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  • MARIA:

  • WELCOME BACK.

  • I AM BACK WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP'S

  • PERSONAL ATTORNEY, FORMER NEW

  • YORK CITY MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI.

  • THERE ARE TESTIMONIES THAT ARE

  • GOING TO BE COMING.

  • WE KNOW THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE

  • LOOKING FOR BILL BARR TO RECUSE

  • HIMSELF.

  • THEY ARE LOOKING TO SUBPOENA,

  • THEY HAVE SUBPOENAED SECRETARY

  • OF STATE MIKE POMPEO.

  • HAVE YOU GOTTEN SUBPOENAED?

  • ARE YOU EXPECTING TO TESTIFY?

  • WHAT'S NEXT?

  • >> I HAVE NOT BEEN SUBPOENAED.

  • WHEN I AM OR IF THEY CALL ME AND

  • ASK ME IF I'LL TESTIFY

  • VOLUNTARILY, I'LL TALK ABOUT

  • THAT WITH MY CLIENTMENT THEY

  • TREAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AS IF HE

  • HAS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

  • I'M HIS ATTORNEY.

  • THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED

  • ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE THAT

  • HAS TO BE CONSIDERED EVEN IF

  • THEY DON'T THINK HE SHOULD HAVE

  • ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE.

  • WOULD I BE WILLING TO EXPLAIN

  • THIS OPENLY, DO DID ANYBODY DO

  • ANYTHING WRONG HERE?

  • ABSOLUTELY NOT.

  • THE ONLY THING DONE WRONG HERE

  • IS THE COVER-UP OF THESE CHARGES

  • FOR THREE YEARS THAT ARE VERY,

  • VERY SERIOUS.

  • THESE ARE VERY SERIOUS CHARGES,

  • AND THEY'RE BACKED UP BY SWORN

  • AFFIDAVITS, AND THEY'RE ONLINE.

  • AND THE WASHINGTON PRESS CORPS

  • TRYING TO PROTECT A BIDEN LIKE

  • THEY PROTECTED CLINTON THE, AND

  • BEYOND THAT THE PATTERN A

  • PATTERN OF PAY FOR PLAY.

  • IT INCLUDES SOMETHING VERY

  • SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED AT THE

  • CLINTON FOUNDATION WHICH GOES TO

  • THE VERY CORE OF WHAT DID OBAMA

  • KNOW AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT.

  • IN DECEMBER OF 2015, "THE NEW

  • YORK TIMES"ES WROTE AN ARTICLE,

  • SCATHING CRITICISM OF BIDEN FOR

  • PUTTING HIS SON IN THIS

  • CONFLICTED POSITION AND

  • COMPROMISING HIS ABILITY TO DEAL

  • WITH CORRUPTION.

  • WHICH, BY THE WAY, SHOULD BE A

  • CONCERN -- WAIT, WAIT, SHOULD BE

  • A CONCERN OF A FUTURE PRESIDENT.

  • QUESTION IS WHEN BIDEN AND OBAMA

  • SAW THAT ARTICLE ABOUT HOW THE

  • SON WAS PULLING DOWN MONEY FOR

  • THE MOST CROOKED OLIGARCH IN

  • RUSSIA, DID OBAMA CALL BIDEN IN

  • AND SAY, JOE, HOW COULD YOU BE

  • DOING THIS?

  • MARIA: YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

  • BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THE

  • DEMOCRATS HAVE THE MATTER IN THE

  • HOUSE.

  • THAT MEANS THEY HAVE SUBPOENA

  • POWER, THAT MEANS THEY ARE

  • RUNNING THE SHOW.

  • WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT

  • THEM?

  • THE FACT THAT THERE WAS

  • WRONGDOING DONE IN EARLY 2016,

  • THEY DON'T -- THEY'RE REFUSING

  • TO LOOK AT.

  • >> IT WOULD BE NICE IF I SAY TO

  • MY FELLOW REPUBLICAN, IT WOULD

  • BE NICE INSTEAD OF ATTACKING ME,

  • THE MESSENGER, WITHOUT KNOWING

  • WHAT REALLY IS INVOLVED, IF

  • YOU'D GIVE ME THE BENEFIT OF THE

  • DOUBT BEFORE YOU ATTACK ME, AND

  • YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT I HAVE.

  • MARIA: RIGHT.

  • >> HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT DON'T --

  • WE HAVE HEARINGS?

