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  • EVENING'S DEBATE.

  • AND WE JUST UNDER TWO WEEKS LEFT

  • IN THE CAMPAIGN, THERE'S A LOT

  • ON THE LINE FOR EVERYONE

  • TONIGHT.

  • SO SETTLE IN.

  • I'M PLEASED TO BE JOINED BY THE

  • LEADERS OF BC'S THREE MAJOR

  • POLITICAL PARTIES.

  • WE HAVE THE LIBERALS' CHRISTY

  • CLARK.

  • THE GREENS' ANDREW WEAVER.

  • AND JOHN HORGAN FROM THE NDP.

  • WELCOME TO YOU ALL.

  • >>> I WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW THE

  • NEXT 90 MINUTES WILL UNFOLD.

  • WE WILL BEGIN WITH OPENING

  • STATEMENTS IN JUST A MOMENT.

  • WE HAVE CONSULTED WITH SOME OF

  • THE TOP POLITICAL OBSERVERS IN

  • THE PROVINCE TO FORMULATE

  • QUESTIONS TAILORED TO EACH

  • SPECIFIC LEADER.

  • THERE WILL BE A PORTION OF THE

  • DEBATE WHERE THE LEADERS WILL

  • HAVE A CHANCE TO QUESTION AND

  • DEBATE EACH OTHER ON THREE MAJOR

  • THEMES AND OTHER HOT TOPICS.

  • AND THERE ARE, OF COURSE,

  • QUESTIONS FROM AVERAGE BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS.

  • WE ARE GOING TO BE OBSERVING

  • SOME STRICT RULES OF ORDER.

  • THERE ARE TIME SEQUENCES AND WE

  • ARE USING A CLOCK.

  • IF THE LEADER GOES OVER THE

  • ALLOTTED TIME, THEIR MIC WILL BE

  • CUT.

  • THERE WILL BE TIME FOR FREE

  • DEBATE BETWEEN THE LEADERS.

  • WE HAVE DECIDED ONLY TWO LEADERS

  • WILL BE ALLOWED TO DEBATE AT A

  • TIME.

  • THIS WAS A FORMAT THAT WAS

  • AGREED TO BY THE POLITICAL

  • PARTIES AND BY THE MEMBERS OF

  • THE BROADCAST CONSORTIUM.

  • SO LET'S GET UNDERWAY.

  • >>> THE ORDER OF THE EVENING HAS

  • BEEN PREARRANGED IN A DRAW WITH

  • ALL THE PARTIES AND OPENING

  • REMARKS WILL BE ONE MINUTE IN

  • LENGTH EACH.

  • GOING FIRST IS THE NDP'S JOHN

  • HORGAN.

  • Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

  • >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER, AND

  • THANK YOU TO THOSE VIEWERS WHO

  • ARE TUNING IN TONIGHT.

  • >>> IN THIS ELECTION, YOU HAVE A

  • CLEAR CHOICE.

  • FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE

  • GOVERNMENT WORKING FOR THE

  • PEOPLE AT THE TOP OR A

  • GOVERNMENT THAT'S WORKING FOR

  • YOU.

  • OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS,

  • LIFE HAS BEEN GETTING MORE

  • DIFFICULT.

  • YOU ARE WORKING HARDER BUT NOT

  • GETTING AHEAD.

  • MEDICAL SERVICES PREMIUMS KEEP

  • GOING UP, HYDRO RATES KEEP GOING

  • UP, HOUSING COSTS ARE OUT OF

  • CONTROL.

  • THE SERVICES THAT YOU COUNT ON

  • AREN'T THERE FOR YOU WHEN YOU

  • NEED THEM, AND THE JOBS THAT WE

  • COUNTED ON ARE DISAPPEARING AND

  • BEING REPLACED BY LOW-WAGE,

  • PART-TIME WORK.

  • I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD FOUR

  • MORE YEARS OF CHRISTY CLARK AND

  • HER RICH DONORS CALLING THE

  • SHOTS.

  • I BELIEVE THERE'S A BETTER WAY.

  • WE CAN HAVE A BRITISH COLUMBIA

  • THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.

  • I WANT TO SEE AN AFFORDABLE

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA WHERE SERVICES

  • THAT YOU COUNT ON ARE THERE FOR

  • YOU AND AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS

  • FOR EVERYBODY.

  • THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP HAVE HAD

  • THEIR PREMIER.

  • IT'S TIME YOU HAD ONE THAT WORKS

  • FOR YOU.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU VERY

  • MUCH, Mr. HORGAN.

  • >>> LET'S MOVE ON NOW TO ANDREW

  • WEAVER FROM THE GREENS.

  • HE HAS THE NEXT SPOT.

  • YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR

  • JOINING US HERE TONIGHT FOR THE

  • DEBATE TONIGHT.

  • YOU KNOW, I'M THRILLED TO BE

  • GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE

  • WITH YOU OUR EXCITING VISION OF

  • A PROSPEROUS FUTURE FOR OUR

  • BEAUTIFUL PROVINCE.

  • LIKE THE REST OF OUR EXCEPTIONAL

  • TEAM, I AM NOT A CAREER

  • POLITICIAN.

  • I HAVE COME TO THIS AS A

  • SCIENTISTS, FOR MOST OF MY LIFE,

  • I HAVE BEEN AN EDUCATEDOR AND A

  • SCIENTIST.

  • JUST FIVE YEARS AGO, I WOULD

  • NEVER HAVE IMAGINED MYSELF AS A

  • LEADER OF A POLITICAL PARTY, BUT

  • AFTER YEARS OF CHALLENGING MY

  • STUDENTS TO BE MORE ENGAGED IN

  • OUR DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS, IF

  • THEY WANTED TO FACILITATE

  • CHANGE, I REALIZED I NEEDED TO

  • TAKE MY OWN ADVICE.

  • AND SO WHEN JAMES DIRK, THE

  • FORMER LEADER OF THE BC GREENS,

  • ASKED ME FOR THE FOURTH TIME IF

  • I WOULD RUN, I SAID YES.

  • SO SINCE BEING ELECTED I HAVE

  • TRAVELLED ACROSS BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA AND WHEREVER I HAVE

  • GONE, BRITISH COLUMBIANS HAVE

  • SAID THE SAME THING.

  • THEY ARE DESPERATE FOR A NEW

  • VISION FOR THIS PROVINCE AND

  • THAT THEY CAN VOTE FOR RATHER

  • THAN BEING TOLD WHAT THEY SHOULD

  • BE VOTING AGAINST.

  • TONIGHT I'M EXCITED TO BE GIVEN

  • THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE BC

  • GREEN VISION WITH YOU.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • >>> LET'S MOVE TO LIBERAL

  • LEADERICS CHRISTY CLARK.

  • YOU HAVE 60 SECONDS.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • AND THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN

  • TONIGHT.

  • I KNOW HOW BUSY EVERYBODY IS.

  • AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL

  • THAT YOU DO TO HELP BUILD A

  • STRONG BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • YOU KNOW, DOING WHAT IS RIGHT

  • ISN'T ALWAYS DOING WHAT'S

  • POPULAR.

  • BUT DOING WHAT'S RIGHT IS

  • WORKING.

  • IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, WE ARE

  • NUMBER ONE IN ECONOMIC GROWTH,

  • NUMBER ONE IN JOB CREATION.

  • OUR HEALTHY OUTCOMES ARE AMONGST

  • THE BEST IN THE WORLD, AND OUR

  • STUDENTS SCORE AMONGST THE BEST

  • IN THE WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO

  • THEIR TEST RESULTS.

  • WE ARE CONTROLLING SPENDING AND

  • THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN INVEST IN

  • HEALTH CARE, IN HOSPITALS, IN

  • SCHOOLS, IN ROADS AND

  • INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT GOING

  • INTO DEFICIT.

  • WE ARE DOING THIS TOGETHER.

  • BUT IN THE FACE OF RISING

  • PROTECTIONISM IN THE

  • UNITED STATES, THE QUESTION IN

  • THIS ELECTION IS WHICH LEADER

  • HAS THE SKILLS TO LEAD US IN THE

  • TIME OF UNCERTAINTY.

  • WHICH OF US WILL PROTECT AND

  • PRESERVE JOBS FOR BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS, TO SECURE A STRONG

  • BC AND A BRIGHT FUTURE?

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms.

  • CLARK.

  • AND THANK YOU ALL FOR STAYING TO

  • TIME.

  • WE WANT TO NOW FOCUS ON THREE

  • MAJOR THEMES TO BEGIN THIS

  • DEBATE IN EARNEST AND WE ASKED

  • FOR INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE OF BC

  • AND RECEIVED AN OVERWHELMING

  • RESPONSE.

  • THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR THEME

  • THAT EMERGED RIGHT OFF THE TOP.

  • THAT WAS THE HIGH COST OF

  • HOUSING IN THIS PROVINCE.

  • GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

  • PETER DENT FROM KAMLOOPS WROTE

  • THAT HIS TWO UNIVERSITY-EDUCATED

  • KIDS SAY THEY JUST CANNOT AFFORD

  • TO BUY IN THE LOWER MAINLAND AND

  • SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO MOVE

  • SOMEWHERE ELSE IN CANADA.

  • THIS WAS A THEME ECHOED OVER AND

  • OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND LED US

  • TO CHOOSE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY

  • AS OUR FIRST TOPIC.

  • SO THE PARTIES HAVE DRAWN FOR

  • SPOTS.

  • AND THE FIRST QUESTION FROM THE

  • CONSORTIUM GOES TO JOHN HORGAN

  • OF THE NDP.

  • Mr. HORGAN, YOUR PARTY HAS BEEN

  • PREPARING TO BECOME GOVERNMENT

  • FOR SOME 16 YEARS NOW.

  • AND AS PART OF YOUR PLAN TO MAKE

  • HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE, YOU

  • HAVE SUGGESTED A $400 REBATE FOR

  • RENTERS.

  • NOW, WE DID THE MATH.

  • THAT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT $33 A

  • MONTH.

  • CAN YOU TELL US HOW WILL THAT

  • MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO HOUSING?

  • YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS TO RESPOND.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

  • AND THE HOUSING RENTER REBATE IS

  • JUST ONE PART OF A MULTIFACETED

  • PLAN TO MAKE LIFE MORE

  • AFFORDABLE FOR BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS.

  • WE HAVE BEEN RAISING ALARM BELLS

  • ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF HOUSING

  • IN BRITISH COLUMBIA FOR THE PAST

  • THREE YEARS.

  • AND WHAT WE GOT BACK FROM THE BC

  • LIBERALS WAS STONED FACES.

  • NO DESIRE TO TAKE ACTION TO STOP

  • THE FLOOD OF SPECULATIVE MONEY

  • COMING INTO THE MARKETPLACE AND

  • DRIVING UP THE COST OF HOMES

  • HERE IN METRO VANCOUVER.

  • AND IN FACT, RIGHT ACROSS

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • THE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT IS THAT

  • WE HAVE A SEEN $600,000 INCREASE

  • IN THE COST OF A SINGLE-FAMILY

  • HOME BETWEEN 2014 AND 2016.

  • IF YOU CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO

  • BUY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND

  • A PLACE TO RENT, BUT WE CAN'T DO

  • THAT EITHER.

  • 15,000 BRITISH COLUMBIANS ARE ON

  • THE WAIT LIST AT BC HOUSING

  • LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

  • WE BROUGHT IN THE RENTERS REBATE

  • TO MATCH THE HOMEOWNER GRANT

  • WHICH HAS BEEN IN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA FOR OVER 50 YEARS NOW.

