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  • THESE ALL GO TO BENEFIT THE

  • POLICE UNION CHARITY.

  • OUR DEMOCRATS BUILDING -- OR

  • WILL IT BACKFIRE?

  • FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR KARL ROVE

  • FOR MORE.

  • THANKS FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

  • >> THANKS, SHANNON.

  • >> Shannon: IF YOU HEARD

  • SENATOR MIKE LEE JUST A COUPLE

  • OF MINUTES AGO BLATANTLY

  • SHOOTING DOWN, MAKING NO

  • PRETENSE ABOUT IT THAT AS FAR AS

  • YOU CAN TELL THERE IS NO TALK OF

  • G.O.P. SENATORS COMING TOGETHER

  • TO GANG UP AND VOTE OUT THE

  • PRESIDENT SHOULD THE HOUSE

  • IMPEACHED HIM AND SEND IT OVER

  • TO THEM FOR A TRIAL.

  • WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT

  • CHATTER?

  • DO YOU THINK THERE'S NOTHING TO

  • IT?

  • >> I THINK IT MAY BE A DESPERATE

  • DESIRE ON THE PART OF SOME

  • DEMOCRATS AND COMMENTATORS TO

  • SEE IT HAPPEN, BUT I'VE BEEN

  • TALKING TO MEMBERS OF THE SENATE

  • AND I SEE ZERO CHANCE KNOWING

  • WHAT WE KNOW TODAY THAT THE

  • SENATE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO

  • PROVIDE 20 VOTES TO IMPEACH AND

  • REMOVE THE PRESIDENT FROM

  • OFFICE.

  • I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED ON THE

  • FINAL SENATE VOTE IF THERE

  • WEREN'T AS MANY DEMOCRATS OR

  • MORE DEMOCRATS VOTING IN SUPPORT

  • OF KEEPING THE PRESIDENT IN

  • OFFICE THAN THERE ARE VOTES TO

  • REMOVE IT.

  • >> Shannon: A LOT OF STEPS

  • BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THAT

  • SCENARIO.

  • IN THE MEANTIME, GOING OUT AND

  • TARGETING AND CAMPAIGNING IN

  • THESE PLACES WHERE SWING

  • DISTRICTS WHERE DEMOCRATS WON,

  • SEATS FORMERLY HELD BY

  • REPUBLICANS, THEY SAY THAT THE

  • WHITE HOUSE WANTS TO MAKE

  • VULNERABLE HOUSE DEMOCRATS PAY

  • FOR IMPEACHMENT.

  • DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS POINT

  • OUT, SUCCESSFULLY PROSECUTED A

  • SIMILAR CASE DURING HOUSE

  • G.O.P.-LED IMPEACHMENT OF

  • BILL CLINTON.

  • IT REPUBLICANS SUFFERED A NET

  • MIDTERM ELECTION, LOSING FIVE

  • CONGRESSIONAL SEATS.

  • WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE,

  • TWO OR THREE DOZEN PEOPLE WHO

  • ARE IN THIS PLACE.

  • HOW TOUGH A SPOT ARE THEY IN AS

  • THE SPEAKER MOVES FORWARD WITH

  • TALKS OF IMPEACHMENT?

  • >> THERE ARE 43 DEMOCRATS WHO

  • TODAY HOLD SEATS PREVIOUSLY HELD

  • BY REPUBLICANS.

  • 31 OF THEM ARE IN DISTRICTS THAT

  • DONALD TRUMP CARRIED.

  • 19 OF THEM IN DISTRICTS HE

  • CARRIED BY FOUR POINTS OR MORE.

  • IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT THAT TEN OF

  • THOSE 19 DEMOCRATS IN THE MORE

  • HEAVILY TRUMPED DISTRICTS HAVE

  • YET TO ENDORSE THE INQUIRY.

  • THIS IS A USEFUL THING TO DO,

  • BUT REALLY WHAT IT ULTIMATELY

  • WILL MATTER IS HOW THIS ISSUE

  • GETS RESOLVED.

  • IT REPUBLICANS GET A LOT OF

  • TRACTION IN THE EARLY PART OF

  • IMPEACHMENT.

  • IT WAS WHEN THE ISSUE BASICALLY

  • HAVE BEEN PRETTY WELL

  • SUBSTANTIALLY RESOLVED.

  • BUT MIKE PENCE IS THE RIGHT

  • MESSENGER BECAUSE THE RIGHT

  • MESSAGE IN THESE DISTRICTS IS

  • ONE THAT'S NOT ANGRY AND HARSH,

  • BUT ONE THAT IS SORROWFUL AND

  • SORT OF SHAKING THEIR HEAD AT

  • ONE OF THE DEMOCRATS DOING TO

  • OUR COUNTRY AND MIKE PENCE IS

  • GOING TO BE PARTICULARLY I THINK

  • EFFECTIVE IN DELIVERING THAT

  • MESSAGE.

  • >> Shannon: DEMOCRATS OF

  • COURSE ARE HOPING NOT.

  • A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE

  • DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CAMPAIGN

  • COMMITTEE SAYS THIS.

