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  • NICOLLE WALLACE STARTS RIGHT NOW.

  • NOW. /S

  • /S >>> HI, EVERYONE.

  • >>> HI, EVERYONE. IT'S 4:00 IN NEW YORK.

  • IT'S 4:00 IN NEW YORK. PRESIDENT TRUMP ORDERS THE

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP ORDERS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO HUNT DOWN

  • ATTORNEY GENERAL TO HUNT DOWN THE OP-ED AUTHOR ATTACKING HIM.

  • THE OP-ED AUTHOR ATTACKING HIM. HE GAVE THE MIDTERM MESSAGE TO

  • HE GAVE THE MIDTERM MESSAGE TO TRY TO SAVE AMERICA FROM

  • TRY TO SAVE AMERICA FROM TRUMPISM.

  • TRUMPISM. THE 44th PRESIDENT LAUNCHING HIS

  • THE 44th PRESIDENT LAUNCHING HIS MOST DIRECT ATTACK YET AGAINST

  • MOST DIRECT ATTACK YET AGAINST THE 45th, CALLING TRUMP, QUOTE,

  • THE 45th, CALLING TRUMP, QUOTE, A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND

  • A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND ACCUSING HIS REPUBLICAN ENABLERS

  • ACCUSING HIS REPUBLICAN ENABLERS OF PRACTICING A, QUOTE, POLITICS

  • OF PRACTICING A, QUOTE, POLITICS OF FEAR AND RESENTMENT.

  • OF FEAR AND RESENTMENT. >> IT SHOULD NOT BE DEMOCRATIC

  • >> IT SHOULD NOT BE DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN.

  • OR REPUBLICAN. IT SHOULD NOT BE A PARTISAN

  • IT SHOULD NOT BE A PARTISAN ISSUE TO SAY THAT WE DO NOT

  • ISSUE TO SAY THAT WE DO NOT PRESSURE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR

  • PRESSURE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR THE FBI TO USE THE CRIMINAL

  • THE FBI TO USE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AS A CAJOLE TO

  • JUSTICE SYSTEM AS A CAJOLE TO PUNISH OUR POLITICAL OPPONENTS.

  • PUNISH OUR POLITICAL OPPONENTS. [ APPLAUSE ]

  • [ APPLAUSE ] OR TO EXPLICITLY CALL ON THE

  • OR TO EXPLICITLY CALL ON THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO PROTECT

  • ATTORNEY GENERAL TO PROTECT MEMBERS OF OUR OWN PARTY FROM

  • MEMBERS OF OUR OWN PARTY FROM PROSECUTION BECAUSE AN ELECTION

  • PROSECUTION BECAUSE AN ELECTION HAPPENS TO BE COMING UP.

  • HAPPENS TO BE COMING UP. I'M NOT MAKING THAT UP.

  • I'M NOT MAKING THAT UP. THAT'S NOT HYPOTHETICAL.

  • THAT'S NOT HYPOTHETICAL. IT SHOULDN'T BE DEMOCRATIC OR

  • IT SHOULDN'T BE DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN TO SAY THAT WE DON'T

  • REPUBLICAN TO SAY THAT WE DON'T THREATEN THE FREEDOM OF THE

  • THREATEN THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS BECAUSE THEY SAY THINGS OR

  • PRESS BECAUSE THEY SAY THINGS OR PUBLISH STORIES WE DON'T LIKE.

  • PUBLISH STORIES WE DON'T LIKE. [ APPLAUSE ]

  • [ APPLAUSE ] I COMPLAINED PLENTY ABOUT FOX

  • I COMPLAINED PLENTY ABOUT FOX NEWS.

  • NEWS. [ LAUGHTER ]

  • [ LAUGHTER ] BUT YOU NEVER HEARD ME THREATEN

  • BUT YOU NEVER HEARD ME THREATEN TO SHUT THEM DOWN.

  • TO SHUT THEM DOWN. OR CALL THEM ENEMIES OF THE

  • OR CALL THEM ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE.

  • PEOPLE. IT SHOULDN'T BE DEMOCRATIC OR

  • IT SHOULDN'T BE DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN TO SAY WE DON'T

  • REPUBLICAN TO SAY WE DON'T TARGET CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE

  • TARGET CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE BASED ON WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR

  • BASED ON WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR HOW THEY PRAY.

  • HOW THEY PRAY. WE ARE AMERICANS.

  • WE ARE AMERICANS. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STAND UP TO

  • WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STAND UP TO BULLIES.

  • BULLIES. [ APPLAUSE ]

  • [ APPLAUSE ] NOT FOLLOW THEM.

  • NOT FOLLOW THEM. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STAND UP TO

  • WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STAND UP TO DISCRIMINATION.

  • DISCRIMINATION. AND WE'RE SURE AS HECK SUPPOSED

  • AND WE'RE SURE AS HECK SUPPOSED TO STAND UP CLEARLY AND

  • TO STAND UP CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY TO NAZI

  • UNEQUIVOCALLY TO NAZI SYMPATHIZERS.

