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  • JOINING US.

  • >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

  • LELAND: GOOD TO SEE YOU.

  • TAKE CARE.

  • GILLIAN.

  • GILLIAN: LET'S BRING IN THE

  • REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THIS E

  • EQUATION, FROM WISCONSIN, MIKE

  • GALLAGHER, APPRECIATE YOU BEING

  • WITH US.

  • AND KICKING OFF THE G-7 BY

  • ESSENTIALLY SAYING THE UNITED

  • STATES TRADE WAR WITH CHINA

  • HIGHLIGHTS WHY WE NEED THE GROUP

  • OF 7 MORE THAN EVER TO HELP

  • WEIGH IN WITH SITUATIONS LIKE

  • THIS.

  • DO YOU GET THE FEELING THAT

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO BE

  • TAKING ADVICE FROM THESE FOREIGN

  • LEADERS THIS WEEKEND?

  • >> WELL, I THINK THE PRESIDENT

  • HAS AN ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITY TO

  • UNITE THE FREE WORLD IN

  • OPPOSITION TO CHINA'S PREDATORY

  • PRACTICES.

  • THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND

  • THAT THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY

  • REPRESENTS OUR BIGGEST ECONOMIC

  • AND GEOPOLITICAL THREAT OVER THE

  • LONG-TERM.

  • I BELIEVE WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING

  • OF A GENERATIONAL STRUGGLE AND I

  • BELIEVE THE BEST WEAPON WE HAVE

  • IN THAT FIGHT IS TO BE ON THE

  • SAME PAGE WITH OUR ALLIES IN

  • PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE CCP.

  • AND FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN

  • ANY--

  • >> DO YOU THINK THAT SOME OF THE

  • FOREIGN LEADERS THERE LIKE

  • ANGELA MERKEL OF GERMANY, MACRON

  • OF FRANCE, DO YOU THINK THEIR

  • WORDS TO THE SAME TUNE AS YOU

  • JUST LAID OUT, ARE REALLY GOING

  • TO MAKE AN IMPRESSION ON

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP?

  • DO YOU THINK MAYBE HE'S GOING TO

  • KIND OF TAKE A STEP BACK IN THE

  • TRADE SPAT OR DO YOU THINK HE'S

  • GOING TO COME OUT OF THERE AND

  • WANT TO GO EVEN HARDER?

  • >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

  • YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, I HAVEN'T

  • BEEN IN THAT ROOM.

  • I JUST WOULD SAY THIS, I THINK

  • THE SOONER WE RESOLVE DISPUTES

  • WITH OUR ALLIES, AS WE HAVE AS

  • PERTAINS TO THE 232 TARIFFS WITH

  • CANADA AND MEXICO AND SOME OF

  • OUR OTHER ALLIES.

  • THE BETTER CHANCE WE HAVE OF

  • UNITING OUR ALLIES IN OPPOSITION

  • TO CHINA, I THINK ONE POSITIVE

  • STEP WE COULD DO FROM

  • CONGRESSIONAL, IRRESPECTIVE OF

  • WHAT HAPPENS IN THE G-7 IS TO

  • BRING THE NEW NAFTA TO A VOTE.

  • THE FACT WE'RE ON RECESS WHEN

  • THIS ISSUE IS UNRESOLVED IS

  • ABSURD.

  • I THINK THEY SHOULD CALL US BACK

  • AND HAVE THE DEBATE.

  • NANCY PELOSI SHOULD FEEL THE

  • PRESSURE TO DO SO.

  • WE SHOULD KEEP OUR FOCUS ON

  • PROTECTING SENSITIVE U.S.

  • TECHNOLOGY EXPORTED TO CHINA

  • WHERE IT WILL BE USED AT BEST TO

  • REPRESS CHINESE CITIZENS AND ONE

  • DAY AGAINST OUR SOLDIERS,

  • AIRMEN, MARINES AND SAILORS ON

  • THE BATTLEFIELD.

  • GILLIAN: YOU BRING UP A GOOD

  • POINT WHICH IS A STICKING POINT

  • IN THE TRADE SPAT WITH CHINA

  • SINCE DAY ONE HAS BEEN

  • INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.

  • IT'S CHINA STEALING EVERYTHING

  • FROM SENSITIVE, CLASSIFIED, U.S.

  • BUSINESS INFORMATION, TO

  • STEALING ALL KINDS OF

  • TECHNOLOGICAL KNOW-HOW FROM THE

  • UNITED STATES.

  • HOW DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP

  • IS TAKING ON THAT ISSUE

  • SPECIFICALLY SO FAR IN THE, YOU

  • KNOW, IN THIS BACK AND FORTH?

  • DO YOU THINK HE'S REALLY GETTING

  • AT THE HEART OF THE MATTER?

  • >> WELL, I THINK THE TRUMP

  • ADMINISTRATION DESERVES ENORMOUS

  • CREDIT FOR DRAWING ATTENTION TO

  • THAT ISSUE.

  • FOR THE A LEAST TWO DECADES

  • PRIOR TO THE TRUMP

  • ADMINISTRATION, THE BIPARTISAN

  • POLICY WAS IF WE INTEGRATED

  • CHINA INTO THE ECONOMY IT WOULD

  • MODERATE THEIR BEHAVIOR IN TERMS

  • OF MILITARY ACTIVITY, DIPLOMATIC

  • ACTIVITY AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.

  • THE ONLY PROBLEM WAS THAT WAS

  • ENTIRELY WRONG SO THE NATIONAL

  • SECURITY STRATEGY AND DEFENSE

  • STRATEGY OF THE TRUMP

  • ADMINISTRATION SAY OUR FOREMOST

  • GEOPOLITICAL THREAT IS CHINA,

  • CHINA, CHINA.

  • THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS IS IT TO

  • ENSURE THE FUTURE OF THE

  • INTERNET IS NOT DOMINATED BY THE

  • CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY

  • PARTICULARLY HUAWEI AND--

  • >> UNFORTUNATELY, CONGRESSMAN,

  • THE PROBLEM IS THAT PRESIDENT

  • TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION HAS

  • SHINED A SPOTLIGHT ON THE ISSUE,

  • BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING CONCRETE

  • PROGRESS IN TERMS OF DETERRING

  • CHINESE HACKS.

  • I MEAN, OVER THE LAST TWO

  • MONTHS, THE NUMBER OF CHINESE

  • ESPIONAGE EXPERTS THAT HAVE BEEN

  • IDENTIFIED ON U.S. BUSINESS

  • WEBSITES HAVE ACTUALLY

  • SKYROCKETED.

  • >> IT'S AN ENORMOUS CHALLENGE

  • AND THAT'S WHY I CHAIR

  • SOMETHING, A COMMISSION

  • REVIEWING U.S. CYBER POLICY.

  • I WOULD SAY WE'VE MADE

  • SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN OUR CYBER

  • POLICY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS

  • WE'VE ALLOWED OUR CYBER WARRIORS

  • MORE LATITUDE TO ATONIGHT A

  • POLICY OF PERSISTENT ENGAGEMENT

  • AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE

  • REASONS WE DIDN'T SEE AS MANY

  • CONCERNS ABOUT THE 2018 ELECTION

  • AS WE DID IN THE 2016 ELECTION

  • IN TERMS OF HACKING.

  • NO DOUBT TO YOUR POINT THERE'S

  • MUCH MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

  • ULTIMATELY, THIS IS A HUMAN

  • PROBLEM.

  • WE NEED THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST

  • IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN THE

  • SILICON VALLEY TO WORK WITH THE

  • PENTAGON AND NOT THE COMMUNIST

  • CHINESE PARTY.

  • THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO WIN THIS

  • OVER THE LONG-TERM AND IF THE

  • CONSENSUS IN SILICON VALLEY

  • THEY'D RATHER WORK WITH THE CCP

  • THAN REFINING THEIR INSTRUMENTS

  • THAN WITH OUR WARRIORS, THEN

  • WE'RE IN THE TROUBLE.

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