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  • >> IF HE TAKES THE RISK OF GOING

  • TO TRIAL AND HE IS CONVICTED

  • THAT COULD BE SEEN AS AN

  • IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.

  • >> IF HE IS NOT A LEGITIMATELY

  • ELECTED PRESIDENT IN YOUR MIND

  • THERE ARE TOOLS THAT CONGRESS

  • HAS.

  • >> I THINK WE'RE IN IMPEACHMENT

  • TERRITORY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

  • >> IN YOUR VIEW DOES THAT RISE

  • TO THE LEVEL OF AN IMPEACHABLE

  • OFFENSE.

  • >> WHATEVER THE WHITE HOUSE

  • THOUGHT IT WAS DOING TO DEFEND

  • ITSELF OR FEND OFF

  • IMPEACHMENT --

  • >> IMPEACHMENT.

  • STEVE: THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING

  • ABOUT IMPEACHMENT.

  • JASON CHAFFETZ FORMER HOUSE

  • GOVERNMENT REFORM COMMITTEE AND

  • AUTHOR OF A NEW BOOK, THE

  • LIBERAL SCREAM TO UNDERMINE

  • TRUMP, THE GOP AND OUR REPUBLIC.

  • THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING

  • IMPEACHMENT.

  • NANCY PELOSI IS TALKING ABOUT

  • INQUIRY, WHY HAVEN'T THEY HAD A

  • VOTE?

  • >> THE VOTE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

  • NANCY PELOSI GOES BEFORE THE

  • WORLD IT IS INFORMAL IMPEACHMENT

  • INQUIRY BUT SHE DOESN'T HAVE A

  • VOTE.

  • BECAUSE IT FAILED THREE TIMES F

  • THEY DID HAVE A VOTE, MINORITY

  • COULD GET RIGHTS.

  • THEY WOULD HAVE SUBPOENA

  • AUTHORITY.

  • NANCY PELOSI DOES NOT WANT DOUG

  • COLLINS, THE MINORITY MEMBER

  • ABOUT, THE RANKING MEMBER ON

  • HOUSE JUDICIARY TO ALSO TO

  • DEFEND AND TO HAVE SUBPOENA

  • AUTHORITY.

  • STEVE: RIGHT NOW IT IS LOPSIDED.

  • >> IT IS LOPSIDED.

  • THEY WANT TO ISSUE SUBPOENAS,

  • WANT TO DO ALL THIS, BUT DON'T

  • WANT TO GIVE THE MINORITY TO

  • ACTUALLY DO THE SAME THING.

  • THAT IS WHY SHE REFUSES TO DO

  • THAT.

  • AINSLEY: IF HE IS ABLE TO DO

  • THAT, WHEN HE IS ABLE TO DO

  • THAT, WHO WILL BE SUBPOENAING?

  • >> A WHOLE HOST THE PEOPLE.

  • HUNTER BIDEN SHOULD BE BROUGHT

  • IN.

  • YOU COULD GO THROUGH A WHOLE

  • LIST OF THINGS.

  • LET'S FIND OUT, DO SOME

  • INVESTIGATION.

  • SOMETIME FOR REPUBLICANS TO PLAY

  • OFFENSE.

  • REPUBLICANS ARE USED TO

  • APOLOGIZING AND TRYING TO

  • JUSTIFY.

  • NANCY PELOSI AND THE DEMOCRATS

  • THEY'RE ALWAYS PLAYING OFFENSE

  • BUT NANCY PELOSI KNOWS THAT SHE

  • HAS GOT TO WITHHOLD THAT ABILITY

  • OF THE REPUBLICANS TO ACTUALLY

  • DO WHAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO

  • DO IS CREATE THE OTHER SIDE OF

  • THE CASE.

  • BRIAN: RIGHT AWAY THEY WERE

  • TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHMENT ALMOST

  • IMMEDIATELY AFTER BUT NOTHING

  • WOULD RISE TO THAT LEVEL.

  • WHY DO YOU THINK THIS UKRAINIAN

  • CONVERSATION, EVERYONE SEEMED TO

  • BE IN SYNC FROM CERTAIN MEDIA

  • OUTLETS TO SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE,

  • BEFORE THE CALL WAS RELEASED,

  • BEFORE THE NINE-PAGE COMPLAINT

  • WAS OUT?

  • >> IT IS A LITTLE TOO CONVENIENT

  • THEY HAD A PERFECTLY DRAFFED

  • DOCUMENT.

  • YOU HAD A SPEAKER WHO SAID ON

  • "60 MINUTES" HAD A PREVIEW OF

  • IT.

  • VANYA

  • ADAM SCHIFF SAID HE KNEW

  • IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLEBLOWER.

  • IT'S A LITTLE TOO CONVENIENT.

  • INSPECTOR HOROWITZ AND DURHAM

  • COMING OUT.

  • BRIAN: WITH A COUNTER NARRATIVE

  • ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION OF

  • DONALD TRUMP BUT THIS, THEY HOPE

  • PUN INTENDED TRUMPS THAT?

  • >> WELL LOOK, IF ADAM SCHIFF

  • REALLY HAD THE GOODS ON THE

  • PRESIDENT HE WOULD HAVE LED WITH

  • THAT.

  • INSTEAD, HE TO EMBELLISH WHAT

  • THE PRESIDENT SAID, LIE ABOUT

  • IT.

  • BY THE WAY THE HOUSE SHOULD

  • STAND UP FOR ITSELF.

  • KEVIN AMERICA CART THINK SHOULD

  • DEMAND SHOULD HAVE TAKEN WORDS

  • DOWN IN THAT COMMITTEE.

  • YOU CANNOT DISPARAGE THE

  • PRESIDENT.

  • YOU CANNOT ADDRESS THE

  • PRESIDENT.

  • THERE ARE HOUSE RULES THEY

  • SHOULD GO AFTER THIS GUY, HE

  • SHOULD BE CENSURED SCHIFF

  • SHOULD.

  • BRIAN: WHAT GUY?

  • >> SCHIFF.

  • HE DID THE PARODY EMBELLISHED.

  • HE LIED ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT

  • SAID.

  • I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS TREASON.

  • IT IS IN VIOLATION OF HOUSE

  • RULES.

  • THEY SHOULD CALL IT OUT AND PASS

  • ON THAT.

  • BRIAN: HE WAS READING FROM A

  • PAPER AS IF IT WAS DIALOGUE.

  • >> THIS WAS HIGHLY SCRIPTED.

  • THIS WAS NOT SOME I AM PROBLEM

  • TU THING, HE DID IT ON PURPOSE

  • BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE ISN'T

  • THERE.

  • THE EVIDENCE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

  • THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE TO GO

  • OUT --

  • AINSLEY: WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

  • WHEN WILL THE VOTE HAPPEN.

  • >> SUCH URGENT NATIONAL CONCERN

  • THEY HAD TO GO ON RECESS FOR TWO

  • WEEKS SO DEMOCRATS CAN DO

  • POLLING TO FIGURE OUT, LET'S

  • FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING

  • NEXT.

  • BRIAN: 50/50 WHETHER THE PEOPLE

  • WANT IT.

  • >> I DON'T THINK SO.

  • STEVE: REALLY INTERESTING HOW

  • YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY DID NOT

  • TAKE A VOTE.

  • IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

  • CHECK AT HESS NEW BOOK.

  • IT IS CALLED, "POWER GRAB."

  • BRIAN: REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE

  • WHAT IS GOING ON NOW.

  • >> THIS IS CHAPTER ON

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