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  • STEVE: OKAY.

  • SO THERE IS THE PRESIDENT

  • YESTERDAY, HE WAS BRINGING

  • REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN FROM

  • THE GREAT STATE OF

  • CALIFORNIA, DEVIN NUNES.

  • RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE

  • INTEL COMMITTEE.

  • SIR, GREAT TO HAVE YOU.

  • THIS STORY ABOUT THE BIDENS

  • HAS BEEN PERCOLATING, YOU

  • KNOW, JUST BELOW THE SURFACE

  • IN WASHINGTON FOR A WHILE.

  • >> THAT'S RIGHT.

  • IT'S THE ONLY THE LEAST BEST

  • KEPT SECRET IN WASHINGTON.

  • JOHN SOLOMON FROM THE HILL

  • HAS HAD THIS FOR MONTHS AND

  • MONTHS AND MONTHS.

  • NUMEROUS STORIES ABOUT IT.

  • RUDY GIULIANI HAS BEEN ON

  • EVERY MAINSTREAM MEDIA NEWS

  • SHOW SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

  • UKRAINES HAVE BEEN COMING TO

  • CONGRESS MEETING WITH

  • NUMEROUS MEMBERS OF

  • CONGRESS.

  • THEY CLAIM THEY HAVE

  • DOCUMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE

  • AN INTEREST IN THAT RELATE

  • TO THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

  • AS IT RELATES TO THIS BLACK

  • LEDGER, SOME PEOPLE HAVE

  • HEARD OF THIS AND THEY CLAIM

  • THAT'S DISINFORMATION.

  • AND THEY ALSO CLAIM THAT

  • THIS CONTRACT WITH BIDEN'S

  • SON WAS A PROBLEM.

  • SO, THE IDEA THAT YOU FAST

  • FORWARD ALL THE WAY TO LATE

  • JULY THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

  • WOULD HAVE SOME CONVERSATION

  • TRYING TO PRESSURE THE

  • UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT DOESN'T

  • ADD UP.

  • BECAUSE EVERYONE KNEW IT

  • INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT'S

  • OWN PERSONAL LAWYER RUDY

  • GIULIANI.

  • BRIAN: THE QUESTION IS GOING

  • TO THE "THE WASHINGTON

  • POST."

  • THE WHISTLEBLOWER EVIDENTLY

  • IS SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY

  • WHILE IS HE WAITING TO FIND

  • OUT IF HE CAN SPEAK TO YOUR

  • COMMITTEE, ADAM SCHIFF NOW

  • CHAIRS.

  • HE SAID 8 TIMES THE

  • PRESSURE -- THE PRESIDENT

  • BROUGHT IT UP.

  • AND, IN TURN, MYSTERIOUSLY

  • THE AID, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

  • WAS HELD UP TO UKRAINE

  • MYSTERIOUSLY BETWEEN JULY

  • AND AUGUST.

  • THEY WONDER IF THERE WAS A

  • LINK.

  • WOULD IT BOTHER IF YOU THERE

  • WAS A LINK BETWEEN THAT?

  • >> WELL, I THINK IT IS VERY

  • TOUGH TO SPECULATE.

  • BUT I WANT TO GO BACK AND

  • JUST, YOU KNOW, REITERATE

  • WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

  • THE UKRAINIANS WERE TRYING

  • TO GIVE US THIS INFORMATION

  • THERE WOULD BE NO REASON

  • WHY -- THEY JUST WANT TO

  • GIVE IT TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE

  • IN OUR GOVERNMENT ACE

  • UNDERSTOOD IT.

  • SO, IN THE RIGHT PLACE TO

  • SEND THAT INFORMATION WOULD

  • BE THE DEPARTMENT OF

  • JUSTICE.

  • AINSLEY: AMERICANS ARE

  • NOT -- WE DON'T TRUST OTHER

  • COUNTRIES.

