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  • Hurry! Hurry!

  • "O Lord Jesus, You've loved me,

  • redeemed me, saved me out of my sin …"

  • Hurry! Hurry!

  • Stop howling! Stop!

  • Hurry!

  • What law are we breaking if we believe in God?

  • Shut up! Take them all away!

  • What reason do you have for arresting us believers?

  • Hurry!

  • Get in!

  • Without the legal paperwork, you arrest us;

  • you are breaking the law while being in charge of its enforcement! (Shut up!)

  • Dammit, shut your mouth!

  • Mommy, Mommy … (Get out!)

  • Let's go!

  • Mommy! (Go!)

  • Mommy!

  • Mommy! …

  • Sister

  • It's so late, why has the pastor still not come?

  • Oh dear, with weather like this, who knows if he'll come? (Hey! Hey!)

  • Something has happened! Something has happened!

  • Something happened? What happened?

  • Last night at around midnight,

  • just as I was getting ready for bed, I heard something like a dog bark.

  • I looked out the window, and guess what I saw? (What was it?)

  • The next-door neighbors who believe in the Eastern Lightning were arrested and taken away by the police.

  • Oh! It was so frightening, as scary as bandits coming into the village!

  • I saw it, too.

  • I had just gotten to my front door,

  • and I saw a bunch of armed police surrounding the home of Zhang Ming.

  • Oh, it was Zhang Ming's home?

  • The armed police burst in with their guns, searching the home and arresting the people.

  • My heavens, it looked like they were arresting a most-wanted criminal.

  • And even armed police were dispatched?! (Yes.)

  • They did have guns.

  • In China, with the Communist Party in power,

  • it's very difficult to believe in God.

  • Ever since the CCP took control, they have persecuted believers.

  • During the time of the Cultural Revolution alone,

  • many Christians were persecuted to death.

  • True. If we had not been forced to by the CCP,

  • we wouldn't have left our house churches and joined the Three-Self Church.

  • Yes, that's true!

  • I know a number of house-church people who were arrested and put in jail.

  • The CCP has been ruthless in their arrest of believers in the Eastern Lightning.

  • They've been persecuted worst of all.

  • It's true.

  • I hear there are even rewards for informers. (Rewards for informers?)

  • Yes.

  • It is true that a lot of the people from this Eastern Lightning Church have been arrested.

  • It's safest to believe in the Lord in the Three-Self Church.

  • That is true. We can't believe in the Lord in a house church,

  • especially in the Eastern Lightning.

  • That's too dangerous. (That's right.)

  • Hey, I have heard that the Central Committee

  • has sent out numerous secret documents whose focus is striking the Eastern Lightning.

  • Their slogan is "We won't put down our arms until they're eliminated!"

  • It looks like the CCP is set upon banning the Eastern Lightning.

  • Well, what I don't understand is,

  • why the Chinese government arrests and persecutes

  • the Eastern Lightning believers in particular. (Yes, why?)

  • Hey, don't you know that?

  • During these past few years,

  • people in the Eastern Lightning have been spreading the gospel,

  • and they bear witness that the Lord Jesus has returned

  • as none other than Almighty God,

  • doing the work of judgment of the last days.

  • Many good sheep of various denominations have heard the words issued by Almighty God,

  • and firmly believe that it truly is the voice of God,

  • and have become followers of Almighty God.

  • Haven't you seen more and more people accepting the Eastern Lightning?

  • Yes. That's true.

  • The Eastern Lighting Church has developed so quickly,

  • can you say that the Chinese Communist government wouldn't panic?

  • Yes. Indeed.

  • If the Eastern Lightning goes on spreading like this

  • and goes on bearing witness,

  • then a lot of people will believe in Almighty God,

  • and maybe most people of various denominations will accept Almighty God,

  • and many non-believers will accept Almighty God.

  • Can you say that the Chinese Communist government would not be afraid?

  • Couldn't they take the Eastern Lightning as the key target for their crackdown?

  • Sister Zhao speaks the truth.

  • As a teacher she is experienced and knowledgeable,

  • and she is able to see to the heart of things.

  • You are far too kind.

