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  • STEVE: JOINING US LIVE HERE IN

  • NEW YORK CITY, BEN SHAPIRO

  • EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF THE DAILY

  • WIRE.

  • HOST OF THE BEN SHAPIRO PODCAST,

  • WILDLY SUCCESSFUL.

  • YOU ARE IN TOWN ROASTED BY

  • COMMENTARY MAGAZINE.

  • >> THAT IS A BLAST.

  • USED TO RECEIVING A LOT OF HATE

  • IN PERSON.

  • STEVE: ONE PARTICULAR LINE THAT

  • STOOD OUT?

  • AINSLEY: MADE YOU MAD?

  • >> FROM SOMEBODY ROASTING YOU OR

  • YOU AS A ROASTEE.

  • >> DANA PERINO KEPT CALLING ME

  • SHORT.

  • I FOUND THAT DISTURBING.

  • SHE IS TINY PERSSON.

  • BRIAN: DOESN'T HAVE THAT

  • AABRASIVE PART OF THAT

  • PERSONALITY.

  • >> I WAS SHOCKED BY THE CRUELTY

  • OF DANA PERINO.

  • AINSLEY: YOU ROASTED BACK.

  • >> YEAH.

  • JASPER CAME IN FOR A COUPLE.

  • STEVE: THAT IS HADDER DOG.

  • COMMENTARY MAGAZINE FROM THE

  • "NEW YORK TIMES," WHAT DO YOU

  • MAKE OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES"

  • BEING CAUGHT, NOT ONLY

  • APOLOGIZING FOR INAPPROPRIATE

  • TWEET, THEN AN EDITORIAL NOTE

  • FIXED ON THIS NEWS ANALYSIS,

  • THAT SAID, ESSENTIALLY, YEAH,

  • YOU KNOW WHAT?

  • WE LEFT OUT THE FACT THAT THE

  • WOMAN DOES NOT REMEMBER THE

  • STORY?

  • >> I WOULD SAY IT IS

  • UNBELIEVABLE EXCEPT IT IS

  • INSANELY BELIEVABLE.

  • EVERY TIME "THE NEW YORK TIMES"

  • MAKES A MISTAKE, DIRECTION OF

  • SOMEBODY ON THE RIGHT GETTING

  • CLOCKED.

  • THAT IS PARTICULARLY TRUE IN THE

  • KAVANAUGH STORY.

  • THERE IS MUCH BIGGER STORY IN

  • THE BOOK NOT REPORTED BY TIMES,

  • THAT LELAND KAISER, BEST FRIEND

  • OF CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD DIDN'T

  • BELIEVE FORD'S STORY AND

  • PRESSURED BY THE ALLIES TO

  • CHANGE HER STORY.

  • THEY BURIED THIS PARTICULAR

  • STORY IN THE NEWS ANALYSIS

  • SECTION SO THEY DIDN'T RUN IT

  • THROUGH THE NEWS SECTION.

  • THEY REMOVED THE LINE THAT SAID

  • THE ALLEGED VICTIM DIDN'T

  • REMEMBER THE INCIDENT IN

  • QUESTION, THEN REPLACED LATER.

  • THAT IS NOT JUST BAD JOURNALISM.

  • THAT IS BOTCHING, THAT IS

  • PURPOSEFUL.

  • BRIAN: SEE THEM TRY TO EXPLAIN

  • THEMSELVES OUT OF THIS.

  • THE TWO WRITERS OF THE BOOK

  • TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY WROTE FOR

  • THE OPINION SECTION OF THE

  • NEWSPAPER AND THEN HOW IT WAS HE

  • EDITED OUT.

  • SEE IF YOU BUY THIS.

  • >> THERE WAS NO DIRE TO WITHHOLD

  • IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM OUR

  • READERS.

  • WE HAVE IT ALL IN THE BOOK.

  • DURING THE EDITING PROS SETS WAS

  • KEY OVERSIGHT, THE WOMAN HERSELF

  • DOESN'T REMEMBER IT AND NOT

  • WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT, GOT

  • CUT.

  • IT WAS OVERSIGHT.

  • >> WE'RE A TEAM AT

  • "THE NEW YORK TIMES."

  • WE HAVE PROCESSES IN PLACE.

  • >> I THINK ACTUALLY THE WAY IT

  • HAPPENED WAS THE EDITORS BEING

  • CONCERNED ABOUT NAMING HER IN

  • THAT SENTENCE, HAD HER NAME.

  • ALSO HAD SHE DOESN'T REMEMBER

  • IT.

  • WE ALSO TOOK OUT THE FACT THAT

  • SHE DIDN'T REMEMBER IT.

  • AINSLEY: IS THERE A VICTIM?

  • >> SHE DOESN'T REMEMBER IT.

  • >> THERE IS NO STORY HERE.

  • THIS PROMPTED HE HAD TOLLS FROM

  • "THE NEW YORK TIMES,"

  • "WASHINGTON POST," HOW THE FBI

  • WAS ENGAGED IN A SHAM

  • INVESTIGATION.

  • THEY ARE NOT INVESTIGATING A

  • ALLEGATION WITH NO ALLEGED

  • VICTIM?

  • IT IS INSANITY.

  • BRIAN: DO YOU BELIEVE THE

  • EXPLANATION?

  • >> OF COURSE I DON'T BUY THE

  • EXPLANATION.

  • HOW IS IT OVERSIGHT YOU DON'T

  • REMOVE THE NAME, YOU REMOVE THE

  • KEY DETAIL OF THE ENTIRE STORY.

  • THAT IS THE CENTER OF THE STORY.

  • STEVE: THE CENTER OF THE STORY

  • WAS FROM A MAN WHO USED TO BE A

  • ATTORNEY FOR BILL CLINTON.

  • STEVE: DURING IMPEACHMENT.

  • >> HE WOULD NOT SPEAK TO THE

  • AUTHORS OF THE BOOK EITHER.

  • AND ONLY SPOKE THROUGH TWO OTHER

  • PEOPLE WHO WERE OFFICIALS WHO WE

  • DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

  • BRIAN: YOU MEAN THE NON-PARTISAN

  • ATTORNEY?

  • THAT IS WHAT THEY WROTE.

  • STEVE: NON-PROFIT OR SOMETHING.

  • >> EXACTLY THE WHOLE THING IS

  • ABSURD.

  • THEY IGNORED THE REAL STORY.

  • THAT IS THE "NEW YORK TIMES"

  • AND.

  • BRIAN: WHAT ABOUT EVERY

  • PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE THAT

  • IMMEDIATELY CALLED FOR KAVANAUGH

  • TO BE IMPEACHED ON A STORY THAT

  • HAD NO SUBSTANCE?

  • >> YOU MEAN DEMOCRATS DON'T CARE

  • ABOUT DUE PROCESS?

  • AGAIN, ALWAYS BRETT KAVANAUGH?

  • MAKE HIM THE FACE, WE DON'T CARE

  • ABOUT DUE PROCESS.

  • EVERY TIME THEY SAY THEY DON'T

  • CARE ABOUT DUE PROCESS, THEY

  • SHOULD FLASH HIS PICTURE.

  • AINSLEY: WHAT ABOUT BIDEN AND

  • HIS LATEST BLUNDER.

  • HE WILL PUT 720 MILLION WOMEN

  • BACK IN THE WORKFORCE.

  • PROBLEM IS THERE ARE ONLY 330

  • AMERICANS.

  • LISTEN TO THIS.

  • >> YOU GET A TAX BREAK FOR A

  • RACEHORSE, WHY IN GOD'S NAME

  • WOULD WE PROVIDE 8,000-DOLLAR

  • TAX CREDIT FOR EVERYBODY WHO HAS

  • CHILD CARE COSTS.

  • IT WOULD PUT, IT WOULD PUT

  • 720 MILLION, MILLION WOMEN BACK

  • IN THE WORKFORCE.

  • IT WOULD INCREASE THE GDP TO

  • SOUND LIKE WONK LEAR BY .8 OF

  • 1%.

  • IT WOULD GROW THE ECONOMY.

  • BRIAN: NEVER SOUNDS LIKE A WONK

  • IN DEFENSE OF JOE BIDEN.

  • WHAT ABOUT THE NUMB?

  • HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THE

  • NUMBERS?

  • YOU'RE VERY GOOD AT MATH.

  • >> I'M VERY SURE THAT DOESN'T

  • ADD UP.

  • HE IS STUMBLING INTO OBJECTS.

  • JUST SEARCHING FOR EARLY BIRD

  • DINNER AT DENNY'S, DRINKING CANS

  • OF ENSURE ON ROUTINE BASIS, THAT

  • IS BAKED IN THE CAKE.

  • I TAKE PERSPECTIVE IN THE

  • GENERAL ELECTION MIGHT NOT BE

  • BAD TO LOOK SENILE, OLD,

  • INEFFECTUAL, HONESTLY HE DOESN'T

  • LOOK DANGEROUS.

  • IF YOU'RE TRYING TO RUN SOMEBODY

  • AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU

  • DON'T WANT TO SCARE THE AMERICAN

  • POPULATION, JOE BIDEN IS THE

  • BASE OF NOT SCARY WHAT IS SCARY

  • OF A MAN WALKING AROUND WITH

  • TENNIS BALLS ON HIS --

  • STEVE: WARREN IS SECOND OR THIRD

  • PLACE.

  • SHE IS DOING BETTER.

  • NUDGING PAST BERNIE.

  • IF SHE PICKS UP REST OF BERNIE

  • SANDERS SUPPORT.

  • ELIZABETH WARREN WILL REMAIN SHE

  • HAS NO BLACK SUPPORT.

  • THE FACT JOE BIDEN RETAINS AN

  • ENORMOUS SHARE OF BLACK SUPPORT.

  • HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT TO

  • BARACK OBAMA.

  • ELIZABETH WARREN IS WHITER THAN

  • I AM BY A LARGE STRETCH AND IDEA

  • THAT SHE WILL START PICKING UP

  • BLACK SUPPORT FROM JOE BIDEN IN

  • THE ABSENCE OF BIDEN HAVING FALL

  • INTO THE VAN LIKE HILLARY

  • CLINTON MOMENT I --

  • BRIAN: SHE HAS ALMOST NO

  • MIDWESTERN SUPPORT.

  • THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY DOES

  • NOT LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN.

  • A DEMOCRAT I TALK TO ON MONDAY,

  • IF SHE GETS NOMINATION,

  • DONALD TRUMP HAS FOUR MORE

  • YEARS.

  • >> A LOT OF DEMOCRATS ARE

  • WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

  • DESPITE THE FACT THAT JOE BIDEN

  • IS OLDER THAN METHUSLAH.

  • AINSLEY: I'M PICTURING, CUTTING

  • X'S IN 10 BUSINESS BALLS AND

  • METHUSALAH.

  • >> YOU THINK JOE BIDEN IS ONLY

  • DEMOCRAT WINNING?

  • >> I DON'T THINK HE HAS AT SHOT

  • WIN BUT HE HAS THE BEST SHOT.

  • HE IS THE DEFAULT DEMOCRAT

  • BECAUSE HE BASICALLY IS THE BODY

  • OF WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S.

  • ALL YOU DO WALK HIM AROUND.

  • BRIAN: ALL THE POLLS SAY HE IS

  • NOT WINNING AGAINST ANY DEMOCRAT

  • THAT RAN FOR OFFICE EVER?

  • >> HE MAY NOT WIN THE PRIMARIES.

  • THAT MAKES HIM APPEALING IN THE

  • GENERAL ELECTION MAKES HIM

  • VULNERABLE IN THE PRIMARIES.

  • BRIAN: DID YOU ENJOY THE

  • APPEARANCE HERE?

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