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  • THERE.

  • WE'LL SEE HOW THE CONVERSATION

  • GOES.

  • THANK YOU.

  • INHUMANE AND RACIST OR

  • COMPASSIONATE AND LEGAL.

  • LET'S BRING INTIMATES EXPERTS.

  • CLARA LONG AND THE

  • VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL

  • COUNCIL ART DEL CUETO.

  • SO LET'S START.

  • WE HAVE A "WASHINGTON POST"

  • HEADLINE.

  • TRUMP ADMINISTRATION MOVES TO

  • TERMINATE AGREEMENT.

  • THEY SAY MORE THAN 432,000

  • MEMBERS OF FAMILY UNITS HAVE

  • BEEN TAKEN INTO CUSTODY.

  • A 460% INCREASE.

  • MOST OF BEEN RELEASED INTO THE

  • UNITED STATES.

  • CLARA, MANY SAY THIS IS

  • ESSENTIALLY A SCAM THAT PEOPLE

  • ARE BEING TRAFFIC.

  • PEOPLE KNOW THERE'S A LIMIT ON

  • HOW LONG THEY CAN BE HELD IN

  • MOST ANTICIPATE THEY'RE GOING TO

  • BE RELEASED.

  • >> HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A

  • SERIOUS HUMAN RIGHTS CONCERN AND

  • IF THE GOVERNMENT IS SERIOUS

  • ABOUT ADDRESSING IT, THERE ARE

  • FAR BETTER OPTIONS THAN PLACING

  • FAMILIES IN INDEFINITE

  • DETENTION.

  • WITH THIS RULE DOES OR WOULD DO

  • IS ERASE THE CORE PRINCIPLE OF

  • THIS DECADES-OLD SETTLEMENT

  • AGREEMENT WHICH IS THAT CHILDREN

  • SHOULD BE RELEASED FROM

  • DETENTION EXPEDITIOUSLY.

  • THAT'S BECAUSE DETENTION HAS

  • BEEN PROVEN BY US AT HUMAN

  • RIGHTS WATCH.

  • BUT BY MANY OTHER

  • SOCIAL SCIENTISTS AND

  • ORGANIZATIONS TO CAUSE SEVERE

  • TRAUMA TO CHILDREN AND THAT

  • TRAUMA IS LONG-LASTING.

  • AND POTENTIALLY PERMANENT.

  • THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES.

  • IT'S NOT JUST DETAINER RELEASE.

  • THERE ARE PROVEN ALTERNATIVES

  • THEY CAN KEEP THESE FAMILIES

  • GOING TO COURT PROCEEDINGS,

  • SHOOTING UP TO COMPLY WITH

  • DEPORTATION ORDERS.

  • IT'S NOT A BINARY ONE OR THE

  • OTHER.

  • >> Shannon: LET'S BRING ART IN

  • HERE.

  • LET ME SAY THE WAY

  • SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI REFERRED TO

  • IT, SHE SAID THE ADMINISTRATION

  • IS SEEKING TO CODIFY CHILD

  • ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

  • >> THIS IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN

  • TO.

  • WE ARE SEEING GROUPS COMING

  • ACROSS WITH MINORS AND A LOT OF

  • MINORS ARE WITHIN THE AGES OF

  • 14, 15 YEARS OLD.

  • WE ASKED THEM WHO ARE THEIR

  • PARENTS AND THEY ARE SAYING THE

  • INDIVIDUAL THEY ARE WITH OTHER

  • PARENTS BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT

  • FOR SURE.

  • THERE'S ALSO INDIVIDUALS THAT

  • ARE SMALLER AND YOUNGER THAT ARE

  • BEING BROUGHT IN BY THESE

  • INDIVIDUALS AND THEY ARE BEING

  • USED BY THE CRIMINAL ELEMENTS TO

  • FURTHER BREAK THE LAW AND FIND

  • LOOPHOLES IN OUR IMMIGRATION

  • SYSTEM.

  • THE BOTTOM LINE IS SOMETHING

  • LIKE THIS HELPS US SO WE CAN

  • BETTER DETERMINE IF THESE

  • INDIVIDUALS ARE ACTUALLY A

  • GUARDIAN OR PARENT TO THESE KID

  • KIDS.

  • THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE BEING

  • RELEASED HAVING CHILDREN WITHOUT

  • REALLY KNOWING FOR SURE IF THEY

  • ARE REAL GUARDIANS, IT'S BEEN

  • LARGE.

