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  • >> SiliconANGLE Media presents theCUBE!

  • Covering AlibabaCloud's annual conference.

  • Brought to you by Intel.

  • Now, here's John Furrier...

  • >> Hello everyone, I'm John Furrier, the co-founder of SiliconANGLE, Wikibon, and theCUBE, for

  • our exclusive coverage in Hangzhou, China for Alibaba Cloud Conference here, it's a

  • Cloud Computing Conference.

  • The entire city is a cloud.

  • We're here at the Intel booth with Peter Chen, who's the general manager of Products and

  • Technology, for Data Center Group Sales of Intel Corporation.

  • Peter, AI is the hottest topic, IoT, Alibaba Cloud, I mean, a huge event here mixing, kind

  • of a cultural shift, generational shift, young developers.

  • >> Definitely lots of crowd, you can see people surrounding us, right?

  • So, artificial intelligence is definitely a hot word here in China for the past 12 months.

  • Everybody's trying to figure it out, what's going on, how they can really use them, so

  • we're very excited as well to really partner with Alibaba to really explore some of the

  • potentials.

  • >> I had a chance to speak with some of the Alibaba executives, and obviously, a strategic

  • partnership with Intel, pretty strategic, and it matters what's inside the Cloud.

  • But it's not an Intel inside like a PC.

  • The AI is showing that there's a little bit of Intel on everything, from IoT, industrial

  • IoT to data center.

  • It's a range of technology that's powering a new kind of software.

  • This is where AI is shining.

  • We're seeing that with machine learning and as data driven technology.

  • So, I got to ask you.

  • What is the view from Intel on AI?

  • Obviously, we see the commercials, we see the technology from Intel.

  • How does that translate to your view on AI?

  • What's that view?

  • >> So, essentially today's AI, artificial intelligence, is powered by three factors,

  • the amount of data, the new algorithms, and lastly the compute power.

  • And Intel has historically been the leader of create and compute.

  • So, for the past many years, we has always been generating new compute powers into the

  • cloud and data centers as well as PCs.

  • But going forward as we look at applying AI to different usages like autonomous driving,

  • for example, you cannot expect everything to be done just in the cloud because we need

  • the real data to be inputted from a car, for instance, all the cameras, all the sensors.

  • So, we do definitely see a need of actually faster processors at the edge as well to constantly

  • bring in the data back into the cloud, so they have an autonomous feedback loop, make

  • sure there will be right decision making.

  • >> Yeah, so Cloud drives this, right?

  • So, it's not just Cloud though, it's software.

  • There's exponential growth in open source software that's causing a Renaissance in the

  • developer community.

  • You're seeing it here in China, a lot of young demographics here.

  • Software and data's tsunami going on.

  • You need compute power.

  • >> Yes, yes.

  • I think, everybody knows Intel is a hardware company, but we do have a very large effort

  • on engaging a software ecosystem.

  • From the old days on engaging Linux, the cloud different software stack, and working with

  • CSPs like Alibaba in China to really make sure they can create and write the new latest

  • software AI framework and taking the most advantage of our hardware platform as well.

  • So, that's something that we've been very focusing on.

  • >> And one of the themes here is the IoT for traffic in China.

  • Obviously, if you've been here, you know it's kind of congested.

  • But Alibaba is giving a lot of talks on how they're using data in this cloud city for

  • traffic, which is an example of IoT, Internet of Things, but applied to the real world.

  • That's where the AI kind of connects with the data.

  • Is that kind of where it's going?

  • >> Yeah, so I think this is a great application, as you just mentioned.

  • And Alibaba calls it City Brain.

  • So, essentially, imagine a normal city like in China, can easily go five million, 10 million

  • people.

  • The amount of people and the amount of traffic that goes on the road every day.

  • So, if the city is able to utilize all these videos' stream of data, feedback from different

  • traffic intersections, and be able to direct traffics and control the traffic lights dynamically,

  • using artificial intelligence, you'd actually solve a lot of the city's congestion problem.

  • So, I think this is where we are seeing a lot of application being explored in China,

  • they're using very innovative, different ways by Alibaba.

  • >> Peter, I've got to ask you because one of the things we're seeing in theCUBE and

  • Wikibon Research is the growth of new kinds of ecosystems.

  • Karen Liu, who runs the America's, general manages for America's Alibaba, said to me

  • that ecosystem is super important for Alibaba as an example.

  • But a new kind of ecosystem is developing.

  • Cloud service providers are becoming a new hot growth area because the specialty of building

  • applications in the cloud is not like it was kind of in the old days.

  • You got to have a little bit of a cloud native mindset, but yet, domain expertise, whether

  • it's traffic or a certain vertical solution.

