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  • A lot of people believe

  • that the things I talk about

  • had been talked about in the past.

  • When I was a member of 'Technocracy'

  • they said they had blueprints for the future.

  • I never saw any. I asked to see them.

  • The only blueprint they had was a rough [outline]

  • on the continental hydrology, irrigation

  • but no real detail on it.

  • How the lift locks work on the canal or anything.

  • I asked Scott how he felt about circular cities.

  • He said "No, I believe in linear cities."

  • And he did not question "Why circular cities?"

  • He just told me that we're going to use linear cities:

  • cities in a line.

  • If you start here and you go through the whole city

  • you have to go back to where you started from.

  • In the circular arrangement, if you go around

  • you come back to where you started. You don't need to go back

  • and your car is there.

  • In a circular plan, or distribution center

  • there are areas marked:

  • refrigeration, air conditioning, whatever it is; and you park your car

  • adjacent to that, instead of just parking in a big parking lot.

  • You have to then walk over to the shoe department

  • or the eyeglass department.

  • This way it's marked on the outside of the circle what's in there.

  • So you park adjacent to that area.

  • If more people use the food shopping area

  • there's a larger parking area for that.

  • But the only way to find out is:

  • how many people a day go to the food area?

  • What percentage go to the eyeglass area?

  • So the parking areas are based on that, not Fresco's decision.

  • What people have to understand

  • is how statistics are gathered;

  • how they're decided upon, and that's by the behavior of people.

  • If most people go to the childrens' center

  • that has the largest parking area.

  • If, later on, the schools become more efficient

  • they work with less students at a time.

  • The optimum amount of students depends on their age.

  • The older people get, the more they understand if they're exposed.

  • But children... You take a lot of children

  • and you talk to them like I'm talking to you

  • and you get feedback from the children.

  • The kind of feedback you get from the children

  • determines how many children you can effectively change

  • within the given time.

  • If you find out that you should have no more than 15 kids at a time

  • depending on how sophisticated the subject is

  • you have to try it and find out how it works.

  • And then when you write your conclusions

  • you say "In the system that I use

  • a certain number of children seem to learn faster.

  • I haven't tried 17 different systems yet.

  • There may be other conclusions. We welcome them."

  • (Roxanne) To me, to summarize this, it's saying

  • "Why don't you give your technology away today?"

  • I'm giving you everything I think they need

  • to make this jump.

  • Now they ask "Why don't you give your ideas away

  • and make them available? After all

  • what you're trying to do is make the world a better place;

  • so if you choose, just give your ideas away."

  • If I design a round city

  • and I gave it away, it'll be a commercial city.

  • You couldn't move in unless you pay so much a week.

  • See, like there's so many dentists in that city

  • so many barbers not a whole bunch of barbers

  • the amount of barbers needed to take care of that city.

  • But they will rent it out at a high price

  • because opening a restaurant in that city is a sure thing

  • because there's 5,000 people. Do you understand?

  • So it becomes commercial and damaged.

  • They say "Well, what about the good that it does?"

  • Well, let's take a helicopter. It could be used as an ambulance

  • or for machine-gunning people.

  • Most helicopters are used for military purposes;

  • machine-gunning people.

  • The laser beam can be used to diminish the effects of

  • optical disorders.

  • I mean, ophthalmology.

  • Lasers can be used in surgery.

  • They can also be connected to weapons.

  • If the laser beam is on the person, the bullets come out.

  • We have no evidence to support ideas

  • that were put out there for free.

  • And there are people who say "Well, Fresco really doesn't believe in

  • having his name put out there."

  • I do when it comes to a book that I wrote.

  • If people ask me questions, I can answer them.

  • But if another guy copies my book

  • word for word and

  • he gets a credit for that;

  • and people ask him "What do you do about this or about that?"

  • They don't have that kind of background. They can't answer questions.

  • But if you check with history, not Fresco

  • you'll find that Louis Pasteur

  • recommended vaccination. It never was a team of scientists.

  • You find that the Wright brothers

  • really developed the first powered flying machine.

  • So you can go and write to the Wright brothers and say

  • "How do you make your propeller?

  • How much pitch does it have? " Only they know because they made it.

  • You have to go to Edison, saying

  • "How do you know how much of a vacuum to put in a glass lamp?

  • How do you decide the elements you use?"

  • You have to have to go to Edison. The gas company can't tell you that.

  • When I was a kid there were people who went around the streets

  • lighting the gas lamps that were all along the street.

  • He was a lighter, with a long pole, and he lit those lamps.

  • Then, when Edison's system came out

  • he had to instruct people as to how it worked.

  • When Tesla invented the Tesla Coil, he had to instruct people.

  • But if another guy lifted it

  • and he says "What's the resistance of the wires in that?"

  • They didn't know, only Tesla knew.

  • So it seems that in history

  • Einstein's theory of relativity

  • Pasteur, Darwin's theory of evolution

  • as against a religious concept.

  • Is it perfect? No. But it's a hell of a lot greater.

  • And Darwin spent many years

  • trying to put this stuff together.

  • I'm not against teaching people physics and science. That's fine.

  • That's the elements for putting things together.

  • The books that I read by other people

  • did not have all the answers. Semantics never touched the social system.

  • Jacques Loeb informed us

  • a great deal about plant tropism, geotropism

  • all these things that we knew little about

  • but Jacques Loeb was associated with it.

  • So when you have the nuclear program

  • to develop the atom bomb, there were always people in charge

  • like Oppenheimer; he was in charge of nuclear research.

  • Einstein's formula helped in nuclear research.

  • There were many lead scientists that directed that.

  • When you went to Germany, you'd find Wernher Von Braun

  • as head of rocketry.

  • Why was he head? Because others didn't experiment.

  • He experimented before it became necessary to build rockets.

  • He belonged to a young German group

  • in which they experimented with rockets.

  • When Hitler got in, Hitler backed him.

  • But Wernher Von Braun had to educate

  • all the scientists that knew nothing about rockets.

  • Where did he get the ideas from? Dirty, hard work, with no financing.

  • There was an American scientist named Goddard

  • who spent his own money on rocket development

  • and he was able to get rockets to go up a mile high

  • and people thought he was a dreamer.

  • And he said "If I talked about rockets in the scientific community

  • I was looked upon as a foolish person

  • who was not practical. " Do you understand?

  • Are scientists the prime judge of things?

  • No, they're not. You have to ask Goddard

  • "How do you make your fuel combust?"

  • In other words, when you launch a rocket

  • with, say, 20 pounds of propellant

  • you're lifting that 20 pounds of propellant up there.

  • So the theory of rockets is to burn all the fuel you can

  • and get the most propulsion, so you're not lifting up the fuel, too.

  • If you fill to your car with gasoline to get to California

  • you're not going to get as many miles by filling it as you go.

  • Otherwise, you're carrying the gasoline with you.

  • Somebody who found that out, we should know who he is

  • so we could question him. But

  • what happens is, it appears, that

  • some members of The Zeitgeist Movement

  • and The Venus Project think that Fresco

  • picked up all these ideas from books. No, he didn't.