  • SYMPATHIZERS. [ APPLAUSE ]

  • [ APPLAUSE ] HOW HARD CAN THAT BE?

  • HOW HARD CAN THAT BE? SAYING THAT NAZIS ARE BAD?

  • SAYING THAT NAZIS ARE BAD? >> GOOD GOD, TRUMP MAKES YOU

  • >> GOOD GOD, TRUMP MAKES YOU MISS EVERYONE THAT CAME BEFORE

  • MISS EVERYONE THAT CAME BEFORE HIM.

  • HIM. OBAMA'S RETURN TO THE CAMPAIGN

  • OBAMA'S RETURN TO THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL IS SURE TO FAN THE FLAMES

  • TRAIL IS SURE TO FAN THE FLAMES OF DONALD TRUMP'S INFERIORITY

  • OF DONALD TRUMP'S INFERIORITY COMPLEX.

  • COMPLEX. TRUMP TRYING TO BRUSH OFF

  • TRUMP TRYING TO BRUSH OFF OBAMA'S RETURN WITH AN INSULT.

  • OBAMA'S RETURN WITH AN INSULT. >> I'M SORRY I WATCHED IT, BUT I

  • >> I'M SORRY I WATCHED IT, BUT I FELL ASLEEP.

  • FELL ASLEEP. [ LAUGHTER ]

  • [ LAUGHTER ] I FOUND HE'S VERY GOOD, VERY

  • I FOUND HE'S VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD FOR SLEEPING.

  • GOOD FOR SLEEPING. >> ACTUALLY IT'S MORE LIKELY

  • >> ACTUALLY IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT OBAMA'S PRESENCE ON THE

  • THAT OBAMA'S PRESENCE ON THE KWAM

  • KWAM CAMPAIGN TRAIL WILL WAKE UP HIS

  • CAMPAIGN TRAIL WILL WAKE UP HIS COALITION OF DEMOCRATIC AND

  • COALITION OF DEMOCRATIC AND INDEPENDENT VOTERS BUT THERE IS

  • INDEPENDENT VOTERS BUT THERE IS AMPLE TIME TO TEST THAT THEORY.

  • AMPLE TIME TO TEST THAT THEORY. JOINING US TO DISCUSS THE LATEST

  • JOINING US TO DISCUSS THE LATEST HIGH-LEVEL REBUKE OF THE CONDUCT

  • HIGH-LEVEL REBUKE OF THE CONDUCT OF THE CURRENT PRESIDENT SOME OF

  • OF THE CURRENT PRESIDENT SOME OF THE OUR FAVORITE REPORTERS AND

  • THE OUR FAVORITE REPORTERS AND FRIENDS.

  • FRIENDS. JEREMY BASH, FORMER STAFF AT THE

  • JEREMY BASH, FORMER STAFF AT THE CI ERICSSON AND PENTAGON NOW

  • CI ERICSSON AND PENTAGON NOW MSNBC ANALYST.

  • MSNBC ANALYST. JONATHAN LEMIRE, WHITE HOUSE

  • JONATHAN LEMIRE, WHITE HOUSE REPORTER FOR THE ASSOCIATED

  • REPORTER FOR THE ASSOCIATED PRESS.

  • PRESS. THE REV AL SHARPTON, PRESIDENT

  • THE REV AL SHARPTON, PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK

  • OF THE NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK AND HOST OF POLITICS NATION HERE

  • AND HOST OF POLITICS NATION HERE ON MSNBC.

  • ON MSNBC. BRETT STEVENS, OP-ED COLUMNIST

  • BRETT STEVENS, OP-ED COLUMNIST FOR "THE NEW YORK TIMES" AND MAR

  • FOR "THE NEW YORK TIMES" AND MAR A GAY, JOURNALIST AND MEMBER OF

  • A GAY, JOURNALIST AND MEMBER OF THE "THE NEW YORK TIMES"

  • THE "THE NEW YORK TIMES" EDITORIAL BOARD.

  • EDITORIAL BOARD. JEREMY BASH, LET ME START WITH

  • JEREMY BASH, LET ME START WITH YOU, ONE BECAUSE I MISSED YOU.

  • YOU, ONE BECAUSE I MISSED YOU. AND TWO, THE JUXTAPOSITION

  • AND TWO, THE JUXTAPOSITION TODAY, IT WAS A SPLIT SCREEN

  • TODAY, IT WAS A SPLIT SCREEN MOMENT WE FINALLY ACHIEVED THE

  • MOMENT WE FINALLY ACHIEVED THE TWO AMERICAS JOHN EDWARDS FIRST

  • TWO AMERICAS JOHN EDWARDS FIRST TALKED ABOUT IN MY POLITICAL

  • TALKED ABOUT IN MY POLITICAL CAREER WHERE, ON ONE SIDE OF THE

  • CAREER WHERE, ON ONE SIDE OF THE SCREEN, DONALD TRUMP WAS URGING

  • SCREEN, DONALD TRUMP WAS URGING THE SITTING ATTORNEY GENERAL TO

  • THE SITTING ATTORNEY GENERAL TO INVESTIGATE THE IDENTITY OF THE

  • INVESTIGATE THE IDENTITY OF THE AUTHOR OF THAT OP-ED IN "THE NEW

  • AUTHOR OF THAT OP-ED IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES," REALLY REBUKING HIS

  • YORK TIMES," REALLY REBUKING HIS STABILITY, CALLING INTO QUESTION

  • STABILITY, CALLING INTO QUESTION HIS CAPACITY TO CARRY OUT THE

  • HIS CAPACITY TO CARRY OUT THE DUTIES OF HIS JOB.