  • IF HOMEOWNERS CAN GET A BREAK

  • FOR OWNING A HOME, WE FEEL THAT

  • RENTERS DESERVE A BREAK AS WELL.

  • IT'S $400.

  • IT CAN GO A LONG WAY TO HELP

  • PEOPLE PUT A FEW MORE DOLLARS IN

  • THEIR POCKET WHILE THEY ARE

  • TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE.

  • WE ALSO WANT TO CLOSE THE

  • LOOPHOLES OF THE ACT THAT ALLOW

  • BAD LANDLORDS TO MAKE IT

  • EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR TENANTS

  • BY MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE TO

  • STICK TO LEASES, THE RENOVICTION

  • AND DEMOLITION ISSUES OVER THE

  • LOWER MAINLAND.

  • THE LEADERS OF THE LIBERALS HAVE

  • FAILED TO ADDRESS THOSE BIG

  • ISSUES.

  • >> Jennifer: CHRISTY CLARK IS

  • UP NEXT.

  • YOUR GOVERNMENT DENIED THERE WAS

  • A PROBLEM WITH THE HOUSING

  • MARKET FOR A LONG TIME.

  • WHY DIDN'T YOU INTERVENE SOONER?

  • >> YOU KNOW, THE THING ABOUT

  • HOMEOWNERSHIP IS FOR PEOPLE WHO

  • ALREADY OWN A HOME, YOU HAVE A

  • LOT OF EQUITY IN THAT HOME.

  • IT IS YOUR INVESTMENT AND IT'S

  • SOMETHING YOU WANT TO PROTECT.

  • SO IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT

  • OUR GOVERNMENT MADE SURE WE DID

  • ALL OF OUR HOMEWORK BEFORE WE

  • MOVED WITH A 15% TAX ON FOREIGN

  • BUYERS WHICH HAS HAD EXACTLY THE

  • EFFECT THAT WE HOPED IT WOULD.

  • WE MOVED ON A LUXURY TAX FOR

  • HOMES OVER $2 MILLION, AND NOW

  • WE ARE HELPING FIRST-TIME HOME

  • BUYERS, 42,000, WITH A LOAN OF

  • UP TO $37,500 FOR EACH OF THEM

  • TO HELP GROUP TOGETHER THAT

  • ALL-IMPORTANT DOWN PAYMENT.

  • THE NDP WANT TO SCRAP THAT PLAN

  • AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS THEY

  • WANT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE STAYING

  • IN RENTAL HOMES WITH A DOLLAR A

  • DAY.

  • EVEN THE NDP'S CANDIDATES SAY

  • THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A DROP

  • IN THE BUCKET.

  • I THINK MOST OF US WANT OUR KIDS

  • TO BE ABLE TO OWN THEIR OWN

  • HOME.

  • THEY DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT,

  • JOHN HORGAN, AS THEIR LANDLORD.

  • THEY WANT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE THAT

  • BELONGS TO THEM.

  • THAT'S WHY WE STARTED THE HOME

  • PROGRAM AND THAT'S WHY IT IS SO

  • IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE, BECAUSE

  • FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS SHOULD

  • HAVE A CHANCE TO GET INTO THIS

  • MARKET.

  • THE FOREIGN TAX HAS HAD THE

  • IMPACT THAT WE WANTED IT TO

  • HAVE.

  • RELIEF ON THE PROPERTY PURCHASE

  • TAX IS HAVING AN IMPACT AT

  • HELPING PEOPLE GET INTO THEIR

  • FIRST HOMES AS WELL.

  • WE BELIEVE THAT THE DREAM OF

  • HOMEOWNERSHIP SHOULD STAY WITHIN

  • THE REACH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS

  • AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MADE THE

  • CHANGES THAT WE HAVE.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms.

  • CLARK.

  • >>> AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST,

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • WE KNOW THAT THE 15% FOREIGN

  • BUYERS' TAX INITIALLY DID COOL

  • THE REAL ESTATE MARKET TO SOME

  • EXTENT.

  • YOU ARE NOW PROPOSING DOUBLING

  • THAT TAX TO 30% AND EXPANDING IT

  • ACROSS THE PROVINCE AS WELL AS

  • INCREASING THE PURCHASER'S

  • PROPERTY TAX.

  • ARE YOU CONCERNED AT ALL ABOUT

  • THE IMPACT THIS MAY HAVE ON THE

  • EQUITY THAT BRITISH COLUMBIANS

  • HAVE IN THEIR HOMES?

  • >> NO.

  • IN FACT, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT

  • HAS HAPPENED IS THERE HAS BEEN A

  • SPECULATIVE HOUSING MARKET.

  • HOUSES SHOULD BE THERE FOR

  • PEOPLE TO LIVE IN, NOT TO BE

  • VIEWED AS COMMODITIES TO TRADE

  • LIKE GOLD OR POTASH.

  • WHAT WE HAVE RECOGNIZED AS WELL

  • IS THIS GOVERNMENT HAS LEFT THIS

  • AS AN ISSUE TO GET OUT OF

  • CONTROL.

  • WHEN THE FOREIGN OWNER TAX WAS

  • BROUGHT IN, IT WAS 15% ONLY FOR

  • METRO VANCOUVER.

  • THIS HAS NOT SOLVED THE PROBLEM.

  • IN FACT, GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZES

  • THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING

  • INCREASING REVENUE FROM THE

  • FOREIGN TAX.

  • IF THE TAX WAS TO WORK, YOU

  • WOULD EXPECT THE DECREASING

  • REVENUE.

  • BUT THEY ARE BUDGETING

  • INCREASING REVENUE.

  • WE BELIEVE THE TAX IS TO ENSURE

  • THAT PEOPLE IN BRITISH COLUMBIAN

  • CAN ACTUALLY LIVE HERE AND WE'RE

  • EXTENDING IT TO 30% ACROSS THE

  • PROVINCE.

  • NOT JUST IF YOU OWN A PASSPORT

  • THAT'S FOREIGN AS THE PREMIER

  • DID.

  • WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT IF YOU

  • LIVE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA AND

  • PAY -- AND YOU PAY TAXES IN

  • CANADA, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE

  • AND OWN YOUR OWN PROPERTY.

  • SO THAT IS OUR APPROACH.

  • IT ACTUALLY PUTS PRESSURE ON THE

  • UPSIDE OF THE MARKET.

  • OUR PROPERTY TRANSFER TAX

  • CHANGES WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT

  • CHEAPER FOR PEOPLE TO SELL AND

  • BUY HOMES UNDER A MILLION

  • DOLLARS.

  • IT ONLY KICKS IN IN LARGER

  • AMOUNTS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE

  • MEGA-MANSIONS.

  • YOU KNOW, I RAISED THIS IN THE

  • LEGISLATURE FIRST AND WHILE THE

  • BC NDP WOULD HAVE SAID THAT THEY

  • HAVE BEEN RAISING IT FOR THREE

  • YEARS, THE REALITY IS FOR THAT

  • TIME, THEY HAVEN'T OFFERED ANY

  • SOLUTIONS.

  • THE BC GREENS ARE A

  • SOLUTIONS-BASED PARTY AND WE

  • PROPOSE A DIVERSE ARRAY OF

  • POLICIES THAT WILL MAKE LIFE

  • AFFORDABLE IN BC.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU FOR YOUR

  • RESPONSE.

  • NOW THAT YOU HAVE HEARD THE

  • PARTIES' POSITIONS, WE WILL GET

  • INTO THE DEBATE PORTION ON

  • HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.

  • LEADERS ARE GOING TO HAVE THE

  • OPPORTUNITY TO ASK EACH OTHER

  • QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT THIS FIRST

  • THEME AND THE RESPONDENTS WILL

  • HAVE 45 SECONDS UNINTERRUPTED

  • AND THEN THE TWO LEADERS WILL

  • DEBATE THAT QUESTION FOR 90

  • SECONDS.

  • THE LEADER NOT INVOLVED IN THE

  • DEBATE WILL NOT PARTICIPATE.

  • AGAIN, WE'LL REMIND YOU

  • POSITIONS HAVE BEEN DRAWN, AND

  • Mr. HORGAN WON THIS PARTICULAR

  • SEGMENT.

  • HE WILL LEAD OFF WITH A QUESTION

  • TO Ms. CLARK ON HOUSING

  • AFFORDABILITY.

  • Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • Ms. CLARK, YOU SAID YOU WAITED

  • TO GET THE RIGHT ANSWER.

  • WHILE YOU WAITED, THE AVERAGE

  • HOUSING PRICE IN VANCOUVER WENT

  • UP $600,000, ELIMINATING ANY

  • PROSPECT OF YOUNG PEOPLE BUYING

  • A HOME IN THIS PROVINCE.

  • WHY DID YOU WAIT SO LONG?

  • WAS IT BECAUSE YOUR RICH

  • DEVELOPERS WERE MAKING A BUNDLE

  • OR WAS IT YOU JUST DIDN'T CARE

  • ABOUT FAMILIES NOT BEING ABLE TO

  • BUY HOMES IN METRO VANCOUVER?

  • >> WE CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO

  • ALREADY OWN THEIR HOMES TOO.

  • WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUNG

  • PEOPLE GET INTO THOSE FIRST

  • HOMES BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE

  • IF YOU OWN YOUR OWN HOME,

  • GOVERNMENT WASN'T GOING TO TAKE

  • SOME INITIATIVE SO DRAMATIC AND

  • SO HARMFUL THAT IT MEANT YOU

  • LOST THE EQUITY IN THE HOME THAT

  • YOU HAVE BUILT.

  • A 15% FOREIGN TAX ON BUYERS HAS

  • NEVER BEEN DONE IN NORTH

  • AMERICA.

  • WE COLLECTED THE DATA AND WE

  • MADE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS

  • GOING TO HAPPEN, AND GUESS WHAT?

  • IT WORKED.

  • IT COOLED THE MARKET.

  • BUT IT'S NOT ALL WE NEED TO DO.

  • WE NEED TO SUPPORT FIRST-TIME

  • HOME BUYERS THROUGH THE HOME

  • PROGRAM WHICH IS UP TO $37,000

  • LOAN.

  • THE NDP WANT TO SCRAP THAT.

  • THEY WANT TO PAY RENTERS A

  • DOLLAR A DAY TO STAY IN A RENTAL

  • ACCOMMODATION.

  • I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO OWN THE

  • HOME THAT THEY LIVE IN.

  • >> Jennifer: YOU --

  • >> I MET TODAY WITH YOUNG

  • PROFESSIONALS, FAMILIES THAT

  • CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY IN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA.

  • THEY ARE LEAVING BC FOR OTHER

  • JURISDICTIONS BECAUSE HOUSING

  • PRICES ARE JUST TOO HIGH.

  • WHEN I TALK TO CEOs OF TECH

  • COMPANIES THEY SAY THE BIGGEST

  • CHALLENGE THEY HAVE IN RETAINING

  • PEOPLE IS THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO

  • LIVE HERE.

  • THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A

  • BASEMENT APARTMENT, BUT THAT'S

  • ALL THEY CAN FIND.

  • YOUR NEGLIGENCE OVER THE PAST

  • TWO YEARS HAS LED TO A MARKET

  • THAT IS UNATTAINABLE FOR THE

  • FAMILIES YOU PROFESS TO

  • REPRESENT.