  • I WOULD GIVE YOU STORIES.

  • WE'VE HAD INDIVIDUALS WHO CALLED

  • TO THE STATIONS ASKING WHERE IS

  • MY CHILD?

  • HE HASN'T BEEN RELEASED.

  • WE'VE GOTTEN INTO IT AND I'VE

  • SAID WHERE'S YOUR CHILD?

  • WHO DID YOU HAND YOUR CHILD OFF

  • TO?

  • THEY SAID I HANDED IT OFF TO AN

  • ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY SAID

  • THEY WOULD GIVE THE EXTRA MONEY

  • TO COME INTO THE UNITED STATES.

  • THEY RENT THEIR CHILDREN.

  • IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO

  • STOP, AND THE WAY IT STOPS IS BY

  • ALLOWING US TO DETAIN THEM

  • LONGER PERIODS OF TIME SO WE CAN

  • MAKE THE PROPER DETERMINATION.

  • >> Shannon: LET ME PLAY

  • SOMETHING BY

  • SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM.

  • >> 30% OF THE PEOPLE WITH SMALL

  • CHILDREN ARE FAKE FAMILIES.

  • THE WORD IS OUT IN

  • CENTRAL AMERICA YOU BRING A

  • SMALL CHILD TO THE

  • UNITED STATES, YOUR HOME FREE.

  • >> Shannon: HE SAYS WHAT

  • ADMINISTRATION WOULD WANT TO

  • CRACK DOWN ON THAT FOR THE SAKE

  • OF THE KIDS AND THE WOMEN OFTEN

  • FIND THEMSELVES IN BAD

  • SITUATIONS ON THE TRAIL.

  • >> THERE'S NO WAY IN WHICH

  • VISITING FURTHER CRUELTY ON

  • CHILDREN, DETAINING THEM LONGER

  • AND UNLICENSED FACILITIES THAT

  • ARE NOT LICENSE FOR CHILD CARE

  • HELPS ADDRESS ANY PROBLEM OF

  • CHILD TRAFFICKING.

  • IF THE GOVERNMENT REALLY WANTED

  • TO ADDRESS CHILD TRAFFICKING,

  • GREAT.

  • ONE REALLY IMPORTANT THING IS TO

  • MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING

  • THESE SCREENINGS ARE NOT BORDER

  • PATROL OFFICERS WERE NOT TRAINED

  • TO ASSESS CHILD WELFARE.

  • AS A CHILD WERE WELFARE PRO

  • AS A CHILD WERE WELFARE PRE

  • AS A CHILD WERE WELFARE PRS

  • AS A CHILD WERE WELFARE PRO

  • AS A CHILD WERE WELFARE PRA

  • AS A CHILD WERE WELFARE PRL

  • WOULD BE.

  • >> Shannon: MY UNDERSTANDING

  • IS THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT

  • LICENSING REQUIREMENTS THAT

  • WOULD BE EASIER FOR THE FEDS TO

  • PUT TOGETHER FACILITIES.

  • WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT

  • CONTENTION?

  • >> I'M OUT THERE SEEING WHAT'S

  • HAPPENING.

  • I'M SEEING THESE KIDS BEING

  • TURNED OVER TO CRIMINAL

  • ORGANIZATIONS.

  • I'M SEEING KIDS WALKING THROUGH

  • THE DESERT.

  • I'M SEEING KIDS PUTTING TRUNKS

  • OF CARS.

  • BUT PEOPLE AT ARTHUR PARENTS.

  • THEY ARE ALREADY EXPOSED TO VERY

  • DANGEROUS THINGS.

  • EXPOSED TO CRIMINAL ELEMENTS.

  • WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHO

  • THEIR PARENTS ARE AND MAKE SURE

  • THE BEST THING HAPPENS TO THESE

  • CHILDREN.

  • BY OPEN BORDERS AND BY SAYING

  • YOU ARE TREATING -- FALSE

  • NARRATIVE, IT'S NOT HELPING

  • THESE KIDS.

  • WE ARE HERE TO HELP THESE KIDS.

  • I WISH PEOPLE WOULD COME DOWN

  • AND SEE WHAT WE ARE REALLY DOING

  • PETE'S VIEW ON THE ONE THING YOU

  • AGREE ON IS

  • KIDS NEED TO BE TREATED WITH

  • DIGNITY AND JUSTICE AND

THERE.

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