  • DUTIES OF HIS JOB. ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE FORMER

  • ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE FORMER PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT HOW EASY

  • PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT HOW EASY IT SHOULD BE TO DISTANCE

  • IT SHOULD BE TO DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM PEOPLE WHO EMBRACE

  • YOURSELF FROM PEOPLE WHO EMBRACE GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE

  • GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE KKK RALLY.

  • KKK RALLY. >> WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS

  • >> WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS BROUGHT HERE TO THE FORE, FOR

  • BROUGHT HERE TO THE FORE, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAMPAIGN

  • THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAMPAIGN SEASON, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S

  • SEASON, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE LAST, IS THIS

  • GOING TO BE THE LAST, IS THIS DEEP CONCERN THAT WE SEE THAT

  • DEEP CONCERN THAT WE SEE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS TO USE THE

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS TO USE THE APPARATUS OF THE NATIONAL

  • APPARATUS OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE TO GO AFTER HIS

  • SECURITY STATE TO GO AFTER HIS POLITICAL CRITICS.

  • POLITICAL CRITICS. HE WANTS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO

  • HE WANTS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO CRIMINALIZE FREE SPEECH, TO

  • CRIMINALIZE FREE SPEECH, TO CRIMINALIZE FREE EXPRESSION, TO

  • CRIMINALIZE FREE EXPRESSION, TO CRIMINALIZE CRITICISM.

  • CRIMINALIZE CRITICISM. TO ACTUALLY USE CRIMINAL

  • TO ACTUALLY USE CRIMINAL AUTHORITY

  • AUTHORITY AUTHORITIES AND NATIONAL

  • AUTHORITIES AND NATIONAL SECURITY AUTHORITIES TO CONDUCT

  • SECURITY AUTHORITIES TO CONDUCT SURVEILLANCE TO FIND, LOCATE

  • SURVEILLANCE TO FIND, LOCATE POTENTIALLY EAVES DROP,

  • POTENTIALLY EAVES DROP, POTENTIALLY ARREST SOMEONE WHO

  • POTENTIALLY ARREST SOMEONE WHO IS CRITICIZING THE PRESIDENT.

  • IS CRITICIZING THE PRESIDENT. AND IT IS IN LINE AS PRESIDENT

  • AND IT IS IN LINE AS PRESIDENT OBAMA POINTED OUT WITH OTHER

  • OBAMA POINTED OUT WITH OTHER EFFORTS BY PRESIDENT TRUMP TO

  • EFFORTS BY PRESIDENT TRUMP TO USE THE APPARATUS OF THE STATE

  • USE THE APPARATUS OF THE STATE TO GO AFTER CRITICS, TO THREATEN

  • TO GO AFTER CRITICS, TO THREATEN TO STRIP BROADCAST LICENSES FROM

  • TO STRIP BROADCAST LICENSES FROM THE MEDIA THAT HE DOESN'T

  • THE MEDIA THAT HE DOESN'T SUPPORT, AND, OF COURSE, TO USE

  • SUPPORT, AND, OF COURSE, TO USE OTHER MECHANISMS THAT ARE

  • OTHER MECHANISMS THAT ARE TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE TO GO

  • TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE TO GO AFTER POLITICAL CRITICISM.

  • AFTER POLITICAL CRITICISM. >> AND DON'T BELIEVE JEREMY AND

  • >> AND DON'T BELIEVE JEREMY AND ME.

  • ME. LISTEN FOR YOUR OWN EARS.

  • LISTEN FOR YOUR OWN EARS. HERE'S DONALD TRUMP WHILE

  • HERE'S DONALD TRUMP WHILE PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS SPEAKING

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS SPEAKING TALKING ABOUT DOING JUST WHAT

  • TALKING ABOUT DOING JUST WHAT JEREMY DESCRIBES.

  • JEREMY DESCRIBES. LET'S LISTEN.

  • LET'S LISTEN. >> DO YOU THINK JEFF SESSIONS

  • >> DO YOU THINK JEFF SESSIONS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING WHO THE

  • SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING WHO THE AUTHOR OF THE OP-ED PIECE WAS OR

  • AUTHOR OF THE OP-ED PIECE WAS OR WHO SAID --

  • WHO SAID -- >> I THINK SO BECAUSE I THINK

  • >> I THINK SO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S NATIONAL SECURITY.

  • IT'S NATIONAL SECURITY. I WOULD SAY JEFF SHOULD BE

  • I WOULD SAY JEFF SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING WHO THE AUTHOR OF

  • INVESTIGATING WHO THE AUTHOR OF THAT PIECE WAS BECAUSE I REALLY

  • THAT PIECE WAS BECAUSE I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S NATIONAL SECURITY.

  • BELIEVE IT'S NATIONAL SECURITY. >> IS THERE AN ACTION THAT

  • >> IS THERE AN ACTION THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN AGAINST "THE NEW

  • SHOULD BE TAKEN AGAINST "THE NEW YORK TIMES"?

  • YORK TIMES"? WE'RE GOING TO SEE, I'M LOOKING

  • WE'RE GOING TO SEE, I'M LOOKING INTO THAT RIGHT NOW.

  • INTO THAT RIGHT NOW. IT ONLY HAPPENED YESTERDAY, BUT

  • IT ONLY HAPPENED YESTERDAY, BUT I'M LOOKING -- I AM LOOKING.

  • I'M LOOKING -- I AM LOOKING. >> YOU SAID LAST NIGHT THAT IT'S

  • >> YOU SAID LAST NIGHT THAT IT'S TREASON WHAT HAPPENED.

  • TREASON WHAT HAPPENED. IN THIS COUNTRY WE PUNISH

  • IN THIS COUNTRY WE PUNISH TREASON WITH THE DEATH PENALTY.

  • TREASON WITH THE DEATH PENALTY. ARE YOU SERIOUS ABOUT THAT?

  • ARE YOU SERIOUS ABOUT THAT? >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT

  • >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HE HAD, WHAT HE GAVE, WHAT

  • WHAT HE HAD, WHAT HE GAVE, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

  • HE'S TALKING ABOUT. ALSO WHERE HE IS RIGHT NOW.

  • ALSO WHERE HE IS RIGHT NOW. >> JEREMY BASH, YOU WORKED IN

  • >> JEREMY BASH, YOU WORKED IN NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCIES YOUR

  • NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCIES YOUR WHOLE CAREER.

  • WHOLE CAREER. WHAT IS THE NATIONAL SECURITY

  • WHAT IS THE NATIONAL SECURITY IMPLICATION?

  • IMPLICATION? I UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATION OF

  • I UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATION OF HAVING AN UNSTABLE MAN AS OUR

  • HAVING AN UNSTABLE MAN AS OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

  • COMMANDER IN CHIEF. BUT WHAT IS THE NATIONAL

  • BUT WHAT IS THE NATIONAL SECURITY IMPLICATION OF PENNING

  • SECURITY IMPLICATION OF PENNING AN ANONYMOUS OP-ED IN "THE NEW

  • AN ANONYMOUS OP-ED IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES"?

  • YORK TIMES"? >> NOTHING.

  • >> NOTHING. THERE'S NO NATIONAL SECURITY

  • THERE'S NO NATIONAL SECURITY ANGLE.

  • ANGLE. IT'S BASICALLY A MADE-UP

  • IT'S BASICALLY A MADE-UP RATIONALE TO TRY TO, AGAIN, USE

  • RATIONALE TO TRY TO, AGAIN, USE THE APPARATUS OF THE STATE TO GO

  • THE APPARATUS OF THE STATE TO GO AFTER POLITICAL CRITICS.

  • AFTER POLITICAL CRITICS. I MEAN, THERE IS NOTHING THAT

  • I MEAN, THERE IS NOTHING THAT THREATENS NATIONAL SECURITY IN

  • THREATENS NATIONAL SECURITY IN LEGITIMATE CRITICISM OF OUR

  • LEGITIMATE CRITICISM OF OUR POLITICAL LEADERS.

  • POLITICAL LEADERS. IN FACT, I THINK I COULD ARGUE

  • IN FACT, I THINK I COULD ARGUE AND I THINK OTHERS WOULD AGREE

  • AND I THINK OTHERS WOULD AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE A NATIONAL

  • THAT IT WOULD BE A NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS, A CRISIS OF OUR

  • SECURITY CRISIS, A CRISIS OF OUR DEMOCRACY OF EPIC PROPORTIONS IF

  • DEMOCRACY OF EPIC PROPORTIONS IF WE USED THE GOVERNMENT TO

  • WE USED THE GOVERNMENT TO CRACKDOWN ON POLITICAL CRITICS.

  • CRACKDOWN ON POLITICAL CRITICS. SO I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S AN

  • SO I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S AN ABUSE OF POWER TO INVOKE

  • ABUSE OF POWER TO INVOKE NATIONAL SECURITY.

  • NATIONAL SECURITY. AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY AT

  • AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY AT THE FBI, IN THE INTELLIGENCE

  • THE FBI, IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, THE DEFENSE

  • COMMUNITY, THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, OR THE REST OF THE

  • DEPARTMENT, OR THE REST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD

  • PEOPLE WHO ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND

  • THE CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND NATIONAL SECURITY WHO WOULD LIFT

  • NATIONAL SECURITY WHO WOULD LIFT A FINGER NAIL TO ACTUALLY CARRY

  • A FINGER NAIL TO ACTUALLY CARRY OUT THIS UNLAWFUL AND

  • OUT THIS UNLAWFUL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDER.

  • UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDER. >> JONATHAN, WHAT IS YOUR

  • >> JONATHAN, WHAT IS YOUR REPORTING REVEAL ABOUT THE US

  • REPORTING REVEAL ABOUT THE US WHAT AFTER ONE OF THE MOST

  • WHAT AFTER ONE OF THE MOST BRUTAL WEEKS OF THIS PRESIDENCY?

  • BRUTAL WEEKS OF THIS PRESIDENCY? HAD THE WOODWARD BOOK CAME OUT

  • HAD THE WOODWARD BOOK CAME OUT THREE WEEKS AGO, THE BEGINNING

  • THREE WEEKS AGO, THE BEGINNING OF A SHORT WEEK, YOU HAD THE

  • OF A SHORT WEEK, YOU HAD THE PRESIDENT REPORTEDLY FURIOUS

  • PRESIDENT REPORTEDLY FURIOUS THAT THERE WASN'T A MORE ROBUST

  • THAT THERE WASN'T A MORE ROBUST PUSH BACK AGAINST THE WOODWARD

  • PUSH BACK AGAINST THE WOODWARD NARRATIVE AND THE REPORTING,

  • NARRATIVE AND THE REPORTING, AGAIN, FROM PEOPLE WITHIN HIS

  • AGAIN, FROM PEOPLE WITHIN HIS OWN WHITE HOUSE AND THE CABINET.

  • OWN WHITE HOUSE AND THE CABINET. AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS ANONYMOUS

  • AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS ANONYMOUS OP-ED, THE WHITE HOUSE CAUGHT

  • OP-ED, THE WHITE HOUSE CAUGHT FLAT-FOOTED.

  • FLAT-FOOTED. >> OUR REPORTING HITS ALL OF

  • >> OUR REPORTING HITS ALL OF THOSE POINTS.

  • THOSE POINTS. THIS IS A BOOK YOU OBVIOUSLY

  • THIS IS A BOOK YOU OBVIOUSLY KNEW WAS COMING, THERE WAS NO

  • KNEW WAS COMING, THERE WAS NO BALTIMORE L PLAN, NO TALKING

  • BALTIMORE L PLAN, NO TALKING POINTS.

  • POINTS. THEY HADN'T ACQUIRED A COPY OF

  • THEY HADN'T ACQUIRED A COPY OF THE BOOK UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST

  • THE BOOK UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST STORY IN THE WASHINGTON POST RAN

  • STORY IN THE WASHINGTON POST RAN AND THEY READ THROUGH IT AND

  • AND THEY READ THROUGH IT AND STARTED FLIPPING THROUGH IT.

  • STARTED FLIPPING THROUGH IT. WHEN THE OP-ED ARRIVED A SHORT

  • WHEN THE OP-ED ARRIVED A SHORT TIME LATER, THEY WERE AS

  • TIME LATER, THEY WERE AS OBSESSED AS WE WERE FIGURING OUT

  • OBSESSED AS WE WERE FIGURING OUT WHO IT WAS.

  • WHO IT WAS. >> MOST OF THEM WITH THEMSELVES.

  • >> MOST OF THEM WITH THEMSELVES. WAS IT ME?

  • WAS IT ME? >> PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING I

  • >> PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING I TALKED TO, SOURCES DESCRIBED

  • TALKED TO, SOURCES DESCRIBED THESE TEXT CHAINS.

  • THESE TEXT CHAINS. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT MEANS,

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT MEANS, WHO COULD THAT BE, WHO COULD

  • WHO COULD THAT BE, WHO COULD THAT BE?

  • THAT BE? AND ASKING US OUR OPINIONS, WHO

  • AND ASKING US OUR OPINIONS, WHO DO YOU THINK IT COULD BE?

  • DO YOU THINK IT COULD BE? THEY ARE DEFINITELY UNDER SIEGE

  • THEY ARE DEFINITELY UNDER SIEGE NOW.

  • NOW. THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF SOME

  • THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF SOME DEFIANCE.

  • DEFIANCE. WE SAW NIKKI HALEY'S OP-ED THAT

  • WE SAW NIKKI HALEY'S OP-ED THAT DROPPED A SHORT TIME AGO.

  • DROPPED A SHORT TIME AGO. SOMEONE SHOULD PUT THEIR NAME TO

  • SOMEONE SHOULD PUT THEIR NAME TO IT, THEY SHOULD RESIGN.

  • IT, THEY SHOULD RESIGN. SOME PEOPLE FEEL WHOEVER DID

  • SOME PEOPLE FEEL WHOEVER DID THIS, THEIR COLLEAGUE WAS

  • THIS, THEIR COLLEAGUE WAS COWARDLY IN THE WAY THIS

  • COWARDLY IN THE WAY THIS TRANSPIRED IN "THE NEW YORK

  • TRANSPIRED IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES."

  • TIMES." BUT THE PRESIDENT IS OBVIOUSLY

  • BUT THE PRESIDENT IS OBVIOUSLY VERY UPSET, TAKING THIS VERY

  • VERY UPSET, TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.

  • SERIOUSLY. THE WHITE HOUSE HAS TRIED TO

  • THE WHITE HOUSE HAS TRIED TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT TODAY ON

  • PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT TODAY ON HIS COMMENTS THERE, SUGGESTING

  • HIS COMMENTS THERE, SUGGESTING HE WAS JUST OPINING ABOUT

  • HE WAS JUST OPINING ABOUT USING --

  • USING -- >> HE'S NOT OPINING.

  • >> HE'S NOT OPINING. HE'S THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

  • HE'S THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF. IT'S A LUDACRIS DEFENSE.

  • IT'S A LUDACRIS DEFENSE. >> IT'S PHLEGM SI, HIS WORDS

  • >> IT'S PHLEGM SI, HIS WORDS CARRY WAIT.

  • CARRY WAIT. THAT IS HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO

  • THAT IS HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO SLOW WALK A LITTLE BIT.

  • SLOW WALK A LITTLE BIT. I SPOKE TO RUDY GIULIANI ABOUT

  • I SPOKE TO RUDY GIULIANI ABOUT THIS WHO SUGGESTED THE ARGUMENT

  • THIS WHO SUGGESTED THE ARGUMENT MAY BE FLIMSY.

  • MAY BE FLIMSY. HE SAID WHY THERE COULD BE A

  • HE SAID WHY THERE COULD BE A NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERN IS NOT

  • NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERN IS NOT NECESSARILY ANYTHING IN THE

  • NECESSARILY ANYTHING IN THE OP-ED WAS A NATIONAL SECURITY

  • OP-ED WAS A NATIONAL SECURITY SECRET, BUT HIS REASONING WAS

  • SECRET, BUT HIS REASONING WAS SOMEONE WAS WILLING TO DO THAT,

  • SOMEONE WAS WILLING TO DO THAT, PLACE A COVERT OP-ED IN "THE NEW

  • PLACE A COVERT OP-ED IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES," THAT PERSON COULD

  • YORK TIMES," THAT PERSON COULD ALSO REVEAL NATIONAL SECURITY

  • ALSO REVEAL NATIONAL SECURITY SECRETS TO "THE NEW YORK TIMES"

  • SECRETS TO "THE NEW YORK TIMES" OR ANYONE ELSE.

  • OR ANYONE ELSE. >> THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE

  • >> THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE PRESIDENT DOING THAT.

  • PRESIDENT DOING THAT. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT

  • I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S RETURN TO THE

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA'S RETURN TO THE STAGE.

  • STAGE. I THINK WE SAY EVERYONE LOOKS

  • I THINK WE SAY EVERYONE LOOKS EVEN BETTER THAN THEY DID IN THE

  • EVEN BETTER THAN THEY DID IN THE MOMENT IN THE TIME OF DONALD

  • MOMENT IN THE TIME OF DONALD TRUMP.

  • TRUMP. BUT CERTAINLY I HEARD JIM

  • BUT CERTAINLY I HEARD JIM MESSINA SAY PRESIDENT OBAMA WENT

  • MESSINA SAY PRESIDENT OBAMA WENT FARTHER THAN ANYONE THOUGHT HE

  • FARTHER THAN ANYONE THOUGHT HE WOULD DO.

  • WOULD DO. I THINK THAT WAS REALLY A

  • I THINK THAT WAS REALLY A WELCOME MESSAGE FROM DEMOCRATS

  • WELCOME MESSAGE FROM DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, AND IT REUPS

  • AND REPUBLICANS, AND IT REUPS THE QUESTION, WHERE ARE -- WHERE

  • THE QUESTION, WHERE ARE -- WHERE IS CONGRESS?

  • IS CONGRESS? WHY ARE WE SO THIRSTY FOR THIS

  • WHY ARE WE SO THIRSTY FOR THIS MESSAGE, THIS VERY SIMPLE BUT

  • MESSAGE, THIS VERY SIMPLE BUT VERY STRONG REBUKE OF PEOPLE WHO

  • VERY STRONG REBUKE OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T PLAINLY AND EASILY AND

  • CAN'T PLAINLY AND EASILY AND QUICKLY KNOCK DOWN ANYONE THAT

  • QUICKLY KNOCK DOWN ANYONE THAT STANDS WITH NAZIS?

  • STANDS WITH NAZIS? >> I AGREE.

  • >> I AGREE. I THINK THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA WHO

  • I THINK THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA WHO I HAD A LOT OF ACCESS TO AND

  • I HAD A LOT OF ACCESS TO AND STILL STAY IN TOUCH WITH, WENT

  • STILL STAY IN TOUCH WITH, WENT FURTHER THAN I THOUGHT HE WOULD.

  • FURTHER THAN I THOUGHT HE WOULD. >> YEAH.

  • >> YEAH. >> BUT I THINK THAT HE ALMOST

  • >> BUT I THINK THAT HE ALMOST HAD TO FOR THE GOOD OF THE

  • HAD TO FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.

  • COUNTRY. YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS

  • YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS HE FELL ASLEEP WATCHING HIM.

  • HE FELL ASLEEP WATCHING HIM. HE SHOULD WAKE UP AND WATCH WHAT

  • HE SHOULD WAKE UP AND WATCH WHAT A PRESIDENT'S SUPPOSED TO DEAL

  • A PRESIDENT'S SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH.

  • WITH. AND NOT JUST STYLE AND CARRIAGE,

  • AND NOT JUST STYLE AND CARRIAGE, BUT WHAT THE REPUBLIC STOOD FOR.

  • BUT WHAT THE REPUBLIC STOOD FOR. HE VERY METICULOUSLY WENT

  • HE VERY METICULOUSLY WENT THROUGH REPUBLICANS DID THIS AND

  • THROUGH REPUBLICANS DID THIS AND DEMOCRATS DID THIS AND WE'RE AT

  • DEMOCRATS DID THIS AND WE'RE AT A PLACE NOW WHERE IT SHOULDN'T

  • A PLACE NOW WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE ABOUT PARTY.

  • BE ABOUT PARTY. AND HE DEFINED WHAT THE STATE IS

  • AND HE DEFINED WHAT THE STATE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT AND HOW

  • SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT AND HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO OPERATE.

  • IT'S SUPPOSED TO OPERATE. AND TRUMP NEEDS THAT LESSON.

  • AND TRUMP NEEDS THAT LESSON. AND I THINK AMERICANS WERE

  • AND I THINK AMERICANS WERE HUNGRY TO HEAR THAT AND WE DON'T

  • HUNGRY TO HEAR THAT AND WE DON'T SEE THAT LEADERSHIP IN THE

  • SEE THAT LEADERSHIP IN THE CONGRESS NOW.

  • CONGRESS NOW. WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT SEEING IT

  • WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT SEEING IT FROM EITHER SIDE.

  • FROM EITHER SIDE. HE GAVE THE GRAVITAS OF WHAT THE

  • HE GAVE THE GRAVITAS OF WHAT THE AMERICAN DREAM IS SUPPOSED TO BE

  • AMERICAN DREAM IS SUPPOSED TO BE EVEN FOR THOSE OF US THAT DON'T

  • EVEN FOR THOSE OF US THAT DON'T FEEL WE EQUALLY SHARE IN IT.

  • FEEL WE EQUALLY SHARE IN IT. SOMEBODY NEEDED TO BRING US

  • SOMEBODY NEEDED TO BRING US BACK, THOUGH.

  • BACK, THOUGH. >> LET ME PLAY SOMETHING FOR

  • >> LET ME PLAY SOMETHING FOR YOU, OBAMA ON THE REPUBLICANS.

  • YOU, OBAMA ON THE REPUBLICANS. THE STRONGEST IN THE SPEECH.

  • THE STRONGEST IN THE SPEECH. >> ALLIANCES, COZYING UP TO

  • >> ALLIANCES, COZYING UP TO RUSSIA, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE

  • RUSSIA, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?

  • REPUBLICAN PARTY? ITS CENTRAL ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE

  • ITS CENTRAL ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE IN FOREIGN POLICY WAS THE FIGHT

  • IN FOREIGN POLICY WAS THE FIGHT AGAINST COMMUNISM, AND NOW

  • AGAINST COMMUNISM, AND NOW THEY'RE COZYING UP TO THE FORMER

  • THEY'RE COZYING UP TO THE FORMER HEAD OF THE KGB.

  • HEAD OF THE KGB. ACTIVELY BLOCKING LEGISLATION

  • ACTIVELY BLOCKING LEGISLATION THAT WOULD DEFEND OUR ELECTIONS

  • THAT WOULD DEFEND OUR ELECTIONS FROM RUSSIAN ATTACK.

  • FROM RUSSIAN ATTACK. WHAT HAPPENED?

  • WHAT HAPPENED? >> WHAT HAPPENED?

  • >> WHAT HAPPENED? >> YOU SEE HE, THIS IS THE

  • >> YOU SEE HE, THIS IS THE THING.

  • THING. ORDINARILY I WOULD BE VERY LEARY

  • ORDINARILY I WOULD BE VERY LEARY OF A FORMER PRESIDENT FOR BOTH

  • OF A FORMER PRESIDENT FOR BOTH TACTICAL AS WELL AS MORAL

  • TACTICAL AS WELL AS MORAL REASONS ATTACKING HIS SUCCESSOR

  • REASONS ATTACKING HIS SUCCESSOR AS POLITICALLY AND AS

  • AS POLITICALLY AND AS AGGRESSIVELY AS OBAMA WOULD.

  • AGGRESSIVELY AS OBAMA WOULD. I KNOW OBAMA APPRECIATED THE

  • I KNOW OBAMA APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT GEORGE W. BUSH

  • FACT THAT GEORGE W. BUSH MAINTAINED PRETTY MUCH TOTAL

  • MAINTAINED PRETTY MUCH TOTAL RADIO SILENCE, TOOK TO PAINTING,

  • RADIO SILENCE, TOOK TO PAINTING, WHATEVER, DURING HIS PRESIDENCY.

  • WHATEVER, DURING HIS PRESIDENCY. >> AMONG OTHER THINGS.

