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  • Back in December of 2015 we threw together a budget eight core gaming PC for under a hundred and fifty bucks

  • for the CPU RAM and motherboard. That is still a great deal almost two years later, and we were able to do this

  • Thanks to a couple of things. One:

  • high-end workstation and server equipment is often ahead of the technology curve in certain ways like multi-core processors and

  • Two: the way that businesses upgrade their IT gear on a regular cycle

  • Can lead to big jumps in the supply of

  • This older tech

  • on sites like eBay, where the pricing often ends up much lower than mainstream

  • hardware because it's less familiar to the average consumer and nobody's searching for it. So we thought to ourselves well

  • Now eight core CPUs are like mainstream, so how do we take this concept to another level?

  • Let's build the most badass machine possible

  • using decommissioned server gear

  • What could go wrong? (Boom)

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  • So this video has actually been ongoing since uh,

  • mid May, I mean what the crap? How difficult could it be to source some

  • junky old stuff on eBay and slap it together

  • It's story time

  • So way back then Anthony and I, that was like way early on in his employment here even,

  • we sat down, and we first looked for the biggest baddest motherboard

  • We could possibly find on eBay. The most sockets, the most memory slots, the most

  • actual

  • physical size, and we settled on this: the Supermicro H8QG6F

  • designed for the proprietary

  • SW TX form factor. It checked all the boxes. Four G34 CPU sockets

  • 32 DIMM slots for up to a terabyte of ECC registered ddr3 memory

  • Multiple PCI Express slots and even an on board LSI SAS controller. This thing is in another league!

  • Look at all those connectors, and yes, those are fans on the chipsets

  • plural chipsets

  • Speaking of which the i/o includes three Ethernet port so two gigabit for data and another one for IP mi

  • Which is a remote management interface you can learn more about here.

  • Next up then

  • Choosing a CPU; Or rather four of them. As we pointed out in our hundred and fifty dollar gaming rig video

  • top of the line SKUs for even very old servers are still being sold at a premium but

  • drop down a few tiers and aha

  • There we go the Opteron 6276 with

  • 16 cores each can be had for 30 bucks

  • So we snatched up four of those then we grabbed a case lot of

  • 16 four gigabyte sticks of ECC registered memory giving us

  • quad-channel memory for each of our

  • 4 CPUs

  • That's like 16 channels of memory

  • Hahahahaha. So then at this point we were ready to rip up the performance charts, right?

  • Not really, so not only is this motherboard a crazy form factor

  • That wouldn't even begin to fit in any case or test bench we have here at the office

  • We also needed to track down a power supply with three

  • EPS 12 volt connectors in order to supply power to all of these bloody CPUs

  • I mean even the highest end consumer units only come with two such cables at most so what we ended up doing was

  • frankensteining together the cables from two modular units onto one

  • success

  • So then with that issue you solved we plugged it all in and powered it up

  • Blank screen

  • The board wasn't posting. Now the CPUs are on the supported list so... what gives?

  • well, we ended up shelving it and waiting a couple of months for a slightly stripped down version of the same board it lacks the

  • SAS controller and a few PCIe slots, so that's a bummer

  • But it'll do at least it came with some eight core Opteron 6128 already installed

  • So we were able to use those to fire it up verify it was working then swap our 16 cores in and what?

  • Okay, I'm gonna skip the long version here

  • And it turns out that despite the BIOS reporting that it was the latest revision it

  • Was not so a desperation BIOS flash later, and we were finally in business

  • On an unrelated note anyone want to buy an unexpectedly functional quad socket Opteron board

  • anyone Bueller Bueller

  • Bueller

  • Oh right, no you want to see how it performs first. Huh well with a whopping

  • 64 cores we put it straight head-to-head with Ryzen Thread Ripper and

  • Intel's latest core i9. I mean this thing's gonna win with its eyes closed and one hand behind

  • It's back in the multi-threaded tests right. We'll get to those but first. Let's address the elephant in the video title

  • Gaming

  • It sucks. Like

  • Let me make this abundantly clear

  • This is a 1080 TI running at 1080p

  • So if you've ever wondered what a bottleneck looks like

  • This is it rise of the Tomb Raider in DirectX 12 got 10% of the performance of the core i7 7700 get

  • 10% and it's even worse in csgo, I mean at least it was only half as bad in 3d marking Unigine superposition

  • But I mean if Supermicro is to be believed

  • This is or at least was a machine that was designed to do work not games

  • So will it blend

  • Actually, yeah in blender its 3d rendering prowess doesn't put it quite on the level of Thread Ripper work

  • For i9 but it handily outdoes the Rison 7 1800 x4 roughly the same overall system cost

  • unsurprisingly Cinebench and 7-zip show similar results, but the lack of a VX to support and

  • Relatively low cache per core hinders its high core count significantly compared to its more modern competition

  • even in these multi-threaded workloads and

  • There's more to buying a CPU than just performance too so we tested our thermals with some

  • Noctua nff 12s just sitting on top of the heat sinks that were included with our board and actually

  • this wasn't bad each CPU hit only 55 degrees at the worst in AIDA64 as

  • for that power draw

  • Hone le wow that's a number that only gets trumped by our

  • overclocked

  • 18 core core i9 7980XE extreme edition though in fairness this is

  • 64 cores across four CPUs

  • So bottom line then umm

  • Fun experiment, but did we get our money's worth well given that we bought two boards by accident

  • No, no we didn't but let's play a game where we pretend. We didn't do that for gaming this setup is

  • super dumb, but for productivity

  • Surely doesn't look that bad

  • Even though it is at the bottom of our charts like so all in we paid about

  • eighteen hundred and eighty eight dollars for this ghetto workstation as SPECT

  • Using a motherboard box as an open bench style case now as soon as you buy modern hardware like a 1080 Ti

  • the bottlenecking of that high end gear hurts your overall system value

  • But if all you wanted was CPU performance

  • And you just put like a five dollar graphics card in then our system here actually

  • Delivers better value than Ryzen Thread Ripper, and if we had waited our testing more towards blender

  • We'd have seen an even better price to performance ratio this actually makes for a, a really cool budget blender box

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Back in December of 2015 we threw together a budget eight core gaming PC for under a hundred and fifty bucks

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