

  • IN A BUNKER IN THE BASEMENT

  • OF THE CAPITAL.

  • SO I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS

  • GOING TO CHANGE.

  • AND FRANKLY, EVEN IF THEY

  • TRIED TO CHANGE SOMETHING TO

  • GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF DUE

  • PROCESS, WE ARE ALL STILL

  • GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS

  • BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A SHAM

  • AND BEEN SUCH A SHAM FROM

  • THE BEGINNING.

  • SO, YEAH, I DON'T THINK --

  • AND YOU CAN'T UNDO WHAT THEY

  • HAVE ALREADY DONE.

  • WE HAVE HAD THESE 8

  • DEPOSITIONS NOW.

  • THEY HAVE BEEN LEAKING

  • SELECTIVE PARTS OF IT.

  • HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING ANY

  • TYPE OF BASIC DUE PROCESS.

  • SO, YOU CAN'T UNDO WHAT THEY

  • HAVE DONE.

  • I THINK THIS IS JUST ONE

  • MORE KIND OF MAKE IT UP AS

  • YOU GO ALONG EXAMPLE.

  • AND IT'S ALL BEEN DONE IN

  • SECRET WITH THESE SECRET

  • LEAKS.

  • SO IT'S A CONTINUATION OF

  • THE -- THEY ARE GOING TO

  • DRESS IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

  • AINSLEY: GO ON THE RECORD.

  • SHE IS CALLING IT A

  • FORMALIZED IMPEACHMENT

  • INQUIRY.

  • IT ESTABLISHES PROCEDURE AND

  • AFFIRMS INVESTIGATIONS.

  • >> YEAH.

  • I THINK THE REASON SHE IS

  • GOING TO HAVE THIS VOTE

  • BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

  • UNDERSTAND IT IS SHAM.

  • THEY UNDERSTAND IT ISN'T

  • FAIR.

  • THE IDEA THAT THE PRESIDENT

  • DOESN'T GET COUNSEL IN THE

  • ROOM.

  • THE PEOPLE FROM THE STATE

  • DEPARTMENT DON'T GET AGENCY

  • COUNSEL.

  • WE CAN'T SEE THE TRANSCRIPT

  • UNLESS WE MAKE A SPECIAL

  • APPOINTMENT AND SOME

  • DEMOCRATS IN THE ROOM AS YOU

  • ARE REVIEWING THE

  • TRANSCRIPT.

  • AND THEY GET TO SELECTIVELY

  • LEAK THINGS BECAUSE WE

  • FOLLOW THE RULES AND THEY

  • DON'T.

  • THIS IS ALL A RIDICULOUS

  • UNFAIR AND PARTISAN PROCESS.

  • AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SEE

  • THROUGH IT.

  • SO I THINK THE SPEAKER IS

  • GOING TO TRY TO DRESS IT UP

  • A LITTLE BIT.

  • PUT A LITTLE LIPSTICK ON THE

  • PIG AS THEY SAY AND INTEREST

  • THIS VOTE ON THURSDAY.

  • IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE

  • ANYTHING.

  • I THINK YOU WILL SEE EVERY

  • SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTE

  • AGAINST IT.

  • STEVE: THIS IS VINDICATION.

  • THEY SAYING LEGITIMATE WE

  • NEED TO HAVE THE VOTE ON IT.

  • WITH THE VOTE, THAT'S GOING

  • TO PUT SOME OF YOUR

  • COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE AISLE

  • IN THE HOT SEAT BECAUSE

  • THEY, ESSENTIALLY, WILL HAVE

  • TO GO ON THE RECORD WITH

  • THIS PROXY VOTE ABOUT TRUMP

  • AND IMPEACHMENT AND NEXT

  • NOVEMBER THAT MIGHT NOT BE

  • GOOD FOR THEM.

  • >> YEAH.

  • THINK ABOUT NEXT NOVEMBER.

  • THESE 31 DEMOCRATS IN

  • CONGRESSIONAL SEATS THAT

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP WON IN 2016.

  • IF THEY VOTE FOR THIS NEXT

  • FALL, LESS THAN 13 MONTHS

  • FROM NOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING

  • TO WALK IN THE VOTING BOOTH,

  • VOTE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND

  • THEN THE NEXT DECISION THEY

  • HAVE TO MAKE IS WHO DO I

  • WANT TO SUPPORT FOR

  • CONGRESS?

  • AND THEY WILL BE THINKING I

  • DO REALLY WANT TO VOTE FOR

  • THE PERSON WHO JUST VOTED TO

  • IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT OF THE

  • UNITED STATES 13 MONTHS

  • BEFORE AN ELECTION BASED ON

  • SOME ANONYMOUS WHISTLEBLOWER

  • WITH NO FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE

  • WHO HAD A BIAS AGAINST THE

  • PRESIDENT AND WORKED WITH

  • JOE BIDEN?

  • I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO

  • THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT

  • THAT.

  • WE WILL SEE.

  • THEY ARE SO FAR DOWN THIS

  • ROAD.

  • I ASSUME THE DEMOCRATS ARE

  • GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS AND

  • CONTINUE THIS, AGAIN, THIS

  • UNFAIR AND PARTISAN PROCESS.

  • BRIAN: THE "WALL STREET

  • JOURNAL" SAYS THIS VOTE

  • SHOWS THAT THE CRITICS OF

  • THE PROCESS ARE VINDICATED.

  • BECAUSE NOW IT LOOKS LIKE

  • THE PRESIDENT COULD BE

  • GETTING DUE PROCESS BUT YOU

  • ARE NOT OPTIMISTIC.

  • SO WHAT'S GOING TO BE

  • HAPPENING TODAY?

  • LIEUTENANT COLONEL ALEXANDER

  • VINMAN IS GOING TO BE COMING

  • FORWARD.

  • HE'S A MEMBER OF THE

  • NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL.

  • AND HE WAS DIRECTOR FOR

  • EUROPEAN AFFAIRS.

  • AND HE IS UPSET BY TWO

  • SEPARATE INCIDENTS WHICH HE

  • COMPLAINED ABOUT, ONE IN

  • EARLY JULY AND THE CALL ON

  • JULY 25TH.

  • FROM HIS PREPARED

  • STATEMENTS, WHAT SHOULD WE

  • KNOW FROM IT?

  • >> WELL, AGAIN, REMEMBER, WE

  • HAVE NOW HEARD FROM EIGHT

  • WITNESSES.

  • LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINMAN

  • WILL COME IN TODAY.

  • NONE OF THEM HAVE CHANGED

  • THE FUNDAMENTAL FACTS.

  • THE FUNDAMENTAL FACTS HAVE

  • ALWAYS BEEN THERE WE HAVE

  • SEEN THE CALL TRANSCRIPT.

  • NO CONDITIONS PLACED IN THE

  • CALL BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP