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  • BREAK YOUR ARM.

  • GOOD LESSON FOR EVERYBODY.

  • STEVE: BRING YOUR DAUGHTER

  • TO DANCE DAY: LET'S BRING

  • IN MOLLIE HEMMINGWAY SENIOR

  • EDITOR OF THE FEDERALIST AND

  • GIGGLING DURING THAT STORY

  • OF SEAN SPICER.

  • >> I VOTED FOR SEAN 10 TIMES

  • LAST NIGHT.

  • BRIAN: I THOUGHT SO.

  • MOLLIE, HOW DID YOU HAVE THE

  • FREE TIME WHAT DID YOU THIS

  • WEEKEND LEGITIMATELY ALL

  • REALISTICALLY CHANGED THE

  • DIRECTION OF A STORY.

  • BEFORE YOU GOT INVOLVED ALL

  • THESE PRESIDENTIAL

  • CANDIDATES WERE CALLING FOR

  • IMPEACHMENT OF JUSTICE

  • KAVANAUGH.

  • >> IT SHOWS THE IMPORTANCE

  • OF ACTUALLY KNOWING WHAT YOU

  • ARE TALKING ABOUT.

  • I WAS ABLE TO READ THAT

  • BOOK.

  • I KNEW THEY HAD LEFT OUT THE

  • MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF

  • INFORMATION AND THEY SHOULD

  • HAVE INCLUDED IT IN THEIR

  • STORY.

  • THERE IS NO DEFENSE FOR NOT

  • INCLUDING THE FACT THAT

  • THEIR SUPPOSED ALLEGATION

  • AGAINST KAVANAUGH WAS BASED

  • ON A FALSE PREMISE.

  • THE WOMAN INVOLVED SAID SHE

  • HAD NO RECOLLECTION OF IT.

  • AINSLEY: I THOUGHT WHAT WAS

  • MOST IMPORTANT THIS WEEKEND

  • YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THOSE

  • WRITERS AND WHY THEY LEFT

  • CERTAIN INFORMATION OUT.

  • THEY HAD AN EXPLANATION.

  • TWO WOMEN FROM THE "NEW YORK

  • TIMES" WROTE THIS ARTICLE

  • BASED ON THAT BOOK.

  • ROBIN AND THEN KATE KELLY.

  • HERE IS ROBIN SPEAKING ABOUT

  • WHAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF HER

  • ORIGINAL ARTICLE, SHE SAYS.

  • LISTEN.

  • >> WE HAD HER NAME.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, THE "TIMES"

  • DOESN'T USUALLY INCLUDE THE

  • NAME OF THE VICTIM.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • >> SO I THINK IN THIS CASE

  • THE EDITORS FELT LIKE MAYBE

  • IT WAS BETTER TO REMOVE IT.

  • IN REMOVING HER NAME THEY

  • REMOVED THE OTHER REFERENCE

  • TOUT FACT THAT SHE DIDN'T

  • REMEMBER.

  • I THINK IT WAS AN EDITING

  • DONE IN THE HASTE IN THE

  • EDITING PROCESS.

  • >> WERE YOU INVOLVED IN THE

  • DECISION TO AMEND THIS AND

  • DO THE CORRECTION, THE

  • ADDITION ONLINE TO THE

  • PIECE.

  • >> WE FELT THERE WAS SO MUCH

  • HEAT.

  • EVERYONE HAS BEEN SEETHING

  • ON VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THIS

  • WE DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE AN

  • ISSUE ANYMORE.

  • WE NEVER INTENDED TO MISLEAD

  • IN ANY WAY.

  • AINSLEY: THEY NEVER INTENDED

  • TO MISLEAD AND EDITORS WERE

  • ACTING IN HASTE.

  • THEY HAPPENED TO FORGET TO

  • PUT IN HER FRIENDS -- THEY

  • ACTUALLY TOOK IT OUT HER

  • FRIENDS SAID THEY HAD NO

  • RECOLLECTION OF THE EVENTS.

  • SHE DECLINED TO BE

  • INTERVIEWED AND THE FEMALE'S

  • NAME.

  • >> YES.

  • I DO AGREE THAT THE EDITORS

  • ARE ALSO REPORTERS.

  • NOT JUST THE REPORTERS.

  • REALLY THE ENTIRE

  • INSTITUTION IS TO BLAME.

  • THEY SHOULDN'T JUST PASS IT

  • OFF ON THE REPORTERS.

  • HAVING SAID THAT IN NPR

  • INTERVIEW THAT AIRED

  • YESTERDAY THESE REPORTERS

  • DID THE EXACT SAME THING.

  • THEY MADE IT SOUND LIKE THEY

  • HAD A CREDIBLE STORY ABOUT A

  • WOMAN AND THEY HID THE FACT

  • THAT THE WOMAN DNGED IT EVER

  • HAPPENED.

  • BRIAN: REALLY?

  • I DID NOT KNOW THAT.

  • >> YOU CANNOT BLAME THAT ON

  • EDITORS.

  • HOUR LONG INTERVIEW.

  • PLENTY OF TIME TO DISCUSS

  • IT.

  • BRIAN: DUMPING ON THE

  • OPINION EDITOR OF THE

  • OPINION SECTION OF THE

  • "TIMES" I PUT IT IN THERE

  • AND THEY CUT IT OUT ON

  • HASTE.

  • SELLING THAT ANGLE.

  • REPORT TODAY THE "NEW YORK

  • TIMES" NEWS SECTION WALKED

  • AWAY FROM THE STORY.

  • THEY SAID THERE WASN'T

  • ENOUGH IN IT.

  • THAT'S HOW IT ENDED UP IN

  • THE OPINION SECTION.

  • "THE WASHINGTON POST" SAID

  • WE HAD A YEAR AGO.

  • NOT ENOUGH THERE TO PRINT

  • IT.

  • WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU?

  • >> WELL, I MEAN, I THINK

  • THAT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE IS

  • NOT ENOUGH THERE TO GO INTO

  • A NEWS SECTION.

  • AND IT REALLY SAYS SOMETHING

  • ABOUT WHAT THEIR STANDARDS

  • WERE IN REPORTING THIS.

  • NOW, I RECENTLY WROTE A BOOK

  • ON THE KAVANAUGH

  • CONFIRMATION JUSTIFIABLE ON

  • TRIAL.

  • WE INTERVIEWED MORE THAN 100

  • PEOPLE.

  • WE GOT ALL OF OUR FACTS

  • RIGHT.

  • WE'LL DIDN'T TRAFFIC IN

  • GOSSIP.

  • AND WE TOLD THE ACCURATE

  • STORY OF WHAT HAPPENED.

  • SO I KNOW IT CAN BE DONE.

  • AND THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR

  • HOW THEY DID THIS.

  • STEVE: YOU KNOW, MOLLIE

  • THOUGH, THIS GIVES

  • AMMUNITION TO THE PRESIDENT

  • AND THE PRESIDENT'S

  • SUPPORTERS TO SAY HEY, LOOK,

  • THE "NEW YORK TIMES," THEY

  • ARE OUT TO GET ME AND MY

  • GUYS.

  • >> I MEAN, YES.

  • IT DOES GIVE AMMUNITION

  • BECAUSE IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE

  • THAT THEY ARE RUNNING SOME

  • KIND OF CAMPAIGN AGAINST

  • THIS MAN AND THAT THEY ARE

  • UNWILLING TO LET IT GO.

  • EVEN THOUGH THEY DID CORRECT

  • THEIR STORY TO ADMIT THAT

  • THE ENTIRE PREMISE WAS

  • FALSE, THEY KEPT GOING

  • YESTERDAY.

  • THEY ARE STILL RUNNING

  • STORIES ABOUT IMPEACHMENT,

  • WHICH IS REALLY AN ABSURD

  • IDEA.

  • AT SOME POINT DECENT PEOPLE

  • ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STAND

  • UP AGAINST.

  • THIS IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT

  • NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD

  • ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT'S BEEN

  • DONE TO THIS MAN.

  • NO ONE ON THE SENATE

  • JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WAS HELD

  • ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR

  • VIOLATION OF NORMS.

  • ATTORNEYS WHO LIED TO THEIR

  • CLIENTS WERE NOT HELD

  • ACCOUNTABLE.

  • CRIMINAL REFERRALS SENT TO

  • THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

  • FOR FALSE STATEMENT.

  • NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN ON

  • THEM.

  • AND THE MEDIA KEEPS BEING

  • ALLOWED TO CONTINUE IN THIS

  • SMEAR CAMPAIGN.

  • I THINK DECENT PEOPLE,

  • REGARDLESS OF THEIR POLITICS

  • ARE JUST LOOKING AT THIS AND

  • SAYING IS THERE NO END TO

  • THIS?

  • WHEN WILL THEY STOP?

  • STEVE: MOLLIE, TO ONE OF

  • YOUR LAST POINTS, THE

  • CRIMINAL REFERRALS THAT WERE

  • MADE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF

  • JUSTICE, PEOPLE WHO, YOU

  • KNOW, SUPPOSEDLY WERE NOT

  • FACTUAL IN THEIR TESTIMONY,

  • YOU KNOW, IS THERE NO

  • CONSEQUENCE FOR LYING IN

  • FRONTS OF CONGRESS?

  • >> APPARENTLY NOT.

  • BECAUSE THOSE REFERRALS WERE

  • MADE AND THERE IS NO

  • INDICATION OF ANY ACTION.

  • I ACTUALLY PUT IN.

  • STEVE: WHY IS THAT?

  • >> I ACTUALLY REQUESTED TO

  • FIND OUT FROM THE DEPARTMENT

  • OF JUSTICE IF ANY ACTION HAD

  • BEEN TAKEN AND HAVE NOT

  • HEARD BACK OF ANY ACTION

  • TAKEN.

  • IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE

  • BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR

  • MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS.

  • BUT NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO

  • MADE FALSE STATEMENTS BUT

  • PEOPLE WHO TRAFFICKED IN

  • THEM.

  • THERE WERE SENATORS WHO

  • VIOLATED COMMITTEE NORMS AND

  • PROCEDURES.

  • THERE IS A NEW CHAIRMAN OF

  • THAT COMMITTEE, LINDSEY

  • GRAHAM, HE DID A REALLY

  • INTERESTING THING DURING THE

  • HEARING.

  • HE SAID SOMETHING THAT

  • PEOPLE FOUND REALLY

  • INTERESTING.

  • ABOUT NO ACTION HAS BEEN

  • TAKEN.

  • THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS YOU

  • COULD BE DOING TO

  • INVESTIGATE JUST HOW THAT

  • LETTER LEAKED OR WHY PEOPLE

  • VIOLATED NORMS AND

  • PROCEDURES.

  • THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT

  • TO DO.

  • BRIAN: DO YOU KNOW WHAT

  • THEY'RE FOCUSING ON NOW IN

  • THE FBI DIDN'T DO A THOROUGH

  • INVESTIGATION EXTRA TWO

  • WEEKS BEFORE THEY VOTED.

  • REMEMBER WHEN FLAKE GOT

  • TOGETHER WITH COONS AND THEY

  • DECIDED TO NOT VOTE AND PUT

  • IT OFF FOR A WEEK?

  • NOW THAT'S THE FOCUS.

  • >> THEY ARE ACTUALLY SAYING

  • THAT SOMEONE SHOULD BE

  • IMPEACHED BECAUSE THE FBI

  • DIDN'T INVESTIGATE A

  • SITUATION WHERE A WOMAN SAYS

  • SHE WAS NOT THE VICTIM OF

  • ANY CRIME THAT DOESN'T MAKE

  • ANY SENSE.

  • THERE SHOULD BE TOUGH

  • QUESTIONS TO PEOPLE WHO EVEN

  • MAKE THAT SOUND LIKE THAT'S

  • A LEGITIMATE THING TO DO.

  • I REALIZE IT WAS DIFFICULT

  • FOR A CERTAIN GROUP OF

  • PEOPLE TO LOSE THE 2016

  • ELECTIONS.

  • BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE

  • INTERVENES YEARS IS A TEMPER

  • TANTRUM THAT REFUSES TO

  • ACCEPT THAT REALITY WHETHER

  • IT'S THE RUSSIA HOAX OR THE

  • KAVANAUGH HOAX OR WHATEVER

  • THE NEXT HOAX IS GOING TO

  • BE.

  • SO PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELD

  • ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY

  • PERPETRATE THESE KIND OF

  • THINGS.

  • BRIAN: OR ELSE IT WILL NEVER

  • STOP.

  • FBI DIRECTOR WRAY WILL BE ON

  • CAPITOL HILL IN OCTOBER.

  • YOU KNOW ALL THE QUESTIONS

  • WILL BE ABOUT THIS.

  • EVEN THOUGH WE ARE IN THE

  • MIDDLE OF THIS LITTLE

  • PROBLEM WE ARE HAVING WITH

  • IRAN AND SO MUCH

  • INTERNATIONAL -- SO MANY

  • INTERNATIONAL CHALLENGES

  • THAT WE HAVE.

  • >> WELL, WRAY SHOULD BE

  • ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT

  • WHAT THE FBI WAS DOING OVER

  • THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW

  • YEARS.

  • BUT I WOULD SAY FOCUS ON,

  • AGAIN, THE RUSSIA HOAX AND

  • THAT AGENCY'S ROLE IN

  • PERPETUATING IT.

  • AINSLEY: ALL THESE

  • INVESTIGATIONS.

  • THANK YOU SO MUCH, MOLLIE,

BREAK YOUR ARM.

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