  • >> AMONG OTHER THINGS. >> THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS DURING

  • >> THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS DURING NORMAL SUCCESSIONS, TRANSFERS OF

  • NORMAL SUCCESSIONS, TRANSFERS OF POWER.

  • POWER. WHAT I THINK OBAMA IS DOING IS

  • WHAT I THINK OBAMA IS DOING IS FILLING A VACUUM THAT HAS BEEN

  • FILLING A VACUUM THAT HAS BEEN LEFT BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

  • LEFT BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ITSELF.

  • ITSELF. WHERE WAS PAUL RYAN SAYING

  • WHERE WAS PAUL RYAN SAYING PRETTY MUCH WHAT OBAMA JUST

  • PRETTY MUCH WHAT OBAMA JUST SAID?

  • SAID? WHERE WAS MITCH McCONNELL?

  • WHERE WAS MITCH McCONNELL? WHERE WERE ANY OF THE LEADERS OF

  • WHERE WERE ANY OF THE LEADERS OF CONGRESS?

  • CONGRESS? THE ONLY ONE WHO STOOD UP, OF

  • THE ONLY ONE WHO STOOD UP, OF COURSE, LATE AND LAMENTED WAS

  • COURSE, LATE AND LAMENTED WAS JOHN McCAIN.

  • JOHN McCAIN. HE PROVIDED THAT LEADERSHIP THAT

  • HE PROVIDED THAT LEADERSHIP THAT IS NOW ABSENT.

  • IS NOW ABSENT. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT IS

  • AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR OBAMA TO STEP UP

  • IMPORTANT FOR OBAMA TO STEP UP BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN ORDINARY

  • BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN ORDINARY TRANSITION.

  • TRANSITION. THIS IS NOT AN ORDINARY PERIOD

  • THIS IS NOT AN ORDINARY PERIOD BECAUSE WHAT OBAMA IS DEFENDING

  • BECAUSE WHAT OBAMA IS DEFENDING ISN'T THIS OR THAT PARTISAN

  • ISN'T THIS OR THAT PARTISAN DEMOCRATIC POLICY.

  • DEMOCRATIC POLICY. HE'S REPRESENTING THE TRADITION

  • HE'S REPRESENTING THE TRADITION OF REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT THAT

  • OF REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT THAT SHOULD TRANSCEND ALL POLITICS

  • SHOULD TRANSCEND ALL POLITICS THAT HE'S SPEAKING AS A

  • THAT HE'S SPEAKING AS A PRESIDENT, NOT AS A LEADER OF

  • PRESIDENT, NOT AS A LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATS.

  • THE DEMOCRATS. >> I HEARD FROM HALF A DOZEN

  • >> I HEARD FROM HALF A DOZEN REPUBLICANS TODAY WHO SAID, MY

  • REPUBLICANS TODAY WHO SAID, MY GOD, WHAT I WOULDN'T GIVE FOR A

  • GOD, WHAT I WOULDN'T GIVE FOR A FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS GUY TO

  • FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS GUY TO GET RID OF DONALD TRUMP

  • GET RID OF DONALD TRUMP TOMORROW.

  • TOMORROW. >> HERE'S THE THING.

  • >> HERE'S THE THING. PRESIDENT OBAMA IS SPEAKING NOT

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA IS SPEAKING NOT JUST AS A GREAT AMERICAN, WHICH

  • JUST AS A GREAT AMERICAN, WHICH I THINK HE IS AND I THINK

  • I THINK HE IS AND I THINK THERE'S A ROLE FOR AS YOU SAID

  • THERE'S A ROLE FOR AS YOU SAID THE GRAVITAS OF THOSE WHO HAVE

  • THE GRAVITAS OF THOSE WHO HAVE THOSE PLATFORMS AND THOSE

  • THOSE PLATFORMS AND THOSE REPUTATIONS TO COME FORWARD.

  • REPUTATIONS TO COME FORWARD. BUT I THINK HE'S ALSO -- IT'S

  • BUT I THINK HE'S ALSO -- IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO HEAR HIS

  • ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO HEAR HIS VOICE BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT AND HE

  • VOICE BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT AND HE SAID THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE

  • SAID THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTIONS IN THE

  • MOST IMPORTANT ELECTIONS IN THE LIFETIME OF THOSE WHO ARE

  • LIFETIME OF THOSE WHO ARE VOTING.

  • VOTING. AND I THINK HE REALLY DOES HAVE

  • AND I THINK HE REALLY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY STILL TO TURNOUT THE

  • THE ABILITY STILL TO TURNOUT THE DEMOCRATIC BASE.

  • DEMOCRATIC BASE. AND IF YOU BELIEVE THAT IT'S

  • AND IF YOU BELIEVE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO ELECT DEMOCRATS

  • IMPORTANT TO ELECT DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS

  • BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS NO LONGER HELD ITS PART OF THE

  • NO LONGER HELD ITS PART OF THE BARGAIN IN AMERICAN DEMOCRACY,

  • BARGAIN IN AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, YOU KNOW, WHICH I DO BELIEVE AT

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