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  • I've become very very interested in the idea of playing in games that have no finish lines.

  • Some games have finish lines: baseball, football, right?

  • Getting a part is a finish line.

  • You audition, there's a beginning, middle and end.

  • There's rehearsal and practice.

  • There's showing up for the audition and you either win or you lose, and then it's over.

  • That is finite.

  • But one's career is infinite.

  • There's no end.

  • It's like our lives are finite,

  • but life is infinite.

  • People come and people go but life continues.

  • Theater.

  • Actors come and actors go but theater continues.

  • It's infinite.

  • You don't win theater.

  • You win a part. But what happens once you get the part?

  • The finite game is over.

  • Now you enter the infinite game, you have to be able to convert.

  • And the reason this is important, and I've seen this unfortunately so many times, from a young age all you wanted to do was get to Broadway.

  • And then you get to Broadway, and then what?

  • You've devoted your entire life to one finite goal.

  • And when you get there, the immediate response is depression.

  • Because I spent 15 years of my life for this one thing,

  • and I got it and now I don't know what to do next.

  • Like what, get to Broadway again?!

  • It doesn't have the same ambition.

  • It doesn't have the same passion.

  • You know, you've devoted your whole

  • You're from Fargo, North Dakota,

  • and that's all you wanted to do is get out of Fargo and make it to Broadway,

  • and you made it.

  • It doesn't have the same kind of passion.

  • And this is because these are finite goals.

  • There's a lot of studies that have been done with athletes who have finite goals.

  • To become the greatest X in the world, right?

  • So Andre Agassi was one of these athletes.

  • He wanted to become the greatest tennis player that ever lived.

  • So guess what?

  • Everyone in his life he would view them through,

  • how do you help me get to that?

  • Everything was "How does this help me get to that?”

  • Everything was a transaction.

  • "How do you help me move to there?"

  • And then you know what happens?

  • He achieved it, he became the greatest tennis player in the world,

  • and you know what happened immediately after?

  • Depression.

  • Michael Phelps set out to become the most medaled Olympian in history.

  • You know what? He achieved it.

  • You know what happened immediately after?

  • Depression.

  • They spend their whole life working for one goal.

  • Though most will never get it,

  • the few that do, don't know what to do next because their goals were finite.

  • Their goals were finite.

  • And so there are finite components to your career,

  • but your career should be infinite.

  • So yes, of course you have to win the finite game.

  • You have to get the part.

  • But immediately when you get the part,

  • now you convert to infinite.

I've become very very interested in the idea of playing in games that have no finish lines.

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