  • So, it's a little bit of both.

  • Always often scalable, yet specialism.

  • This is going to create a lot of opportunities for cloud service providers.

  • What's your view on that from Intel's perspective?

  • How are you guys seeing that market?

  • Do you agree?

  • And what are you guys looking at, at that market?

  • >> So, obviously cloud service provider, the likes of Alibaba or Amazon, are one of our

  • fastest growing customer base over the past five years.

  • And in the near future, we expect this trend to continue to grow.

  • We definitely see CSPs as a leading edge of driving innovation because they are not just

  • the leading edge of driving consumer usages but they also, like the City Brain project,

  • they've been really close on solving the enterprise problem as well with public cloud.

  • So, I think we're very excited to have the opportunity to be a close partner with a CSP

  • like Alibaba to really help them, providing our latest hardware technology to allow them

  • to drive innovation on top of this offer and with the programs and the algorithms.

  • >> How are they, how are those big cloud service providers, or CSPs like Alibaba, they're a

  • big one, they're the fourth cloud in the world, enabling their CSPs?

  • Because I was just talking to someone on the floor here, an ISV in the old world, who was

  • telling me that he's now a cloud service provider, so you have now this nice balance in the ecosystem

  • developing.

  • You guys see the same thing?

  • How do you guys, looking at that?

  • >> So, this is what we call a hybrid situation.

  • So, while the big CSPs like Alibaba, they have a lot of competency and they have a lot

  • of internal engineering, it may not make sense for them to create every single application

  • in the world.

  • So, there may be some legacy enterprise application, for instance, a CRM software in China, maybe

  • it was really popular, for them to forge a collaboration with the leading company Alibaba

  • to translate their on-prem software stack into a cloud solution.

  • So, I think we definitely see a lot of that collaboration happening, to take the best

  • of the best from the legacy as well as the new public cloud environment to really make

  • the better service for the companies and the customers.

  • >> Create ecosystem opportunity.

  • Okay, so I got to ask.

  • What is the Intel relationship that you guys are doing on your end with Alibaba Cloud?

  • Obviously, they're taking names, they're kicking butt.

  • They're doing well.

  • They're going global.

  • They're not just in China.

  • They're the first cloud provider here in China to go outside the mainland.

  • Obviously, they're in the US, they're in Silicon Valley, our backyard.

  • What's the collaboration?

  • Share the relationship.

  • >> We work very closely with Alibaba.

  • Like you said, they're now the leading cloud service provider in China.

  • They're starting going abroad.

  • And we as an ingredient, knowledge provider perspective, we have a very close collaboration

  • with them, sharing with them our technologies on hardware roadmap as well as software enabling

  • to make sure they can take full advantage of it.

  • So, we're very excited to see the growth of Alibaba over the past few years, and we look

  • forward to seeing them continue to expand their business together with us.

  • >> Yeah, great company.

  • So, I got to ask you, one of the collaborations that got my attention was the, I don't want

  • to say hack-a-thon, it was a competition, it was the AI competition called Tianchi that

  • you guys were a part of with Alibaba.

  • What was Intel's role in that?

  • I saw some of the winners earlier.

  • I didn't get a chance to get the specifics, but take me through this AI competition that

  • Alibaba did with these entrepreneurs.

  • >> So, I'm very, actually very excited.

  • I just talked to one of the winning team just now.

  • So, what happened is, when we talk about artificial intelligence, today it's a lot about image

  • recognition, voice recognition but that's just pure technology.

  • So, what Alibaba decide to do, which in terms of partner, is we created a medical image

  • contest.

  • So, we pick a particular subject, for instance, lung cancer and we invited 16 local hospitals

  • to provide some of the image data of the patients anonymously, and then we opened it up for

  • the software ecosystem, the academia, professors, the schools, and say, hey, why don't you come

  • in and try to compete on the image recognition accuracy based on those X-ray images, using

  • these images?

  • So, it takes about six, we have overwhelming turnout.

  • We have about 3,000 teams from 20 different countries applying to join in the contest,

  • and then we just select the winner yesterday.

  • So, basically, the three winning teams, two of them are from the best universities here

  • in China, one of them is from overseas.

  • And again, Intel's role in this is we provide a lot of consultation help.

  • First of all, we provide the hardware system based on our Xeon Phi clusters, and on top

  • of that, we provide a lot of the software tools, Caffe, image recognition libraries,

  • Intel material libraries to really help the contestant to be able to use the Intel hardware

  • for the maximum to drive the best performance.

  • >> And so, you guys provided the technology, Alibaba the Cloud, and let these guys just

  • take.

  • What was the results?

  • Was there any success?