  • AND TO MAKE RENTERS SECOND-CLASS

  • CITIZENS I THINK IS PRETTY --

  • WELL, I WOULD CALL IT

  • PATRONIZING --

  • >> HOW IS ONE DOLLAR A DAY GOING

  • TO HELP A TECH WORKER BE ABLE TO

  • RENT A HOME IN VANCOUVER?

  • AND HOW IS SCRAPPING THE

  • FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS PROGRAM,

  • 42,000 PEOPLE, NO INTEREST, NO

  • PAYMENT LOAN FOR FIVE YEARS, FOR

  • 37 AND A HALF DOLLARS AT THE TOP

  • END SO THAT PEOPLE CAN OWN THEIR

  • OWN HOME?

  • HOW IS SCRAPPING THAT PROGRAM

  • GOING TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE

  • IN BRITISH COLUMBIA?

  • >> WHY SHOULD ANYONE BELIEVE YOU

  • NOW?

  • JUST BEFORE AN ELECTION, YOU ARE

  • ALWAYS QUICK WITH A SMILE AND A

  • PROMISE BUT YOU DON'T DELIVER.

  • SAME THING WITH HOUSING.

  • THE MARKET HAS SLOWED BUT THE

  • AVERAGE PRICE HAS NOT COME DOWN.

  • I STOOD TODAY WITH FAMILIES IN

  • FRONT OF A HOME 900 SQUARE-FOOT

  • HOME, $1.2 MILLION ASSESSMENT.

  • THAT HAD GONE UP $300,000 OVER

  • THE PAST 18 MONTHS --

  • >> HOME LESS AFFORDABLE IS NOT

  • HAVING -- IS HAVING JOB LOSSES

  • IN BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • AND HAVING THE HIGHEST

  • UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE COUNTRY

  • AS WE DID UNDER THE LAST NDP

  • GOVERNMENT.

  • >> Jennifer: I'LL STOP YOU BOTH

  • THERE FOR THAT PORTION OF THE

  • DEBATE.

  • THANK YOU.

  • WE WILL MOVE ON TO ALLOW Ms.

  • CLARK, WHO HAS A QUESTION FOR

  • Mr. WEAVER, AND HIS ANSWER WILL

  • BE UNINTERRUPTED AND THEN THERE

  • WILL BE TIME FOR A DEBATE

  • BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.

  • GO AHEAD.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • Dr. WEAVER, YOU ARE ADDING THREE

  • NEW PUNITIVE TAXES FOR PEOPLE

  • WHO WANT TO PURCHASE A HOME AT A

  • TIME WHEN GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE

  • DOING EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE

  • THING, AND THAT IS LOWERING

  • TAXES FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY

  • A HOME.

  • HOW DOES THAT MAKE LIFE MORE

  • AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE?

  • >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE

  • QUESTION.

  • IN ACTUAL FACT FOR MOST PEOPLE,

  • THE PROPERTY TRANSFER TAX THAT

  • WE ARE CHANGING WOULD ACTUALLY

  • DECREASE THE COST OF BUYING AND

  • SELLING A HOME.

  • WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT IN OUR

  • SOCIETY, TAXES SHOULD BE

  • PROGRESSIVE RATHER THAN

  • REGRESSIVE.

  • WE BELIEVE THOSE WHO HAVE THE

  • ABILITY TO PAY SHOULD PAY A

  • LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THOSE WHO

  • DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY.

  • ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL CHANGE,

  • FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE HOMEOWNER

  • GRANT.

  • YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LIVING IN A

  • MANSION DOES NOT NEED THE

  • HOMEOWNER GRANT TO THE SAME

  • EXTENT AS SOMEBODY WHO IS

  • EARNING -- SORRY, SOMEBODY

  • LIVING IN A MANSION EARNING A

  • LOT OF MONEY DOESN'T NEED IT TO

  • THE EXTENT SOMEONE STRUGGLING TO

  • GET INTO THEIR FIRST HOME.

  • THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE.

  • OUR APPROACH IS TO INCENTIVIZE

  • THROUGH A PROGRESSIVE TAXATION,

  • THE BUYING OF SELLING HOMES AT

  • THE LOWER END AND CLAMPS AT THE

  • UPPER END, PARTICULARLY SO

  • BRITISH COLUMBIANS CAN LIVE IN

  • THEIR OWN PROVINCE.

  • >> WHAT YOU ARE INTRODUCING, I

  • MEAN, FOR VIEWERS WHO MAY BE

  • TUNING IN FOR THE FIRST TIME TO

  • THE ELECTION, ARE THREE NEW

  • TAXES.

  • A LIFETIME CAPITAL GAINS TAX, AN

  • ADDITIONAL SURTAX ON TOP OF

  • EXISTING PROPERTY TAXES THAT

  • WOULD GO TO THE PROVINCIAL

  • GOVERNMENT, NOT TO YOUR LOCAL

  • GOVERNMENT, AND A PROPERTY

  • TRANSFER TAX.

  • AND I ALWAYS THINK THAT THERE

  • IS -- YOU KNOW, POLITICIANS CAN

  • ALWAYS COME UP WITH NEW WAYS TO

  • GET YOUR TAXES AND SPEND MORE --

  • >> THAT'S IN ACTUAL FACT, Ms.

  • CLARK, WHAT WE ARE ADDRESSING IS

  • THE ISSUE YOU HAVE FAILED TO

  • ADDRESS FOR THE LAST NUMBER OF

  • YEARS.

  • WE'RE ADDRESSING SPECULATION.

  • WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING IS PEOPLE

  • WHO FLIP HOMES.

  • THEY LIVE IN A HOME FOR SIX

  • MONTHS, THEY MOVE TO A NEW HOME.

  • AND THEY ARE USING MOVING TO

  • HOMES AS A MEANS OF TRADING A

  • COMMODITY.

  • OUR LIFETIME CAPITAL GAINS TAX

  • DOES NOT APPLY TO SOMEBODY

  • LIVING IN PLACE.

  • IT DOES NOT APPLY TO SOMEONE

  • LIVING IN A HOUSE FOR THREE OR

  • FOUR YEARS.

  • IT ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO

  • ARE FLIPPING HOMES.

  • THE OTHER -- THE FOREIGN BUYERS

  • TAX IS TO ENSURE THAT BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS COULD ACTUALLY LIVE

  • IN OUR PROVINCE.

  • >> BUT DOCTOR WEAVER, I MEAN,

  • I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME

  • QUESTION OF Mr. HORGAN, WHICH IS

  • BOTH OF YOU ARE DETERMINED, IN

  • YOUR PLANS, TO KILL JOBS IN

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • HOW DOES THAT MAKE IT MORE --

  • >> WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IN

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA IS TO ENSURE

  • THAT LIFE IS AFFORDABLE FOR

  • BRITISH COLUMBIANS, THAT BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS CAN ACTUALLY LIVE IN

  • THEIR HOMES.

  • WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S TIME TO PUT

  • PEOPLE FIRST, NOT YOUR CORPORATE

  • DONORS.

  • NOT YOUR UNION DONORS.

  • BUT PEOPLE FIRST IN THE PROVINCE

  • OF BRITISH COLUMBIA AND THAT IS

  • THE FOUNDATION OF THE BC GREEN

  • POLICIES.

  • >> Jennifer: AND THAT IS TIME.

  • Mr. WEAVER, MAY I CLARIFY FOR MY

  • OWN PURPOSES.

  • IS IT Dr. WEAVER --

  • >> I DON'T MIND, DOCTOR OR

  • Mr. OR ANDREW.

  • >> OR DOCTOR Mr.

  • >> I STICK WITH THE FORMTIES.

  • WHICH DO YOU PREFER?

  • >> I HONESTLY DON'T MIND.

  • >> Jennifer: Mr. WEAVER IS IN

  • THE SCRIPT.

  • SO I'LL STICK WITH THAT.

  • IT IS YOUR TURN TO ASK THE

  • QUESTION AND YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO

  • ADDRESS Ms. CLARK.

  • THE CLOCK HAS BEEN RESET.

  • PLEASE GO AHEAD.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • THE HOUSING CRISIS IN BC HAS

  • BEEN GETTING WORSE FOR YEARS.

  • YET YOU HAVE BARELY DONE

  • ANYTHING TO ADDRESS IT.

  • WHY ARE YOUR LIMITED MEASURES

  • ONLY FOCUSSED ON VANCOUVER WHEN

  • PEOPLE ACROSS THIS PROVINCE ARE

  • STRUGGLING WITH THE COSTS OF

  • HOUSING?

  • >> WELL, IT'S FOCUSSED ALL OVER

  • METRO VANCOUVER.

  • SO, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY FROM

  • THE LANGLEY BORDER TO -- TO THE

  • COAST.

  • AND IT'S A 15% TAX ON FOREIGN

  • BUYERS.

  • FIRST PLACE IT'S BEEN DONE

  • ANYWHERE IN NORTH AMERICA, AND

  • IT HAS WORKED EXACTLY AS WE

  • EXPECTED.

  • TORONTO IS NOW COPYING WHAT

  • WE'RE DOING HERE AND SLOWED DOWN

  • THE RATE OF GROWTH IN THE PRICE

  • OF HOUSING.

  • WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO MORE OF

  • THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP

  • HOMES AND HOMEOWNERSHIP WITHIN

  • THE REACH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS.

  • I DON'T THINK ADDING THREE NEW

  • TAXES INCLUDING A SURTAX ON TOP

  • OF PROPERTY TAXES IS A WAY TO

  • MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE.

  • THE PLAN TO SCRAP THE HOME

  • PROGRAM IS GOING TO HELP EITHER.

  • ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE

  • MADE IS KEEPING IT AFFORDABLE

  • FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS.

  • >> AGAIN, Ms. CLARK, YOU HAVE

  • ACTUALLY MISSED THE POINT OF

  • ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THE

  • HOUSING CRISIS.

  • YOU HAVE NOT ADDRESSED

  • SPECULATION.

  • IN THE LEGISLATURE, I RAISED THE

  • FOREIGN TAX YEARS AGO, WHEN

  • TALKING ABOUT OTHER

  • JURISDICTIONS.

  • FINALLY, YEARS LATER, YOU

  • INTRODUCE IT.

  • IN THE LEGISLATURE, I TALKED

  • ABOUT SPECULATIVE LOOPHOLES,

  • SO-CALLED BEAR TRUST LOOPHOLE.

  • WHEN I RAISED IT IN THE

  • LEGISLATURE, YOUR MINISTER OF

  • FINANCE SAID TO ME, WE WON'T DO

  • IT BECAUSE OF THE UNFORESEEN

  • CONSEQUENCES.

  • SURE THERE WERE.

  • A HOUSING MARKET THAT HAS GOT

  • OUT OF CONTROL.

  • Ms. CLARK, THE US HOKING CRISIS

  • EXISTS IN VICTORIA -- HOUSING --

  • IN KELOWNA, IN KAMLOOPS.

  • IT'S NOT JUST HERE IN METRO

  • VANCOUVER.

  • WHY HAVE YOU LEFT THE REST OF

  • THE PUBLIC UNDER THE BUS --

  • THROWN THEM UNDER THE BUS.

  • >> Dr. WEAVER, WE HAVE

  • INTRODUCED THE HOME PROGRAM,

  • WHICH IS A LOAN --

  • INTEREST-FREE, NO PAYMENT LOAN

  • FOR FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS, THE

  • LUXURY TAX ON HOMES OVER $2

  • MILLION.

  • BUT, YOU KNOW, Dr. WEAVER, YOUR

  • PLAN TO ADD A SURTAX ON TOP OF

  • PROPERTY TAXES IS NOT GOING TO

  • MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR

  • PEOPLE.

  • NEITHER IS Mr. HORGAN'S PLAN FOR

  • A DOLLAR A DAY TO MAKE SURE

  • PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE TO RENT AND

  • NEVER OWN THE ROOF OVER THEIR

  • OWN HEADS --

  • >> CLEARLY -- WELL, CLEARLY YOUR

  • PLAN HAS NOT WORKED BECAUSE

  • WE'RE IN THE CRISIS WE'RE IN

  • PRECISELY BECAUSE YOUR PLAN HAS

  • NOT WORKED.

  • HAD THE BC LIBERALS HAD A PLAN,

  • LISTENED TO THE BC GREENS IN THE

  • LEGISLATURE, WE WOULDN'T BE IN

  • THIS SITUATION TODAY.

  • BUT WE DIDN'T.

  • THIS PROBLEM HAS GOT AWAY FROM

  • ITSELF.

  • YOU HAVE TAKEN TOO LONG TO

  • ACTUALLY DEAL WITH IT AND NOW

  • YOU ARE DOING STOP-GAP METHODS

  • SLOWLY IN METRO VANCOUVER.

  • >> Jennifer: THUCHLT WE'LL WRAP

  • UP THIS PORTION OF THE DEBATE.

  • TIME FOR THE NEXT THEME HCHLT

  • WHETHER IT IS JOBS, INVESTMENTS,

  • AND GROWTH, OR DEBTS, THE

  • ECONOMY IS TOP OF MIND.

  • WE SAW THIS JUST YESTERDAY AS

  • THE SOFTWOOD LUMBER DISPUTE WITH

  • THE U.S. REARED ITS HEAD AGAIN

  • AND THAT'S A TOPIC WE MAY HEAR

  • MORE ABOUT FROM THE LEADERS

  • TONIGHT.

  • >>> FOR NOW, THE FIRST QUESTION

  • ON THE ECONOMY BY DRAW GOES TO

  • LIBERAL LEADER CHRISTY CLARK.

  • Ms. CLARK, IN THE LAST ELECTION,

  • YOU RAN ON A FAMILIES FIRST

  • AGENDA.

  • IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, HOWEVER,

  • BC HYDRO RATES HAVE GONE UP,

  • MEDICAL SERVICES PREMIUMS HAVE

  • SOARED AND ICBC RATES HAVE ALSO

  • CLIMBED.

  • CAN YOU TELL BRITISH COLUMBIANS

  • HOW THIS IS PUTTING FAMILIES

  • FIRST AND HELPING THEM?

  • >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE

  • QUESTION, JENNIFER.

  • MSP RATES FOR MOST PEOPLE ARE

  • NOW DOWN BACK AT 1993 LEVELS AND

  • WE'RE MAKING SURE LIFE IS MORE

  • AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE THROUGH

  • THE BILLION-DOLLAR TAX CUT, ON

  • THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

  • ELIMINATE IT ALTOGETHER AS THE

  • ECONOMY GROWS.

  • MAKING LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR

  • PEOPLE WHO USE THE PORT MANN

  • BRIDGE REGULARLY BY ABOUT

  • $1,100, GIVING RELIEF ON TOLLS

  • AND ALSO A SIMILAR PROGRAM FOR

  • $250 WORTH OF RELIEF FOR PEOPLE

  • WHO ARE USING THE FERRIES.

  • BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY IN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA, TAKE-HOME PAY HAS

  • INCREASED BY $8,500.

  • MOST -- MOSTLY BECAUSE WE HAVE

  • THE LOWEST MIDDLE-CLASS TAXES

  • ANYWHERE IN CANADA, AND YOU CAN

  • TRUST THAT WITH THE LAST TIME

  • THE NDP WAS IN POWER AT $8,500 A

  • YEAR GROWTH, TO A $400 LOSS IN

  • TAKE-HOME PAY IN THE DECADE THAT

  • JOHN HORGAN AND THE NDP WERE IN

  • POWER.

  • THE WAY TO KEEP LIFE MORE

  • AFFORDABLE -- AND YOU ARE GOING

  • TO HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT

  • TAXES TONIGHT -- IS NOT TO

  • DOUBLE THE CARBON TAX, WHICH

  • BOTH JOHN HORGAN AND Dr. WEAVER

  • ARE PROPOSING.

  • IT'S NOT TO ADD SURTAXES AND

  • MORE TAXES FOR HOMEOWNERS.

  • IT'S NOT TO ROLL MSP INTO TAXES

  • AND CALL IT BY ANOTHER NAME.

  • IT'S TO ELIMINATE TAXES, TO MAKE

  • GOVERNMENT SMALLER AND PUT MORE

  • MONEY IN YOUR WALLET, BECAUSE I

  • THINK YOU CAN SPEND IT BETTER

  • THAN GOVERNMENT CAN.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms.

  • CLARK.

  • AND OUR NEXT QUESTION ON THE

  • ECONOMY GOES TO THE LEADER OF

  • THE GREENS.

  • Mr. WEAVER, YOU HAVE MADE A

  • NUMBER OF EXPENSIVE PROMISES

  • INCLUDING FREE DAYCARE FOR

  • CHILDREN UNDER 3 AND EXPANSION

  • OF EDUCATION AS WELL.

  • ON MONDAY YOU RELEASED THE COST

  • OF YOUR PLATFORM.

  • THERE'S $146 MILLION DEFICIT IN

  • THE FIRST YEAR ALONE.

  • OUR QUESTION TO YOU IS HOW DO

  • YOU PLAN TO PAY FOR THOSE

  • PROMISES AND CAN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA AFFORD A GREEN PARTY

  • GOVERNMENT?

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

  • IN OUR FULLY COSTED PLAN WE HAVE

  • ARTICULATED THE VISION OVER THE

  • NEXT FOUR YEARS, A VISION TO

  • STIMULATE THE NEW ECONOMY, A

  • VISION TO MOVE US TO THE 21ST

  • CENTURY.

  • OUR PLAN IS BUDGETED TO BE

  • BALANCED OVER THE COURSE OF THE

  • FOUR-YEAR TERM THAT WE'RE

  • SEEKING.

  • THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT

  • MARCH THE 31ST IN ANY GIVEN

  • YEAR, WHEN GOVERNMENT SPENDING

  • RUNS AMOK AS MINISTRIES TRY TO

  • GET THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR SO

  • THEY CAN START AFRESH ON APRIL

  • 1ST.

  • WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S

  • IRRESPONSIBLE GOVERNANCE AND

  • WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS

  • THINKING ABOUT BUDGETING ON THE

  • TERM OF YOUR OFFICE.

  • OUR PLAN IS TO ACTUALLY ASK

  • PEOPLE WHO CAN PAY A LITTLE BIT

  • MORE TO DO SO PROVIDED WE'RE

  • TELLING THEM WHERE THE MONEY

  • WOULD GO.

  • OUR PLAN IS ALSO TO ASK

  • CORPORATIONS TO PAY A LITTLE BIT

  • MORE, AND WE'RE TELLING THEM

  • WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO.

  • YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAKING PUBLIC

  • EDUCATION OUR SINGLE MOST

  • IMPORTANT PRIORITY.

  • I STOOD ON THE LEGISLATURE TWO

  • AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND SAID,

  • WE WOULD MAKE PUBLIC EDUCATION

  • OUR TOP PRIORITY, AND WE HAVE

  • DELIVERED.

  • OVER $4 BILLION INVESTED IN

  • PUBLIC EDUCATION.

  • BUT IT'S A QUESTION OF

  • PRIORITIES.

  • THE PREMIER'S PRIORITIES

  • SUPPORTED BY THE LEADER OF THE

  • OPPOSITION ARE LNG.

  • THAT'S WHY THEIR PLAN IS SO

  • SUBSIDIZE WOOD-FIBRE LNG, FOR

  • EXAMPLE, AND THE 100 UNION JOBS

  • THERE, TO THE TUNE OF $440,000 A

  • YEAR PER JOB.

  • THAT IS RECKLESS ECONOMICS.

  • OUR PRIORITIES ARE PEOPLE AND

  • CHILDREN.

  • WE BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENSHIP

  • IN BRITISH COLUMBIA SHARE OUR

  • PRIORITIES, THAT WE NEED TO PUT

  • PEOPLE FIRST RATHER THAN THE

  • VESTED INTERESTS OF OUR

  • CORPORATE DONORS ON THE LEFT AND

  • THE BIG UNION DONORS ON MY

  • RIGHT.

  • THANK YOU.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • >>> OUR LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE

  • ECONOMY FROM THE CONSORTIUM GOES

  • TO THE NDP LEADER.

  • AND Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE

  • COMMITTED TO RAISING TAXES FOR

  • THOSE MAKING MORE THAN $150,000

  • AS WELL AS INCREASING CORPORATE

  • TAXES.

  • IN OTHER WORDS, ARE YOU

  • PROMISING TO NOT RAISE ANY OTHER

  • TAXES FOR FOUR YEARS IF YOU ARE

  • ELECTED?

  • >> WE TABLED A FULLY-COSTED

  • THREE-YEAR FISCAL PLAN BASED ON

  • THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PROVIDED

  • BY THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE IN

  • THE LEGISLATURE IN FEBRUARY.

  • WE PLAN TO ROLL BACK THE

  • MILLIONAIRE TAX BREAK THAT

  • CHRISTY CLARK AND THE BC

  • LIBERALS GAVE THE WEALTHIEST

  • PEOPLE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, A

  • BILLION DOLLARS OVER THE TERM IN

  • GOVERNMENT, AND GIVE SOME RELIEF

  • TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING

  • ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE A

  • YEAR AS A RESULT OF THE CHOICES

  • THAT THE BC LIBERALS MADE.

  • ICBC RATES, HYDRO RATES, FERRY

  • FARES, TUITION FEES.

  • WHEREVER YOU LOOK, WHEREVER

  • GOVERNMENT COULD PUT THEIR HAND

  • IN YOUR POCKET, THE BC LIBERALS

  • HAVE DONE THAT.

  • WE BELIEVE THAT A MODEST

  • INCREASE IN OUR CORPORATE INCOME

  • TAX BY 1%, WHICH WOULD MATCH

  • ALBERTA, SASKATCHEWAN, AND

  • MANITOBA IS REASONABLE.

  • AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR PLAN WILL

  • WORK TO PUT MONEY BACK IN

  • PEOPLE'S POCKETS AND KEEP THE

  • ECONOMY GOING.

  • THE BC LIBERALS ON THE OTHER

  • HAND WANT TO KEEP GIVING TO THE

  • PEOPLE THAT GIVE TO THEM.

  • THEIR BIG DONORS GET BREAKS

  • WHILE THE REST OF US PAY THE

  • PRICE.

  • I THINK THAT'S WRONG AND I THINK

  • BRITISH COLUMBIANS THINK THAT'S

  • WRONG AS WELL.

  • FOR ME, THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT

  • GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

  • LIVE IN THEIR OWN PROVINCE, WHO

  • WANT TO MAKE LIFE MORE

  • AFFORDABLE.

  • WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE

  • SERVICES THAT PEOPLE COUNT ON

  • ARE THERE FOR THEM WHEN THEY

  • NEED IT IN AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS

  • FOR EVERYBODY.

  • THAT'S NOT THE BC LIBERAL WAY.

  • THEY TAKE ALL OF THEIR ENERGY

  • AND PUT IT INTO THEIR BIG DONORS

  • AND LEAVE THE REST OF US BLOWING

  • IN THE WIND.

  • I THINK THE TIME FOR THAT IS

  • OVER.

  • I THINK IN THE DAYS AHEAD, AS

  • THIS ELECTION RUNS DOWN, THE

  • LIBERALS WILL HAVE HAD THEIR DAY

  • AND IT'LL BE TIME FOR THE BC NDP

  • TO TAKE POWER AND BUILD A BETTER

  • BC.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • THAT BRINGS US TO LEADER DEBATE

  • ON THE ECONOMY NOW, AND YOU HAVE

  • HEARD EACH LEADER RAISE PLANKS

  • IN EACH OF THEIR ECONOMIC

  • PLATFORMS.

  • NOW MIGHT BE A CHANCE FOR THEM

  • TO HAMMER SOME OF THEM DOWN.

  • THE FIRST LEADER UP IS CHRISTY

  • CLARK.

  • OPTED TO USE HER FIRST QUESTION

  • TO ASK JOHN HORGAN OF THE NDP.

  • GO AHEAD, Ms. CLARK.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • Mr. HORGAN HAS FINALLY DEVELOPED

  • AN INTEREST IN THE SOFTWOOD

  • LUMBER AGREEMENT NOW WE ARE ON

  • THE EVE OP AN ELECTION.

  • SINCE BECOMING THE NDP LEADER

  • THREE YEARS AGO, HE DIDN'T RAISE

  • SOFTWOOD LUMBER EVEN ONCE IN

  • THREE YEARS IN QUESTION PERIOD.

  • WHY IS THAT, Mr. HORGAN?

  • >> WELL, Ms. CLARK, IF YOU CAME

  • TO QUESTION PERIOD MORE OFTEN,

  • MAYBE I WOULD HAVE HAD THE

  • OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

  • BUT IT'S A BIT RICH FOR SOMEONE

  • WHO HAS BEEN ABSENT FROM THE

  • SOFTWOOD LUMBER DEBATE FOR TWO

  • AND A HALF YEARS TO NOW, 13 DAYS

  • BEFORE AN ELECTION, TO SOMEHOW

  • SAY SHE CARES ABOUT FOREST

  • WORKERS.

  • THERE ARE 30,000 FEWER FOREST

  • WORKERS WORKING IN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA TODAY THAN THERE WERE

  • WHEN THE BC LIBERALS CAME TO

  • POWER.

  • 150 MILLS HAVE CLOSED ON THE BC

  • LIBERAL WATCH, AND NOW CHRISTY

  • CLARK EXPECTS YOU TO BELIEVE HER

  • THAT SHE CARES ABOUT THE JOBS

  • THAT ARE AT RISK WHILE SHE WAS

  • CHASING LNG AND NOT FOCUSSING ON

  • OUR FOUNDATIONAL FOREST

  • INDUSTRY, THE CONSEQUENCES COULD

  • BE DIRE FOR FOREST COMMUNITIES

  • AND CERTAINLY DIRE FOR FOREST

  • WORKERS.

  • MY COMMITMENT IS TO WORK EVERY

  • SINGLE DAY SO WE CAN GET A DEAL

  • DONE IN THE INTERESTS OF OUR

  • FOREST SECTOR AND THE PEOPLE WHO

  • WORK IN IT.

  • >> Mr. HORGAN, I MEAN, I THINK

  • WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHY YOU

  • HAVEN'T DEMONSTRATED MUCH

  • INTEREST IN SOFTWOOD LUMBER SO

  • FAR.

  • THREE OF YOUR CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS

  • ARE BEING PAID FROM PITTSBURGH

  • FROM THE STEELWORKERS UNION.

  • YOU HAVE TAKEN THE BIGGEST

  • POLITICAL DONATION IN BC HISTORY

  • FROM THE GUYS DOWN IN

  • PITTSBURGH.

  • THE SAME PEOPLE THAT STOOD

  • BESIDE DONALD TRUMP WHEN HE

  • CALLED OUR BC FOREST WORKERS A

  • DISGRACE.

  • I THINK WE ARE FINALLY BEGINNING

  • TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU NEVER EVEN

  • RAISED IT IN THE LEGISLATURE,

  • NEVER ASKED ABOUT IT --

  • >> WE HAVE RAISED FORESTRY

  • ISSUES FOR THE PAST FOUR

  • YEARS --

  • >> YOU HAVEN'T, Mr. HORGAN --

  • >> YOU HAVE BEEN SENDING RAW

  • LOGS OUT OF BRITISH COLUMBIA --

  • >> YOU HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THE

  • SOFTWOOD LUMBER --

  • >> THOSE ARE JOBS LEAVING

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • YOU DID NOT GO TO WASHINGTON TO

  • TALK TO TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

  • RACHEL NOTLEY DID.

  • YOU DID NOT GO TO WASHINGTON TO

  • DEFEND OUR INTERESTS.

  • BRAD WALL WENT TO DEFEND THE

  • INTERESTS OF SASKATCHEWAN.

  • YOU HAVE BEEN ABSENT ON THE

  • FILE, Ms. CLARK.

  • THE DEAL EXPIRED TWO YEARS AGO.

  • TWO YEARS AGO.

  • AND NOW, TWO WEEKS BEFORE AN

  • ELECTION, YOU WANT WORKERS IN --

  • >> I ASKED YOU A QUESTION.

  • >> -- THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THIS

  • QUESTION.

  • YOU DON'T.

  • YOU DON'T.

  • >> I DID ASK YOU A QUESTION,

  • WHICH IS WHY YOU RAISED IT IN

  • THE LEGISLATURE --

  • >> YOU ARE NEVER THERE.

  • >> YOU CAN ONLY ASK A QUESTION

  • IF I'M THERE -- YOU CAN ASK A

  • QUESTION ANY DAY YOU ARE

  • THERE --

  • >> I INVITE YOU TO LOOK UP

  • HANSARD.

  • I KNOW YOU WOULD RATHER WATCH

  • THE HOCKEY GAME.

  • GO AND LOOK.

  • THE NUMBER OF TIME WE HAVE

  • RAISED FORESTRY IN THE --

  • >> HOW OFTEN HAVE YOU RAISED

  • IT -- I HAVE GONE AND LOOKED --

  • >> I BET YOU HAVE.

  • >> YOU HAVEN'T RAISED IT IN

  • QUESTION PERIOD EVEN ONCE.

  • AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT --

  • [ Speaking Simultaneously ].

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU FOR THAT

  • PORTION OF THE DEBATE.

  • THANK YOU FOR THAT PORTION OF

  • THE DEBATE.

  • Mr. WEAVER IS UP NEXT.

  • HE HAS A QUESTION FOR Ms. CLARK

  • ON THE ECONOMY, AND YOU WILL

  • HAVE SOME TIME TO HAVE THAT

  • QUESTION AND THEN A RESPONSE AND

  • DEBATE BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • Ms. CLARK, PRIOR TO THE LAST

  • ELECTION, YOU PROMISED A HUNDRED

  • THOUSAND JOBS.

  • $100 BILLION PROSPERITY FUND.

  • A UNICORN IN EACH OF OUR YARDS

  • FROM LNG, YET YOU FAILED TO

  • DELIVER.

  • WHY SHOULD BRITISH COLUMBIANS

  • TRUST YOU TO DELIVER THIS TIME?

  • >> WELL, I THINK MOST BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS WILL KNOW THAT OIL

  • AND GAS HASN'T BEEN A GREAT

  • GROWTH IN THE MARKET RECENTLY.

  • ALBERTA HAS GOT ITS PROBLEMS

  • BECAUSE OF IT.

  • AND OUR LNG PLAN HAS GONE SLOWER

  • THAN WE WANTED BECAUSE OF MARKET

  • CONDITIONS.

  • I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.

  • BUT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WANT US

  • TO GIVE UP.

  • I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO

  • WAVE THE WHITE FLAG, AND Dr.

  • WEAVER, BOTH YOU AND Mr. HORGAN

  • HAVE OPPOSED PACIFIC NORTHWEST

  • AND THE MAJOR LNG PROJECTS EVERY

  • SINGLE STEP OF THE WAY.

  • I AM GOING TO KEEP AT IT BECAUSE

  • I AM DETERMINED TO BUILD THAT

  • PROSPERITY FUND FOR OUR KIDS,

  • AND I AM DETERMINED TO CREATE

  • THOSE JOBS FOR WORKING PEOPLE

  • ALL ACROSS THE PROVINCE.

  • THERE IS ONLY ONE PARTY THAT HAS

  • A PLAN TO CUT TAXES, CREATE JOBS

  • AND CONTROL GOVERNMENT SPENDING,

  • AND THAT, Dr. WEAVER, IS THE

  • PARTY THAT I REPRESENT, THE BC

  • LIBERALS.

  • >> Ms. CLARK, YOU HAVE NO

  • CREDIBILITY ON THIS FILE.

  • THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOU

  • EITHER INTENTIONALLY MISLEAD OR

  • JUST SIMPLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND

  • SIMPLE SUPPLY-DEMAND ECONOMICS

  • OR YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE NEW

  • ECONOMY.

  • AS I STOOD IN THE LEGISLATURE,

  • FOR YEARS, POINTING OUT THAT

  • THIS WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN I

  • RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A BIT RICH

  • FOR Mr. HORGAN TO CRITICIZE YOU

  • ON LNG BECAUSE THEY WERE RIGHT

  • BEHIND YOU, RIGHT BEHIND YOU

  • CHEERLEADING THE WAY.

  • AS I STOOD THERE POINTING OUT

  • THAT THE ECONOMICS DOESN'T WORK.

  • PEOPLE HAVE BUILT HOTELS IN

  • TERRACE IN ANTICIPATION, PEOPLE

  • HAVE RENOVATED HOMES IN KITIMAT

  • IN ANTICIPATION.

  • YOU HAVE MISLED THEM.

  • >> NO, NO, Dr. WEAVER.

  • WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU

  • AND THE NDP TO PUT AN END TO

  • LNG.

  • AS THE MARKET IMPROVES, THESE

  • PROJECTS WILL GO AHEAD FOR

  • BRITISH COLUMBIANS.

  • BUT BOTH OF YOU WANT TO WAVE THE

  • WHITE FLAG AND END THOSE JOBS

  • AND HOPES AND DREAMS OF ALL

  • THOSE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO

  • HAVE A REGULAR PAYCHEQUE TO LOOK

  • AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT THEY

  • LOVE --

  • >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT JOBS YOU

  • ARE TALKING ABOUT, Ms. CLARK,

  • BECAUSE THERE ARE NO JOBS.

  • IN FACT, SO DESPERATE IS YOUR

  • GOVERNMENT TO LAND A SINGLE LNG

  • PROJECT, SO DESPERATE, THAT YOU

  • ARE BUILDING THE SITE C DAM FOR

  • A MARKET THAT DOESN'T EXIST, AT

  • 15 CENTS --

  • >> DELIVER CLEAN ENERGY FOR OUR

  • KIDS, Dr. WEAVER.

  • >> THOSE PLANTS WHO MIGHT CHOOSE

  • TO COME HERE FOR --

  • >> WE WANT TO DELIVER CLEAN

  • ENERGY FOR OUR KIDS.

  • >> YOU ARE SUBSIDIZING.

  • >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE --

  • >> TO THE TUNE OF $440,000 PER

  • PERSON, PER YEAR ON THE BACK OF

  • TAXPAYERS.

  • >> WE WANT TO CREATE --

  • >> OUR PRIORITY IS PEOPLE.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU FOR THAT

  • DEBATE.

  • Mr. HORGAN, YOU ARE UP NEXT, AND

  • Mr. HORGAN HAS CHOSEN TO ASK

  • Mr. WEAVER A QUESTION ABOUT THE

  • ECONOMY IN THIS LEADER TO LEADER

  • DEBATE.

  • GO AHEAD.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • Mr. WEAVER, YOU AND YOUR

  • SUPPORTERS SUPPORTED TWO BUDGETS

  • TABLED IN THE BC LEGISLATURE

  • THAT CUT SERVICES FOR KIDS AND

  • EDUCATION, AND SENIORS AND CUT

  • SERVICES IN HEALTH CARE.

  • WHY WOULD YOUR SUPPORTERS WANT

  • TO SUPPORT A PARTY THAT THINKS

  • THAT IT'S OKAY TO BALANCE THE

  • BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF THE

  • VULNERABLE, THE WEAK AND THOSE

  • WHO NEED HELP?

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION,

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • UNLIKE YOUR PARTY, I ACTUALLY

  • THINK ABOUT WHAT I'M GOING TO

  • VOTE FOR AND I SAY REASONS WHY I

  • VOTE FOR IT.

  • IN ANY DECISION, IT'S ABOUT GIVE

  • AND TAKE AND IN MY CASE, I HAVE

  • DOCUMENTED WHY.

  • WHAT IS A BIT RICH, ACTUALLY,

  • FOR YOU TO HAVE THE AUDACITY TO

  • CRITICIZING MY VOTING RECORD

  • WHEN I SAT IN THE LEGISLATURE

  • FOR FOUR YEARS AND WATCHED YOUR

  • M.P. VOTE ON EVERY ISSUE

  • COLLECTIVELY.

  • STAND UP AND VOTING FOR

  • INCREASING THERMAL COAL

  • EXPANSIONS OUT OF VANCOUVER,

  • AGAINST WHAT THEY BELIEVE, TO

  • SEE NICK SIMONS NOT SHOWING THE

  • ROOM BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T BEAR

  • TO STAND UP AND VOTE.

  • TO SEE THEM VOTE FOR THE LNG

  • INCOME TAX ACT.

  • IT IS A BIT RICH FOR YOU TO HAVE

  • THE AUDACITY TO CRITICIZE MY

  • VOTING RECORD WHICH IS

  • TRANSPARENT AND BASED ON

  • EVIDENCE.

  • >> Mr. WEAVER, WHAT BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS HAVE BEEN TIRED OF

  • OVER THE PAST 16 YEARS IS A BC

  • LIBERAL GOVERNMENT THAT DOESN'T

  • PUT THEM FIRST.

  • AND WHEN YOUR SUPPORTERS SEE

  • THAT YOU HAVE SUPPORTED THAT

  • INITIATIVE, THOSE BUDGETS THAT

  • CUT CLASSROOMS, THAT CUT

  • RESOURCES TO EMERGENCY ROOMS,

  • AND CUT SERVICES FOR PEOPLE,

  • THEY HAVE TO ASK THEMSELVES, ARE

  • THE GREENS REALLY IN THIS TO WIN

  • THIS, OR THEY IN THIS --

  • >> Mr. HORGAN --

  • >> EVERYONE I TALK TO WANTS THE

  • BC LIBERALS GONE --

  • >> Mr. HORGAN, I PROMISE TO DO

  • POLITICS DIFFERENTLY.

  • I RECOGNIZE AS A CAREER

  • POLITICIAN, YOU KNOW NOTHING BUT

  • SAYING NO AND BEING ANTAGONISTIC

  • TO THE BC LIBERALS.

  • WE NEED BETTER GOVERNANCE IN

  • BC --

  • >> I'M AN TIG ANALYSISIC TO A

  • GOVERNMENT THAT DOESN'T PUT

  • PEOPLE AT THE CENTRE OF THEIR

  • POLICIES.

  • THE BC LIBERALS HAVE BEEN IN

  • THIS FOR THE WEALTHY DONORS AND

  • NOT THE PEOPLE OF BC.

  • >> CLEARLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE

  • BECAUSE YOUR DECISIONS ARE

  • PUTTING YOUR BIG LABOUR

  • INTERESTS --

  • >> NOT AT ALL.

  • NOT AT ALL.

  • WE HAVE FOCUSSED EVERY DAY ON

  • MAKING LIFE BETTER FOR BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS.

  • WE HAVE MADE THREE COMMITMENTS

  • IN THIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN TO

  • MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE --

  • >> UNCOSTED COMMITMENTS THAT ARE

  • IRRESPONSIBLE AND WILL --

  • >> FULLED COSTED --

  • >> TWO ECONOMISTS COMING OUT

  • CRITICIZING IT.

  • WE HAD TWO --

  • >> HIRED TWOISTS --

  • >> THE LIBERALS HIRED TWO

  • ECONOMISTS.

  • >> NOT SENSIBLE.

  • WHEREAS YOUR PLAN IS JUST SIMPLY

  • LA-LA LAND PLAN.

  • >> MY GOODNESS.

  • >> MONEY GROSS ON TREES.

  • ARE YOU GOING TO LOSE YOUR

  • TEMPER ON ME NOW, BECAUSE YOU

  • DID IT LAST WEEK.

  • >> COME ON.

  • >> THIS IS THE PROBLEM --

  • >> LISTEN TO ME, ANDREW, YOU

  • LOOK LIKE THE REST OF THE

  • POLITICIANS.

  • PEOPLE IN THE CENTRE OF OUR

  • POLITICS.

  • >> WITHOUT EVER OFFER A

  • SOLUTION.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU.

  • NOW THAT BRINGS US TO QUESTIONS

  • FROM THE CONSORTIUM REGARDING

  • LEADERSHIP.

  • HOW MUCH OF A FACTOR IS

  • PERSONALITY OVER POLICY WHEN IT

  • COMES TO BEING PREMIER, AND WE

  • WILL BEGIN WITH Mr. WEAVER.

  • Mr. WEAVER, EARLIER THIS WEEK,

  • YOU SAID THE GREENS' STAND FOR

  • ORDINARY PEOPLE IN COMPARISON TO

  • THE LIBERALS' TIES TO BIG

  • BUSINESS AND THE NDP TO BIG

  • UNIONS, WE WANT TO ASK YOU IF

  • THIS IS A CLOSE ELECTION, AS

  • MANY BELIEVE IT WILL BE, YOU MAY

  • BE IN THE POSITION OF DECIDING

  • WHO WILL GOVERN.

  • SO WHICH PARTY WHEN YOU SIDE

  • WITH TO FORM GOVERNMENT?

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

  • IT'S DIFFICULT TO ANSWER RIGHT

  • NOW BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OF

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA HAVE YET TO

  • DECIDE THE OUTCOME OF THIS

  • ELECTION.

  • WE RESPECT THE WILL OF THE

  • PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA, SO

  • WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE

  • ELECTION OCCURS.

  • WE HAVE AGREED AND WE HAVE

  • PROMISED AT ALL TIMES TO WORK

  • WITH WHOEVER FORMS GOVERNMENT,

  • AND WE WOULD HOPE THAT IF WE

  • FORM GOVERNMENT, THE -- MY

  • COLLEAGUES TO MY RIGHT AND LEFT

  • WOULD HAVE HOPED TO WORK WITH

  • US.

  • I PROMISE TO DO POLITICS

  • DIFFERENTLY IN THE LEGISLATURE.

  • I WORKED TO ENSURE THAT BILLS

  • GOT PASSED.

  • I RAISED ISSUES THERE THAT GOT

  • DEALT WITH, AND YOU CAN BE

  • EFFECTIVE IN DOING THAT IF YOU

  • ACTUALLY TREAT YOUR COLLEAGUES

  • WITH RESPECT.

  • BUT WHEN YOU ARE SITTING IN THE

  • LEGISLATURE WATCHING FOUR YEARS

  • OF Mr. HORGAN HURLING ABUSE AT

  • Ms. CLARK AND THEN THE MINISTERS

  • AND HER GOVERNMENT HURLING ABUSE

  • BACK, WHAT YOU FIND IS THAT IT'S

  • A DIFFICULT WORK TOGETHER.

  • SO BC GREENS ARE PUT TOGETHER AN

  • EXCEPTIONAL SUITE OF CANDIDATES,

  • EXCEPTIONAL SUITE OF CANDIDATES

  • WHO ARE STEPPING ASIDE FROM

  • THEIR CAREERS, NOT BECAUSE THEY

  • WANT TO BE CAREER POLITICIANS,

  • BUT BECAUSE OUT OF A SENSE OF

  • CIVIC DUTY, THEY BELIEVE WE NEED

  • TO RECLAIM OUR DEMOCRACY,

  • RECLAIM OUR DEMOCRACY FOR THE

  • PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA, AND

  • THAT'S WHY I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT

  • OUR TEAM.

  • AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL

  • WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE

  • ELECTION.

  • THERE'S A PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE

  • FOLLOWED.

  • YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS THAT IS

  • FOLLOWED IS THE PARTY THAT WINS

  • THE MOST SEATS MUST GO TO THE

  • LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND SEEK THE

  • DECISION TO FORM OR NOT FORM A

  • GOVERNMENT.

  • WE'LL LET THE PROCESS FORM OUT

  • AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD.

  • I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO Ms. CLARK

  • AND Mr. HORGAN PHONING THE

  • OFFICE UP AND SAYING, WE WOULD

  • LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU BECAUSE WE

  • RECOGNIZE YOU ARE THE ONE

  • CONTROLLING THE MAJORITY OR YOU

  • ARE IN A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT OR

  • POSITION.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU FOR YOUR

  • ANSWER, SIR.

  • >>> TO THE LEADER OF THE NDP

  • NOW, AND Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE

  • DESCRIBED YOURSELF IN THE PAST

  • AS MERCURIAL WHICH IS BY

  • DEFINITION SYNONYMOUS WITH

  • TEMPERAMENTAL, UNPREDICTABLE,

  • VOLATILE.

  • THE QUESTION FOR YOU IS -- AND

  • Mr. WEAVER RAISED IT ABOUT YOUR

  • TEMPER -- DO YOU HAVE AN ANGER

  • MANAGEMENT ISSUE?

  • >> OF COURSE NOT.

  • LOOK, I'M AN IRISH DESCENDENT

  • AND PASSIONATE.

  • WHEN I SEE A GOVERNMENT THAT

  • IGNORES CHILDREN IN CARE TO THE

  • POINT WHERE THEY TAKE THEIR OWN

  • LIVES, I GET ANGRY AND I THINK

  • BRITISH COLUMBIANS DO AS WELL.

  • WHEN I SEE A PREMIER FIGHT WITH

  • TEACHERS AND MAKE IT DIFFICULT

  • TO LEARN FOR A GENERATION OF

  • KIDS, I GET ANGRY.

  • I'M PASSIONATE AND FEEL STRONGLY

  • ABOUT A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES BUT

  • I HAVE ALWAYS MADE IT ABSOLUTELY

  • CLEAR IN MY CONSTITUENCY AND TO

  • WHEREVER I HAVE TRAVELLED

  • TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE

  • AT THE CENTRE OF MY POLITICS AND

  • EVERYTHING THAT I DO.

  • I GET UP EVERY DAY TRYING TO

  • MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR MY

  • NEIGHBOURS, TRYING TO MAKE LIFE

  • BETTER FOR MY COMMUNITY, AND TRY

  • AND MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS.

  • THAT'S WHY I'M IN THIS ELECTION.

  • THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SO

  • IMPORTANT THAT AFTER 16 YEARS OF

  • NEGLECT, IT'S TIME TO SEND THE

  • LIBERALS TO THE OPPOSITION

  • BENCHES AND WE HAVE PUT FORWARD

  • A PLATFORM THAT FOCUSES ON

  • PEOPLE, MAKING LIFE MORE

  • AFFORDABLE.

  • NOT INCREASING HYDRO RATES, NOT

  • INCREASING MSP RATES, NOT

  • INCREASING ICBC RATES, BUT

  • CAPPING THOSE UNTIL WE GET TO

  • THE BOTTOM OF THE ABSOLUTE MESS

  • THEY HAVE CREATED OVER THE PAST

  • 16 YEARS.

  • THESE CROWN CORPORATIONS ARE NOT

  • INSTANT TELLER MACHINES FOR THE

  • BC LIBERALS.

  • THEY WERE CREATED IN THE PAST BY

  • THE SO CRED GOVERNMENT AND THE

  • NDP GOVERNMENT TO BE THERE FOR

  • PEOPLE, NOT FOR POLITICIANS.

  • WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT.

  • AND YES I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT

  • THAT.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • >>> NEXT QUESTION TO Ms. CLARK

  • ON THIS TOPIC, AND IN THE PAST

  • YEAR AS PREMIER, THE RCMP

  • LAUNCHED AN INVESTIGATION INTO

  • CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AS A

  • RESULT OF DONATIONS TO YOUR

  • PARTY.

  • YOU FINALLY STOPPED TAKING A

  • SALARY TOP-UP AFTER PRETTY BIG

  • PUBLIC BACKLASH, AND YOU ALSO

  • FALSELY ACCUSED THE OPPOSITION

  • OF HACKING INTO YOUR PARTY'S

  • WEBSITE.

  • HOW DO YOU REPAIR BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS' DAMAGED TRUST IN

  • YOU?

  • >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE

  • THING THAT MATTERS MOST TO

  • BRITISH COLUMBIANS IS JOBS.

  • AND IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, WE HAVE

  • CREATED 226,000 NEW JOBS SINCE

  • THE INTRODUCTION OF THE JOBS

  • PLAN.

  • WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN JOB

  • CREATION IN THE COUNTRY.

  • WE HAVE THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT

  • IN THE COUNTRY.

  • SURE A LOT DIFFERENT FROM THE

  • NDP TIMES, WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT WAS

  • DOUBLE ON VANCOUVER ISLAND.

  • IT WAS 16% IN PLACES LIKE PRINCE

  • GEORGE.

  • I THINK WHAT MATTERS TO PEOPLE

  • IS LOWER TAXES.

  • WE ARE DELIVERING A BILLION

  • DOLLARS IN TAX CUTS FOR PEOPLE.

  • MORE JOBS.

  • WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN JOB

  • CREATION IN THE COUNTRY.

  • AND I WOULD SAY THAT IN THESE

  • TIMES OF RISING PROTECTIONISM IN

  • THE UNITED STATES AND THE

  • ELECTION OF PRESIDENT DONALD

  • TRUMP, WHAT BRITISH COLUMBIA IS

  • GOING TO NEED IS A LEADER WHO IS

  • TOUGH BUT WHO IS CALM AND IS

  • CONSIDERED.

  • A LEADER WHO DOES HER HOMEWORK.

  • WE CANNOT WIN DEALS LIKE THE

  • SOFTWOOD LUMBER AGREEMENT AND WE

  • CAN'T WIN THE OTHER

  • PROTECTIONIST MEASURES THE

  • AMERICANS ARE PROPOSING TO

  • UNDERTAKE IF WE DON'T CONTROL

  • OUR TEMPERS.

  • I AM SOMEONE, YOU ARE RIGHT, IN

  • MY TERM AS PREMIER HAS

  • EXPERIENCED SOME CONTROVERSY,

  • BUT I HAVE ALWAYS DONE THAT WITH

  • THE BEST INTEREST OF PEOPLE AT

  • HEART, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE

  • CREATING JOBS FOR PEOPLE.

  • I KNOW THAT IF WE LEAVE MORE

  • MONEY IN YOUR POCKET, YOU CAN

  • SPEND IT BETTER THAN GOVERNMENT

  • CAN, AND I DON'T THINK

  • GOVERNMENT SHOULD GET ANY

  • BIGGER.

  • THAT'S WHAT LEADERSHIP MEANS TO

  • ME.

  • IT MEANS REMEMBERING WHAT'S

  • IMPORTANT TO ORDINARY BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS, AND I HAVE ALWAYS

  • TRIED TO STICK WITH THAT.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms.

  • CLARK.

  • NOW THE LEADERS GET TO ASK EACH

  • OTHER ABOUT LEADERSHIP, AND ONCE

  • AGAIN, THERE IS A QUESTION

  • FOLLOWED BY AN UNINTERRUPTED

  • ANSWER, AND THEN A 90-SECOND

  • DEBATE.

  • SO WE BEGIN WITH Mr. WEAVER OF

  • THE GREENS WHO HAS A QUESTION

  • FOR Mr. HORGAN.

  • >> YES.

  • THANK YOU.

  • Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE PLAYED BOTH

  • SIDES OF THE BIG MONEY ISSUE.

  • ATTACKING Ms. CLARK ON THE ONE

  • HAND FOR TAKING MONEY FROM

  • CORPORATIONS AND UNIONS AND AT

  • THE SAME TIME ACCEPTING THEM

  • YOURSELF.

  • IF, AS YOU SAY, WE CAN'T TRUST

  • HER BECAUSE OF THESE DONATIONS,

  • HOW CAN PEOPLE TRUST YOU?

  • >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE

  • QUESTION, AND IT GIVES ME THE

  • OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE VIEWERS

  • AT HOME THAT WE, OVER THE PAST

  • TEN YEARS IN THE OFFICIAL

  • OPPOSITION, HAVE PUT FORWARD

  • LEGISLATION SIX TIMES TO GET BIG

  • MONEY OUT OF POLITICS, TO BAN

  • UNION AND CORPORATE DONATIONS,

  • TO PUT A CAP ON INDIVIDUAL

  • DONATIONS, TO PUT A CAP ON

  • DONATIONS FROM OUTSIDE OF

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA TO DO AWAY WITH

  • THAT.

  • THE BC LIBERALS VOTED AGAINST

  • IT.

  • THE BC LIBERALS WOULDN'T EVEN

  • ALLOW DEBATE TO TAKE PLACE THE

  • LAST TIME WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD.

  • I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO GET

  • BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS AND

  • THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR

  • AN NDP GOVERNMENT IS TO DO JUST

  • THAT.

  • IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR A GOVERNMENT,

  • MINISTERS OF THE CROWN AND THE

  • PREMIER, TO SIT DOWN WITH

  • DEVELOPERS, MINING COMPANIES,

  • AND OTHER COMPANIES, CHANGE

  • PERMITS, ISSUE REGULATION

  • CHANGES TO HELP THEM WITHOUT

  • PEOPLE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA BEING

  • PRETTY SKEPTICAL.

  • WE NEED TO GET MONEY OUT OF

  • POLITICS.

  • >> YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE

  • QUESTION.

  • YOU SPECIFICALLY STATED, WE

  • CAN'T TRUST THE BC LIBERALS'

  • DECISIONS BECAUSE OF THE MONEY

  • THAT'S GOING TO THEM AND YOU

  • HAVEN'T ANSWERED WHY WE CAN

  • TRUST YOU.

  • WE KNOW THAT THE UNITED

  • STEELWORKERS ARE PAYING TWO OF

  • YOUR SENIOR CAMPAIGN DIRECTORS

  • TO ACTUALLY RUN YOUR CAMPAIGN.

  • WE KNOW THAT THEY CONTRIBUTED

  • $1.7 MILLION TO YOUR CAMPAIGN

  • LAST YEAR.

  • WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS ON YOUR

  • CAMPAIGN?

  • IS IT YOU OR IS IT THE UNITED

  • STEELWORKERS?

  • HOW CAN WE TRUST YOU WHEN WE

  • RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE DON'T

  • DONATE $1.7 MILLION TO YOUR

  • PARTY WITHOUT AN EXPECTATION

  • SOMEWHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE

  • SOMETHING COMING BACK?

  • >> WORKING PEOPLE IN A PROVINCE

  • WHERE THEY HAVE SEEN 30,000 JOBS

  • SHED IN THE FOREST INDUSTRY WANT

  • SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO CHAMPION

  • TO THEM.

  • IT'S THE SAME COMMITMENT I GAVE

  • TO THE PEOPLE AT HOME.

  • I'M IN THIS FOR YOU.

  • THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION IF

  • THE NDP IS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO

  • FORM THE GOVERNMENT, WE'RE GOING

  • TO BAN BIG MONEY --

  • >> DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO.

  • >> TO PEOPLE --

  • >> DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO.

  • THE GREENS ARE PRINCIPLED.

  • >> SIX MONTHS AGO, YOU BECAME

  • PRINCIPLED.

  • IN SEPTEMBER --

  • >> BANNED THE DONATIONS TO OUR

  • PARTY RECOGNIZING IT WAS WRONG

  • AND A BIT RICH FOR YOU AND YOUR

  • PARTY TO STAND UP AND CRITICIZE

  • THE LIBERALS FOR DOING EXACTLY

  • WHAT YOU WERE DOING.

  • $10,000 --

  • [ Speaking Simultaneously ].

  • >> BECAUSE TAKEN BIG PILES OF

  • MONEY.

  • THE ONLY WAY WE STOP THAT IS TO

  • PUT --

  • >> BC LIBERALS ARE GOING TO WIN

  • THE NEXT ELECTION?

  • DID YOU JUST SAY THAT?

  • >> TAKE THE BIG MONEY OUT OF

  • POLITICS --

  • >> I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID

  • THAT, JOHN.

  • >> Jennifer: WE WILL LEAVE THAT

  • DEBATE PORTION ON THE FLOOR FOR

  • THE TIME BEING.

  • Mr. HORGAN, YOU ARE UP NEXT IF

  • YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT

  • TOPIC AND YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO ASK

  • Mr. WEAVER A QUESTION REGARDING

  • LEADERSHIP.

  • >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER.

  • YOUR DEPUTY LEADER HAS SAID

  • PUBLICLY HE HAS NO PROBLEM IN

  • SEEING FOUR MORE YEARS OF

  • CHRISTY CLARK.

  • I THINK THAT YOUR SUPPORTERS WHO

  • WANT TO SEE THE END OF THIS

  • GOVERNMENT, THE MOST

  • CORPORATE-FUNDED GOVERNMENT IN

  • THE HISTORY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA,

  • WOULD BE SURPRISED BY THAT.

  • WHY IS IT THAT IT'S OKAY FOR

  • YOUR DEPUTY LEADER TO SAY I'M

  • OKAY WITH THE LIBERALS WHILE YOU

  • SAY YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE

  • GOVERNMENT.

  • >> IN ACTUAL FACT, Mr. HORGAN,

  • YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO, THAT

  • Mr. OLSEN WAS ASKED A QUESTION

  • WITH RESPECT TO RUNNING IN A

  • CAMPAIGN.

  • FRANKLY, YOUR SUPPORTERS HAVE --

  • RATHER THAN OFFERING A VISION,

  • RATHER THAN OFFERING A VISION

  • FOR BRITISH COLUMBIANS TO GET

  • BEHIND, YOU HAVE HAD 16 YEARS TO

  • DO THAT.

