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  • SHELLEY: You'll never regret being chaste and virtuous.

  • It's not a thing you will ever regret.

  • And if you think you will, you're wrong.

  • IAN: In the church, we need to talk about chastity.

  • lots of people feel awkward when they bring up this idea

  • up or when your parents bring it up.

  • But we need to talk about it in the correct way.

  • KWAKU: We're gonna talk about sex, pornography,

  • masturbation, and you know what, if you're

  • Googling something you shouldn't be Googling

  • and you got us instead, keep watching, you

  • probably need it.

  • IAN: Yeah, because Shelley's face is a lot

  • more beautiful than those weird Google searches.

  • KWAKU: A lot more beautiful.

  • IAN: When we're talking about chastity,

  • lots of people think, “So how far can I go?"

  • Bad mentality to start out with.

  • That's a bad approach.

  • What you need to think is, “What is chastity,

  • what is virtue, what is purity?"

  • It's when you want to be a good person,

  • number one, but also when we're talking

  • about chastity, you need to feel like you

  • can be close to the Savior.

  • If you're doing something and you don't

  • feel close to the Savior, and it's kinda

  • veering you towards inappropriate thoughts,

  • just take a pivot and go the opposite direction.

  • KWAKU: We've all been in high school and

  • we know when we're having a lot of friends

  • who are having sex and they tell you stories

  • and you're like, “Oh I know her, oh I

  • know him, that's weird.”

  • The thing is, we are a peculiar people.

  • We are a very strange people.

  • We are Latter-day Saints.

  • We do not live by the world's standards.

  • And so this idea that it's not cool or it's

  • silly or it's too hard to wait until you're

  • married to have sex is ridiculous.

  • It's not to hard.

  • It may seem like it's too hard sometimes

  • but what do we believe?

  • We believe that we are children of God and

  • that we are capable of amazing things.

  • And if you're a child of God then you can

  • overcome those sexual pressures.

  • Jesus Christ was nailed to a cross for us.

  • He overcame that.

  • We can overcome some impure thoughts.

  • IAN: I know people really do have a hard time

  • with things like pornography and other things

  • like that.

  • And it can be hard when it gets to the point

  • where it's an addiction.

  • However, our conversation needs to be when

  • people first have those encounters, how can

  • we treat them?

  • What's the right way and what's the wrong

  • way to do it?

  • Cause I think when someone comes up to you

  • and they say, “Hey, this happened to me

  • last week and I saw this...” and we just

  • immediately shun them and we lose friendship

  • with them, that's the wrong way and the

  • right way is, you can come back.

  • SHELLEY: So, like how you were saying about

  • in High School how we're different and in

  • college we're different by not having sex

  • before marriage and all of this stuff--

  • a lot of times people, even members of our own

  • faith, can call you, “Oh you're such a

  • prude for not wanting to do this or you're

  • such a prude for not wanting to do this.”

  • I don't think there's a thing as being too prude.

  • There's no way you're ever inconveniencing

  • somebody else by being comfortable in what

  • you're doing with another person.

  • KWAKU: I just wanted to say, my friends who

  • are not LDS but who have had sex

  • I have a great friend who tells me all the time,

  • Ah, I wish I would've waited until

  • I was married.”

  • Cause now that he's done something which

  • is a very important act,

  • it's a very emotional act, right?

  • It's the act that brings human beings to exist on earth.

  • And if you're just doing it with people

  • you don't love, who you're not going to

  • be with for the rest of your life,

  • it's gonna have an emotional impact on you

  • and you're going to regret it.

  • And he regrets it.

  • I have these conversations all the time where

  • they regret it because they now know,

  • Oh, my children are going to do this and they're

  • going to have these terrible feelings and

  • I've done it.”

  • So if you ever think that you should do it

  • because you have to or because your boyfriend

  • or girlfriend really wants to--

  • IAN: It's a moment of commitment

  • KWAKU: It's not a moment of commitment.

  • It's not.

  • And if that's the only way to keep their love,

  • I don't really think they love you

  • that much, okay?

  • If they can't respect your faith and your

  • conviction, to stay

  • I don't want to use the word pure cause

  • that sounds a bit...

  • SHELLEY: Stay in line with what the Lord wants.

  • KWAKU: Yeah.

  • Then I don't think they're the person

  • you should be with. I don't think so.

  • SHELLEY: You'll never regret being chaste

  • and virtuous. It's not a thing you will ever regret.

  • And if you think you will, you're wrong.

  • IAN: Yeah, and it brings me closer to my wife

  • every single day of my life.

  • It's just so much more gratifying in my

  • heart to know that I am following what the

  • Lord wants me to do and I feel good about it.

  • KWAKU: So, the idea of personal chastity-

  • I have a rule andif you end up kissing me, haha

  • if you play your cards right,

  • you might get to meet Abraham Lincoln and

  • George Washington.

  • You can't kiss for more than a minute.

  • And you know, that's my--

  • Who's Abraham Lincoln and George Washington?

  • IAN: You've left the public not thinking

  • about a minute of kissing but about Abraham Lincoln.

  • KWAKU: Here's why.

  • George Washington brings freedom.

  • But Abraham Lincoln, he'll wreck a country in half.

  • But it'll be really good for ya.

  • SHELLEY: I don't understand!

  • IAN: This is great, keep going.

  • KWAKU: The point is, I actually believe...

  • I will not kiss you longer than a minute.

  • I think like 45 seconds is so long.

  • Some people go for 10 minutes, 15 minutes, and hour

  • I think, from my personal opinion, I don't

  • feel comfortable for going longer than,

  • really than 30 seconds, but a minute is max.

  • You stop then you go get some Chinese food

  • or something

  • IAN: Yeah, and don't kiss after the Chinese food.

  • Shelley: That's a date with KWAKU.

  • Call 1-800-date-with-KWAKU.

  • Ian:One minute kiss and Chinese food you'll never forget

  • Kwaku: Don't get Chinese food before.

  • Then it's like Paul Pot and Jackie Chan.

  • Shelley: When talking about virtue and chastity

  • in broader terms than just like giving yourself specific

  • things and lines that you can't cross when

  • you're making out with a girl or whatever.

  • I heard once that a really big part of chastity

  • is honoring your virtue and honoring his priesthood.

  • Ian: Also, have a conversation with your significant

  • other about chastity if you're not married.

  • Because you don't want it to get to the point where it's

  • "oh we havent established ground rules.

  • Oh this is really awkward and I feel really

  • worried about this." Just don't run into that issue.

  • Pray about them, make sure that there's

  • goals that are set and everything's gonna turn out okay.

  • Kwaku: And I also want to say that we've all probably

  • gone a little farther than we'd like in certain regards.

  • You know you go than a minute, you don't feel good

  • But again, you know, it does not mean you're

  • a bad person, it doesn't mean God loves