  • Isn't it a good thing that there are more people who believe in God?

  • Does the CCP need to be so worried? (Yes.)

  • Perhaps you are not seeing it clearly.

  • What kind of political party is the CCP? (What political party is it?)

  • It's an atheist political party.

  • What does it fear most?

  • That the common people believe in God.

  • I know that's right. Right.

  • Think about it.

  • If all of the common people believed in God,

  • who would believe in the Communist Party?

  • Yes.

  • Hearing you all talk like this, it seems that's really the truth.

  • Hey, how are you able to understand these matters so clearly?

  • I have read some of the words of Almighty God,

  • so I'm able to understand certain things.

  • Are you saying that you've accepted the Eastern Lightning?

  • I have observed and studied the Eastern Lightning,

  • butbut I have not dared to accept it.

  • I guess that you would not dare accept the Eastern Lightning.

  • The school would have to dismiss you.

  • Right. And not only would you be dismissed,

  • you might be arrested and put in jail some day!

  • Yeah.

  • To tell the truth,

  • I really admire those who believe in the Eastern Lightning.

  • They are able to spread the gospel

  • and bear witness for God under all circumstances.

  • No matter how many have been put in jail,

  • they go spreading the gospel all the time.

  • Yes.

  • On this point, we have no way to compare with them.

  • Indeed.

  • What is there to admire?

  • As I see it, these Eastern Lightning people are fools.

  • Isn't it fine to earnestly practice their faith in secret? (Yes!)

  • They are always out spreading the gospel.

  • Can the CCP not arrest them? (Exactly!)

  • It won't be too late if they just wait until the Communist Party falls from power,

  • and then spread the gospel.

  • As of now,

  • the witnessing from the Eastern Lightning has shaken all of mainland China,

  • and they met with frenzied arrests and persecution by the CCP government,

  • implicating all of the house churches.

  • Even Three-Self churches are in trouble,

  • and some churches have already been sealed up or demolished by the CCP.

  • In my opinion,

  • our Three-Self churches will not have a peaceful time of it,

  • all due to the trouble stirred up by the Eastern Lightning.

  • The Eastern Lightning people are to blame.

  • If not for them spreading the gospel and bearing God's witness as they do,

  • the CCP would not have ramped up the attacks on religious beliefs, (Right!)

  • and we would not need to be so cautious in our belief in the Lord.

  • We have believed in the Lord in the Three-Self Church these years without effort,

  • meeting no hardship or annoyance,

  • and when the Lord returns one day,

  • we will be brought into the kingdom of heaven anyway.

  • Yes, indeed!

  • It was alright until now, in openly spreading the gospel,

  • they have shattered our fond dream of faith in the Lord.

  • That's right.

  • All we were doing in believing in the Lord is trying to get some peace and safety. (Yes.)

  • The CCP arrests Christians so frantically.

  • Yet the Eastern Lightning people

  • spread the gospel and bear witness for God all the time.

  • Wouldn't you say that they are running right into the muzzle of a gun?

  • That's right!

  • Sister Chen, we can't speak this way.

  • Back then, to bear witness for Him,

  • the followers of the Lord Jesus were met with arrests and persecution.

  • Many people sacrificed their lives.

  • That was suffering for righteousness, which is good deeds.

  • Yes, those were righteous deeds.

  • Now,

  • those Eastern Lightning people,

  • despite arrests and persecution by the CCP,

  • dare to openly spread the gospel that the Lord has returned.

  • This is courage. This is confidence.

  • Yes.

  • Upon seeing them bear witness, how do I feel?

  • Two words, "I'm ashamed!"

  • Yes.

  • Some people say that the Eastern Lightning has implicated us

  • and brought us trouble.

  • What would the Lord think if He heard these words?

  • Brother Li,

  • is this not speaking on behalf of the Eastern Lightning people? (Yes.)

  • Whoa, Brother Li,

  • can we conclude that you've accepted the Eastern Lightning?

  • What?

  • If I had accepted it,

  • I would've joined the Eastern Lightning Church.

  • Then would I still be here?

  • I'm in the process of studying the Eastern Lightning.

  • What? You are studying and observing the Eastern Lightning?