  • UKRAINE, CAN WE EVEN TRUST

  • WHAT THEY SAY.

  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MAN

  • WHO IS RUNNING FOR

  • PRESIDENT.

  • HE WAS OUR VICE PRESIDENT.

  • HE HAS ADMITTED ON CAMERA

  • THAT HE WANTED TO FIRE THIS

  • PROSECUTOR.

  • HE ENDED UP FIRING HIM

  • WITHIN SEVERAL HOURS.

  • AND THEN HE SAYS HE NEVER

  • TALKED TO HIS SON ABOUT HIS

  • SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS

  • ENDEAVORS.

  • BUT THEN HIS SON TELLS THE

  • NEW YORKER MAGAZINE YES, I

  • DID TALK TO MY DAD ABOUT IT

  • ONCE.

  • WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND

  • WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

  • ISN'T THAT THE REAL ABUSE OF

  • POWER OR IS THE PRESIDENT

  • HAVING THIS CONVERSATION?

  • >> WELL, THE VERY THING THEY

  • ARE ACCUSING PRESIDENT TRUMP

  • OF DOING, BIDEN DID.

  • AND ADMITTED THAT HE DID.

  • SO, AND I JUST GO BACK TO

  • IT, WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?

  • THIS IS A WHISTLE BLOWER AS

  • YOU SAID, BRIAN, THAT

  • SUPPOSEDLY WANTS TO REMAIN

  • SECRET.

  • YET, ALL HIS SECRETS, HIS OR

  • HER SECRETS ARE SPILLING OUT

  • IN THE PAGES OF THE "NEW

  • YORK TIMES," "THE WASHINGTON

  • POST," NBC NEWS.

  • WE HAVE NO IDEA.

  • THIS COULD NOT EVEN BE ABOUT

  • UKRAINE.

  • WE HAVE SEEN ABSOLUTELY

  • NOTHING.

  • WE GOT BRIEFED LAST WEEK

  • FROM THE ICIG CAME AND MET

  • WITH US.

  • DIDN'T TELL US ANY

  • INFORMATION.

  • SO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO MEET

  • WITH WEEK WITH THE ACTING

  • D&I.

  • MAYBE WE WILL GET MORE

  • INFORMATION URGE.

  • BRIAN: THIS IS WHAT THE

  • PRESIDENT WAS REFERRING.

  • TO SAY KNOW HE WHAT THE

  • CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT.

  • I THINK THERE WAS NO

  • PRESSURE.

  • THIS CONVERSATION WAS LONG.

  • IT WAS FRIENDLY.

  • IT TOUCHED ON MANY

  • QUESTIONS, SOMETIMES

  • REQUIRING SERIOUS ANSWERS.

  • THEY ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE

  • UKRAINIANS NEED OUR MONEY SO

  • MUCH AND SUPPORT SO MUCH

  • THEY DON'T WANT TO GET

  • INVOLVED IN AMERICAN

  • POLITICS.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • BRIAN: THEY ARE FRONT AND

  • CENTER.

  • BIG STORY WITH UKRAINE IS

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA LET THEM GET

  • CAUGHT UP WITH THE RUSSIANS

  • AND GAVE THEM BLANKETS AND

  • MREs AND THIS PRESIDENT

  • GAVE THEM LETHAL WEAPONS TO

  • DEFEND THEMSELVES.

  • >> NO ONE WAS CONCERNED

  • ABOUT RUSSIA UNTIL AFTER

  • HILLARY CLINTON LOST THE

  • ELECTION.

  • OF THE REPUBLICANS ON THE

  • HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE

  • AND IN THE HOUSE WERE

  • PRESSURING THE OBAMA

  • ADMINISTRATION, HEY, HERE IS

  • MONEY.

  • GET WEAPONS TO THE

  • UKRAINIANS THEY DIDN'T CARE

  • ABOUT RUSSIA UNTIL AFTER THE

  • ELECTION.