  • "AT EVERY STOP MICE THAT MIGHT

  • VICE PRESIDENT PANS MAKES YOU

  • WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR HIS

  • GROWING ROLE IN ANY CANDIDATE

  • THAT IS STILL WILLING TO APPEAR

  • PUBLICLY WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT

  • PRINCIPAL MADE IT CLEAR THAT

  • THEY ACCEPT THE WHOLESALE

  • EAGERNESS TO BETRAY THE OFFICE

  • OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT.

  • YOUR RESPONSE?

  • >> LOOK, THIS IS KIND OF

  • OVER-THE-TOP RHETORIC THAT IS

  • GOING TO BLOW UP IN HER FACE.

  • THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO

  • WHAT?

  • BETRAY THE COUNTRY?

  • AS I RECALL WHAT THIS HAD TO DO

  • WITH, HE SAID WOULD YOU LOOK

  • INTO THE ISSUE OF THE SERVER --

  • WOULD YOU ALLOW MY GUYS, MEANING

  • THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE

  • UNITED STATES AND THE VERY

  • RESPECTED INDEPENDENT

  • PROSECUTOR, U.S. ATTORNEY FROM

  • CONNECTICUT, JOHN DURHAM, TO

  • LOOK AT THE SERVER THAT THE

  • UKRAINIANS THAT WAS IN UKRAINE

  • THAT MAY HAVE BEEN USED BY THE

  • RUSSIANS TO STEAL

  • HILLARY CLINTON'S EMAILS.

  • AND WHAT YOU LOOK INTO THIS

  • FIGHT AND THINK YOU MIGHT DO

  • DEMOCRATS REALLY SAY THAT IT IS

  • A BETRAYAL OF OUR COUNTRY TO

  • RAISE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR

  • NOT JOE BIDEN WAS AWARE OF THE

  • APPARENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST

  • THAT EXISTED WHEN HE WENT TO

  • UKRAINE AND LECTURED THEM ON

  • CORRUPTION WHEN HIS SON WAS

  • SERVING ON THE BOARD OF A

  • SUSPECT STINKY --

  • >> Shannon: YOU KNOW WHAT THEY

  • SAY, THAT'S COMPLETELY DEBUNKED

  • AND THERE IS NO MERIT TO IT.

  • >> WAIT A MINUTE.

  • IT'S NOT DEBUNKED.

  • WE KNOW FOR A FACT CERTAIN THAT

  • HE WAS ON THE BOARD OF A COMPANY

  • THAT WAS STINKY AND WE KNOW THAT

  • THAT COMPANY WAS A SOURCE OF

  • CONCERN TO THE UKRAINIANS AND

  • THE ONLY REASON THEY HIRED

  • JOE BIDEN AND DEVON ARCHER --

  • EXCUSE ME, JOE BIDEN'S SON AND

  • DEVON ARCHER, A CLOSE COMPATRIOT

  • OF THE THEN SECRETARY OF STATE

  • JOHN KERRY, WAS SO THE NATURAL

  • GAS COMPANY SO THAT THEY HAD

  • JUICE WITH WASHINGTON, D.C.

  • WHAT BETTER WAY TO PROTECT

  • YOURSELF AND TO GET A GUIDE WAS

  • A LONGTIME CONFIDANT OF THE

  • SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE SON

  • OF THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE

  • UNITED STATES?

  • NEITHER OF WHOM HAD EXPERIENCE

  • IN UKRAINE, NEITHER OF THEM KNEW

  • ANYTHING ABOUT THE NATURAL GAS

  • BUSINESS.

  • I USED TO SPEND TIME IN THE

  • FORMER SOVIET UNION, I WAS IN

  • THE BOARD FOR INTERNATIONAL

  • BROADCASTING THAT OVERSAW RADIO

  • FREE EUROPE AND RADIO LIBERTY

  • AND IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE FALL

  • OF THE IRON CURTAIN, THIS IS

  • WHAT PEOPLE IN CENTRAL EUROPE

  • AND RUSSIA DID IN ORDER TO

  • PROTECT THEMSELVES.

  • THEY HIRED AMERICANS TO BE IN

  • VERY VISIBLE POSITIONS, JUST

  • LIKE PAUL MANAFORT WAS HIRED BY

  • SOME OF THE UKRAINIAN OLIGARCHS,

  • PUTIN'S MAN IN UKRAINE.

  • SO WE KNOW THIS.

  • THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE

  • BEEN ALLEGED THAT ARE NOT TRUE,

  • BUT WE DO KNOW FOR A FACT

  • CERTAIN THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT

  • OF THE UNITED STATES WENT OVER

  • THERE TO LECTURE UKRAINIANS ON

  • CORRUPTION WHILE HIS SON WAS ON

  • THE BOARD OF A COMPANY THAT WAS

  • SUSPECT.

  • >> Shannon: THERE ARE A

  • HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN

  • DIGGING INTO THIS AND IT SEEMS

  • LIKE A COUPLE OF OTHERS ARE

  • WAKING UP AND GETTING INTERESTED

THESE ALL GO TO BENEFIT THE

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