  • I MEAN, SUPPOSE IT WAS ALLEGED

  • THAT DONALD TRUMP JR. GOT $8

  • MILLION FROM A CROOKED OLIGARCH

  • IN UKRAINE?

  • HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR THE

  • DEMOCRATS TO INVESTIGATE US?

  • AND HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR

  • "THE WASHINGTON POST" AND THE

  • NEW YORK TIMES TO HAVE GLARING

  • HEADLINES?

  • UNTIL WE CURE THAT, WE'RE GOING

  • TO BE A DIVIDED COUNTRY.

  • MARIA: YEAH.

  • >> AND UNTIL OUR REPUBLICAN

  • FRIENDS REALIZE THAT WE'RE

  • REALLY NOT IN BAD FAITH, THAT

  • THIS IS REALLY SERIOUS AND THAT

  • I AM CONCERNED AS I HAVE BEEN

  • FROM THE TIME I WAS AN ASSISTANT

  • U.S. ATTORNEY, I FIND THE SALE

  • OF PUBLIC OFFICE TO BE

  • DISGUSTING.

  • AND THEY WEREN'T HIRING HUNTER

  • BIDEN.

  • THERE WERE A HUNDRED REASONS WHY

  • THEY WEREN'T HIRING HIM

  • INCLUDING THE FACT THAT HE'S A

  • TROUBLED YOUNG MAN WHO SHOULDN'T

  • HAVE BEEN PUT IN THAT POSITION.

  • THEY WERE BUYING JOE BIDEN, AND

  • IF HE DIDN'T SEE THAT, THEN HE'S

  • BLIND.

  • AND IF OBAMA DIDN'T DEAL WITH

  • IT, THEN HE'S -- IT'S NOT THE

  • KIND OF PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP

  • IS WHO TAKES ARTICLE II, SECTION

  • MARIA: I'M BACK WITH RUDY

  • GIULIANI.

  • DID PRESIDENT TRUMP HOLD BACK

  • AID TO UKRAINE BECAUSE HE WANTED

  • THEM TO INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN

  • AND HIS SON?

  • >> ISN'T THE BEST ANSWER TO THAT

  • THE TELEPHONE CONVERSATION?

  • ALTHOUGH THE DEMOCRATS SAID THAT

  • BEFORE IT CAME OUT, AND SCHIFF

  • PRETENDED THAT IT DID, LOOK AT

  • THE TRANSCRIPT.

  • IS THERE ANY MENTION OF MILITARY

  • AID?

  • NO.

  • DID HE HOLD BACK THE AID?

  • NO.

  • MARIA: DID YOU WORK WITH

  • OTHER --

  • >> I HAVE NEVER, IN MY

  • DISCUSSION --

  • MARIA: DID YOU WORK WITH OTHER

  • LAWYERS TO TRY TO GET DIRT ON

  • JOE BIDEN?

  • >> NO.

  • I DIDN'T WORK WITH ANYBODY TO

  • TRY TO GET DIRT ON JOE BIDEN.

  • THE DIRT ON JOE BIDEN WAS HANDED

  • TO ME BY THE UKRAINIANS, AMAZED

  • THAT THE FBI HADN'T ASKED FOR

  • THIS A YEAR EARLIER, COMPLETELY

  • SHOCKED AND WORRIED THAT OUR

  • SYSTEM OF JUSTICE WAS FLAWED.

  • BECAUSE JOE BIDEN ANNOUNCED IT

  • PUBLICLY.

  • AND IF YOU'RE A LAWYER AT ALL,

  • WHAT JOE BIDEN ANNOUNCED WAS HE

  • OFFERED SOMETHING OF VALUE, $1.2

  • BILLION LOAN GUARANTEE, IN ORDER

  • TO GET THE PROSECUTOR TO TAKE

  • OFFICIAL ACTION -- THAT'S THE

  • CRIME OF BRIBERY -- AND THE

  • MOTIVE IS IF YOU AT LEAST

  • INTERVIEW THE GUY TO COFFER UP

  • THE -- COVER UP THE CASE ON HIS

  • SON.

  • THERE WERE ALSO, BY THE WAY, I I

  • BELIEVE THREE OTHER AFFIDAVITS

  • OF DIFFERENT PROSECUTORS, SOME

  • OF THEM NOT FRIENDLY TO THIS

  • PROSECUTOR --

  • MARIA: RIGHT.

  • >> SAYING THE SAME THING.

  • THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE

  • INVESTIGATIONS FOR.