  • Returning to the topic, I feel what Brother Li says is right.

  • Though we all believe in God,

  • the Eastern Lightning people abandon everything,

  • put the cross on their backs, and follow God.

  • They are living out the words of the Lord Jesus,

  • and give no thought to their own lives to follow the Lamb.

  • But us? None of us has done that!

  • Yes.

  • I don't like what you are saying.

  • With the CCP government persecuting religious belief so ruthlessly,

  • how many will dare to risk their lives to follow the Lord?

  • That's right!

  • Not only have we not done it,

  • even the pastors and elders have not done it. (True. Yes.)

  • And yet those Eastern Lightning people have done it.

  • Waves of them move bravely forward in teaching about the Lord and bearing His witness.

  • They've spread the gospel of Almighty God all over China proper.

  • They are the ones who earn God's praise.

  • Hey, Brother Zheng, from the tone of your voice,

  • have you accepted the Eastern Lightning?

  • Have you?

  • Oh, how could I dare to?

  • That wife of mine,

  • when she heard I was studying the Eastern Lightning, she complained non-stop.

  • If I really joined, who knows what a ruckus she would kick up!

  • She is afraid that if I believed in the Eastern Lightning, I would be put in jail.

  • To tell you the truth, that is my worry, too.

  • Nonetheless, I believe that the Eastern Lightning is the true way.

  • I prayed to the Lord.

  • When the time and circumstances permit, I will certainly accept it.

  • You make it seem so easy.

  • If the CCP weren't arresting people for it, I would accept it, too. (That's right!)

  • I'm thinking,

  • we practice our faith in the Three-Self because we fear the CCP.

  • Wouldn't you say that this is dragging out a shameful existence,

  • trying to get off easy?

  • If this is how it is,

  • can we go on thinking that the Lord will come and take us into the heavenly kingdom?

  • I feel that it is quite unlikely.

  • Our belief in the Lord within the Three-Self is bringing shame to Him.

  • Shaming the Lord?

  • How can you say this? (Yes.)

  • How?

  • Think about it.

  • We all believe in God,

  • how is it that the Eastern Lightning people are so confident,

  • and we have no confidence?

  • Why do they dare to bear witness for God, and we do not?

  • Those people dare to accept the Eastern Lightning,

  • why, then, do none of us have courage and confidence?

  • It's not as simple as it seems. (Right.)

  • It really is this way.

  • Only after I studied the Eastern Lightning did I learn

  • that they are eating and drinking the actual words of God.

  • The Holy Spirit is at work. That's the main difference.

  • We don't have the confidence or bear witness like they do in the Eastern Lightning,

  • but in our faith,

  • we must bring glory to the Lord in all that we do. (That's right.)

  • If we are thrown in jail and our families broken, is that still a family? (Hardly!)

  • Then unbelievers would laugh at us.

  • This would not bring glory to the Lord.

  • Precisely.

  • If you ask me, we ought to practice our faith in the Three-Self Church.

  • At least we won't be arrested and put in prison.

  • If we believed in the Eastern Lightning, got arrested and put in jail,

  • not to mention all the hardships,

  • we could be tortured to death by the CCP; it's not worth it!

  • Right. Shouldn't we seek peace and safety in our faith in the Lord? (Amen!)

  • The Lord Jesus is loving and merciful.

  • He knows that we are of small stature and forgives our weakness.

  • When the Lord comes,

  • He certainly will receive us into the kingdom of heaven.

  • And so, we should believe the Lord's promise. (Amen!)

  • Yes. It should be the case.

  • It seems to me there are some things you haven't understood clearly.

  • In our faith in the Lord in the Three-Self,

  • we must have correct self-assessment.

  • Would you say that the Three-Self Church is a church at all?

  • Do you even have to ask this?

  • If it is not a church, what else could it be?

  • Do you know why the CCP does not persecute people in the Three-Self churches?

  • But why? Why?

  • The Three-Self Church is controlled by the CCP satanic regime.

  • Everything is supervised under the United Front Work Department.

  • It's hard to say whether the Lord would recognize the Three-Self Church as a church at all.

  • How could He not?

  • Aren't all who call on the Lord's name recognized? (Right.)

  • Was the Three-Self Church set up by the disciples dispatched by the Lord?

  • Not in the least!

  • The Three-Self Church was set up by the CCP.

  • How could the Lord recognize a church that was set up by Satan?

  • It was set up by Satan?!

  • The Three-Self Church was created by Satan?!

  • I have never heard that before.

  • As the CCP sees it,

  • people like us who surrender to Satan and join the Three-Self

  • don't truly believe in God.

  • The CCP is basically not watching us at all.

  • The ones who the CCP most admire are the Eastern Lightning people,

  • because the CCP government most fears a church in which the Holy Spirit is at work,

  • a church that has truth and bears God's witness.

  • We, in the Three-Self Church, are not persecuted,

  • yet the Three-Self Church is full of secularism,

  • following world trends, without the work of the Holy Spirit.

  • Can we who believe in the Lord here get into the heavenly kingdom?

  • Right, speaking pure truth, talking of Revelation

  • is not allowed in the Three-Self Church.

  • How is it possible to attain truth and life in this way? (Yes.)

  • Honestly, a person like me, I understand everything.

  • It's just that I don't have the courage to accept the work of the last days of Almighty God.

  • So how could I be raptured into the kingdom of heaven!

  • As soon as I think of these things,

  • I often pray to the Lord, confessing my sins, asking His mercy.

  • In the Three-Self, we believe in the Lord, not in the Communist Party.

  • As long as we hold onto the name of the Lord and endure to the end,

  • He won't abandon us.

  • This is how I see it, too.

  • Does it matter where one practices his faith?

  • Why make it so complicated? (Right!)

  • Sister Lyu, I used to think the way you do.

  • Later, I read what the Lord Jesus said in the Bible:

  • Amen!

  • I began to ponder, getting into the kingdom of heaven is conditional.

  • More is needed to get into the kingdom of heaven

  • than holding onto the Lord's name and having places to gather.

  • We hide in the Three-Self Church,

  • not daring to bear witness for the Lord.

  • Would you say that this is doing God's will?

  • Would we be qualified to be taken into the heavenly kingdom when the Lord comes?

  • Having said this much, I have a few sentences to add.

  • It is not at all simple to be brought into the kingdom of heaven.

  • That's right.

  • While studying the Eastern Lightning,

  • I was able to see a few things more clearly.

  • Now is the time for welcoming the arrival of the Lord.

  • If we can't hear the voice of the Lord,

  • or follow God's footsteps and attend the wedding feast of the Lamb,

  • we won't get into the kingdom of heaven.

  • Peter once said,

  • There is a deep mystery to this.

  • Deep mystery?

  • What deep mystery?

  • Judgment beginning with God's house refers to the work done

  • when the Lord returns to express truth and to judge and purify people.

  • Those people who hear God's voice, who come before God's throne

  • will first go through judgment and be purified.

  • These people who follow the Lamb

  • will certainly suffer hardships and be rejected.

  • Yes.

  • This is the fulfillment of text from Revelation:

  • These verses of scripture say that only those in the Lamb's book of life

  • will have a place in the kingdom of heaven.

  • The people in the Church of Almighty God who endure the persecution by the CCP

  • and are able to resolutely follow and bear witness for Christ,

  • I feel that they must be the ones who emerge from the great tribulation.

  • Only they are the overcomers whom God wishes to make,

  • and the ones who have a place in the Lamb's book of life.

  • They are qualified to enter the kingdom of heaven.

  • We, in the Three-Self, drag out a shameful existence,

  • not bearing any witness.

  • We keep the name of the Lord Jesus, but we don't follow Christ.

  • Yet we expect the Lord to receive us into the kingdom of heaven.

  • This is like getting married in dreams—a wishful thinking!

  • Hearing you talk like this, are you saying that

  • all those who believe in the Lord within the Three-Self Church

  • are cowardly people?

  • Yes!

  • We also recognize the name of the Lord,

  • we pray, and we read the Bible.

  • Then why would you say we are a cowardly people? (Right.)

  • Yes, we truly believe in the Lord.

  • Our joining the Three-Self has the words of Paul in the Bible as its foundation,

  • Could the Lord condemn us as cowardly people?

  • We must understand what it means to be cowardly.

  • It cannot be explained literally, and rules can't be applied carelessly.

  • Is there a basis for this in the Bible?

  • As I remember,

  • there is a phrase in Revelation that refers to cowardly people.

  • I will read it aloud for you.

  • Oh, good!

  • The words of the Lord say clearly

  • that cowardly people will not get into the kingdom of heaven,

  • but will descend into the lake of fire and suffer eternal punishment.

  • Then what really is a cowardly person?

  • I still don't really know.

  • Hey, Brother Li, perhaps you can explain it more.

  • Yes, please talk about it some more.

  • I'll talk a bit about my own understanding.

  • Good.

  • Cowardly people are like this:

  • First, they don't publicly dare to acknowledge the name of the Lord,

  • and they don't dare to follow the Lord.

  • This certainly is cowardly.

  • Yes.

  • Second, they don't dare to spread the gospel and bear God's witness.

  • They fear being put in jail.

  • Right. This is a coward.

  • Third, according to the Lord:

  • When the Lord returns,

  • He will suffer persecution and be forsaken by the generation.

  • True.

  • If we fear persecution

  • and are not daring to accept Christ of the last days,

  • and not daring to follow the Lord,

  • if we only acknowledge Him within our own hearts,

  • what significance does it have?

  • I believe that anyone who fits these descriptions is a cowardly person.

  • Brother Li's discussion is really detailed.

  • Presenting this way is really enlightening. (Yes.)

  • Is a cowardly person like this following the will of God?

  • No, he's not.

  • Does a cowardly person have glorious witness?

  • No, indeed!

  • And can a cowardly person enter into the kingdom of heaven?

  • They certainly cannot.

  • So it appears that most of us who believe in the Lord in the Three-Self Church

  • are cowardly people. (Right.)

  • Brother Li,

  • you say that a coward does not dare recognize the name of the Lord in front of others.

  • I endorse this.

  • But to say that a person who does not accept the Eastern Lightning is a cowardly person,

  • I cannot accept this. (I say Amen to what Brother Zhang just said.)

  • Brother Zhang, the Lord Jesus says plainly in the Bible:

  • What I gather is this:

  • This refers to us not acknowledging the Lord in front of others,

  • it mainly refers to how we do not acknowledge the Lord's return in the last days

  • for fear of persecution.

  • Many people in religious circles now know

  • that the Eastern Lightning has truth and is the true way,

  • that Almighty God is the return of the Lord Jesus.

  • Because the CCP persecutes the Eastern Lightning, they dare not accept it.

  • Isn't that not daring to acknowledge the Lord in front of others? (Yes.)

  • Isn't such a person a cowardly person?

  • That is how it is.

  • I see it clearly.

  • If we want to get into the kingdom of heaven, we must risk our lives.

  • Didn't the Lord Jesus say that

  • "For whoever will save his life shall lose it:

  • and whoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it" (Matthew 16:25)?

  • Amen!

  • Though we are not persecuted

  • as we believe in the Lord within the Three-Self,

  • we will not be able to welcome the Lord

  • and ultimately will not get into the kingdom of heaven.

  • Is this not fetching water with an empty basket?

  • Yes, this is practicing faith in vain.

  • It certainly is.

  • Having brought this up,

  • our belief in the Lord in the Three-Self will not get us into the kingdom of heaven.

  • In China, to believe in Christ and follow the Lamb really is to be persecuted!

  • Cowardly people certainly will not get into the kingdom of heaven.

  • How should we face up to this situation?

  • If we wait until the CCP falls from power and then follow the Lamb,

  • we will have missed the chance to attend the banquet and be perfected.

  • If we value our lives too highly, we'll not only lose our life,

  • but will miss the blessing of going to the kingdom of heaven.

  • That's right.

  • To get into the kingdom of heaven,

  • we must risk our life and follow the Lord. (Amen!)

  • This possibly is the meaning of bearing the cross to follow the Lord.

  • And how do the Eastern Lightning people follow God?

  • I wonder too

Hurry! Hurry!

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