  • 16 YEARS.

  • YOUR WHOLE NARRATIVE IS TO BE

  • BETTER THAN THE BC LIBERALS.

  • WELL, Mr. HORGAN, BETTER THAN

  • REALLY BAD IS JUST PLAIN BAD AND

  • THIS IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

  • YOU DON'T OFFER PEOPLE IDEAS.

  • YOU DON'T OFFER PEOPLE VISIONS.

  • YOU PULL UP RHETORIC.

  • YOU THROW IT OUT OF CONTEXT AND

  • TO YOU -- I'M SURE YOUR PARTISAN

  • SUPPORTERS THINK THIS IS GREAT.

  • BUT YOU HAVE TO TELL US WHAT YOU

  • DO.

  • YOU FAILED TO DO SO AGAIN.

  • YOU HAVE FAILED TO DO SO FOR 16

  • YEARS, WHICH IS WHY Mr. THE BC

  • GREENS HAVE GROWING ACROSS THE

  • PROVINCE BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW

  • WE'RE THERE FOR THEM.

  • >> YOU KNOW FULL WELL THAT THE

  • PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA HAVE

  • HAD 16 YEARS OF A BC LIBERAL

  • GOVERNMENT THAT HAS PUT THEIR

  • CORPORATE DONORS FIRST.

  • THEY HAVE PUT THE PEOPLE AT THE

  • BACK BURNER AND THE BC GREENS

  • HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING THAT.

  • YOU HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING THAT

  • OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

  • I THINK THE PEOPLE AT HOME WANT

  • TO KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE

  • ELECTING A GOVERNMENT THAT WILL

  • PUT THEM FIRST.

  • OUR PLATFORM IS THERE.

  • BC NDP.CA FOR EVERYONE TO GO AND

  • SEE.

  • TALKS ABOUT MAKING LIFE MORE

  • AFFORDABLE, THE SERVICES THAT

  • YOU CARE ABOUT, HEALTH CARE,

  • EDUCATION, BUILDING, TRANSIT,

  • DOING THE THINGS THAT WILL MAKE

  • OUR COMMUNITIES STRONGER --

  • >> THANK YOU, Mr. HORGAN --

  • THANK YOU FOR READING YOUR

  • PLATFORM OUT TO -- THE ISSUE

  • HERE, Mr. HORGAN --

  • >> WE'RE OFFERING THE PUBLIC A

  • CHANGE FROM WHAT WE HAVE HAD.

  • >> YOU HAVE HAD 16 YEARS.

  • >> HOPE FOR THE FUTURE.

  • I HAVE BEEN THE LEADER FOR THREE

  • YEARS.

  • >> YOU HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO

  • INSPIRE BRITISH COLUMBIANS --

  • [ Speaking Simultaneously ].

  • >> ON THE WEEKEND, AND THERE

  • WERE A THOUSAND PEOPLE THERE --

  • >> THERE WEREN'T A THOUSAND

  • PEOPLE IN THE COME DR BECAUSE --

  • >> YES, THERE WERE.

  • >> YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE

  • VICTORIA CONFERENCE CENTRE.

  • >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

  • [ Speaking Simultaneously ].

  • >> PEOPLE WANT TO CHANGE THE

  • GOVERNMENT.

  • AND YOU ARE OFFERING --

  • >> THAT IS NOT COSTED PROPERLY,

  • OUTRAGEOUS AND IN FACT --

  • >> IT'S NOT OUTRAGEOUS --

  • >> LET'S LOOK AT THE EDUCATION

  • FUND.

  • >> IT'S THE BC LIBERAL BUDGET --

  • >> NOTHING THERE FOR EDUCATION.

  • WE COMMIT $4 BILLION --

  • >> ON TWITTER AT 2 IN THE

  • MORNING, YOU HAVE THE

  • TEACHERS -- YOU ARE ON TWITTER

  • AT 2 IN THE MORNING ATTACKING

  • TEACHERS --

  • >> THERE WE GO.

  • PERSONAL ATTACKS FROM

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • >> TEACHERS TO MAKE PUBLIC

  • EDUCATION HAPPEN.

  • >> Jennifer: CALL FOR A TIMEOUT

  • RIGHT NOW AND LET COOLER HEADS

  • PREVAIL FOR JUST A COUPLE OF

  • SECONDS.

  • Ms. CLARK, IT IS YOUR TURN TO

  • DIRECT LEADERSHIP QUESTIONS TO

  • ONE OF THE OTHER LEADERS, AND

  • YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO DIRECT IT TO

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • AND I WILL NOT DEBATE WHETHER MY

  • RALLY IS BIGGER THAN YOUR RALLY,

  • Dr. WEAVER.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • >> I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE THAT

  • EITHER.

  • >> YEAH.

  • THE NDP AND THE GREENS ARE IN

  • ALMOST COMPLETE AGREEMENT TO

  • DOUBLE THE CARBON TAX IN JUST

  • TWO YEARS, DEVASTATING THOUSANDS

  • OF JOBS ALL ACROSS THE PROVINCE.

  • WHY ARE YOU PUTTING THOSE

  • THOUSANDS OF JOBS AT RISK, Dr.

  • WEAVER?

  • >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE

  • QUESTION, AND I'M VERY PLEASED

  • THAT YOU PUT THAT.

  • FIRST OFF, THE BC NDP HAVE --

  • HAVE ACTUALLY SAID THEY'LL DO

  • $50 SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD.

  • AS YOU KNOW, Ms. CLARK, WE

  • BELIEVE THAT LEADERS LEAD.

  • WE BELIEVE THAT WHEN Mr. GORDON

  • CAMPBELL STOOD UP AND RECOGNIZED

  • THAT CLIMATE CHANGE WAS AN

  • ISSUE, HE RECOGNIZED IT IN EVERY

  • CHALLENGE AS AN OPPORTUNITY,

  • WHICH IS WHY THE LIBERALS UNDER

  • CAMPBELL TOOK OF THE ISSUE OF

  • RAISING THE CARBON TAX TO $30 A

  • TONNE.

  • DID IT ACTUALLY HURT THE

  • ECONOMY?

  • NO.

  • THE BC ECONOMY OUTPERFORMED THE

  • CANADIAN ECONOMY BECAUSE IT WAS

  • THE EMERGING ECONOMY THAT WE

  • TOOK OFF IN.

  • WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE

  • CORRECT WAY.

  • YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE US BACK

  • INTO THE 20TH CENTURY, CHASING

  • JOBS THAT DON'T EXIST, SQUEEZING

  • WATER FROM ROCKS.

  • THE BC GREENS HAVE A VISION FOR

  • A NEW ECONOMY THAT PUTS PEOPLE

  • FIRST, THAT RECOGNIZES OUR

  • STRENGTHS AND BUILDS ON THOSE.

  • NOT CHASE THE WEAKNESSES OF

  • OTHERS.

  • >> Dr. WEAVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA

  • HAS LED THE WAY AND WE CONTINUE

  • TO LEAD THE WAY IN NORTH

  • AMERICA.

  • NO ONE ELSE ON THIS CONTINENT

  • PAYS A $30 CARBON TAX ALMOST

  • RIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.

  • WE ARE PROUD OF WHAT WE ARE

  • DOING.

  • UNITED NATIONS HAS RECOGNIZED --

  • >> RECOGNIZED Mr. CAMPBELL.

  • >> NO.

  • WHICH REMAINS --

  • >> RECOGNIZED Mr. CAMPBELL.

  • YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ON

  • CLIMATE CHANGE.

  • >> THE REASON THE CARBON TAX HAS

  • WORKED --

  • >> YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ON

  • THIS FILE.

  • >> WE PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO

  • YOUR POSHTH --

  • >> THIS IS WHY THE L.A. TIMES --

  • >> HOLD ON A SECOND.

  • HOLD ON A SECOND.

  • HAS GONE RIGHT BACK INTO --

  • >> YOU ARE PUTTING SOUND BITES

  • AND RHETORIC.

  • NOT DEALING WITH THE ISSUE.

  • >> IT MEANS WE HAVEN'T HURT JOBS

  • IN BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • MEANS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

  • ACHIEVE BEING THE FASTEST --

  • >> BECAUSE OF THE CARBON TAX.

  • CIRCULAR ARGUMENT.

  • >> BECAUSE THAT REVENUE CONTROL,

  • GOING BACK INTO CUTTING PEOPLE'S

  • TAXES TO KEEP THE ECONOMY

  • STRONG --

  • >> THE LA TIMES WROTE A SCATHING

  • ASSESSMENT OF YOUR CLIMATE

  • LEADERSHIP AND POINTED OUT THAT

  • BC HAS GONE FROM LEADERS TO

  • LAGGERS.

  • BRITISH COLUMBIANS LOVE TO BE

  • LEADERS.

  • THEY WON'T WANT TO BE FOLLOWERS.

  • LEADERS LEAD.

  • THEY DON'T WAIT FOR OTHERS TO

  • CATCH UP AND THEN FOLLOW THEM.

  • BC USED TO BE A LEADER.

  • I WAS PART OF THAT LEADERSHIP

  • TEAM THAT SET IN PLACE THOSE

  • POLICIES.

  • YOU SET UP A LEADERSHIP TEAM.

  • IGNORED THE RESULTS.

  • Mr. HORGAN IS TAKING SOME OF THE

  • RESULTS AND IGNORING OTHERS.

  • >> THE UNITED NATIONS, DR. --

  • NOT THE LA TIMES -- HAS

  • RECOGNIZED US AS A --

  • >> UNITED NATIONS RECOGNIZED

  • Mr. CAMPBELL'S EFFORTS AND

  • FRANKLY IT'S A BIT RICH TO TELL

  • ME WHAT THE U.N. -- AS I SERVED

  • ON THE U.N. PANEL ON CLIMATE

  • CHANGE, NOT ONE, TWO, THREE, BUT

  • FOUR TIMES OVER THE YEAR.

  • >> Jennifer: THAT IS TIME.

  • WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEBATE

  • PORTION.

  • WE WILL CONTINUE DEBATE BETWEEN

  • THE LEADERS BUT WE WANT TO

  • SWITCH JUST NOW TO A LITTLE MORE

  • FREE FORM PART OF THE DEBATE

  • THAT WE'RE CALLING HOT TOPICS.

  • THE CONSORTIUM CAME UP WITH A

  • SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR EACH

  • LEADER.

  • ONCE AGAIN HAVE 1:30 TO ANSWER

  • THOSE QUESTIONS.

  • NO DEBATE AGAIN ON THESE

  • PARTICULAR QUESTIONS BUT WE'RE

  • LOOKING FOR CONCISE AND DIRECT

  • ANSWERS.

  • WE'LL BEGIN WITH Mr. HORGAN.

  • YOU ARE ON THE RECORD AS BEING

  • OPPOSED TO KINDER MORGAN

  • EXPANSION, AGAINST THE SITE C

  • DAM PROJECT AS WELL AS AGAINST

  • THE CURRENT PROPOSAL TO REPLACE

  • THE MASSEY TUNNEL WITH A BRIDGE.

  • WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO

  • ARE COUNTING ON THOSE SPECIFIC

  • JOBS?

  • >> CERTAINLY THE KINDER MORGAN

  • EXPANSION IS NOT IN THE INTEREST

  • OF BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • A SEVEN-FOLD INCREASE IN TANKER

  • TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF OUR MAJOR

  • METROPOLITAN CENTRE, THROUGH THE

  • GULF ISLANDS UP THE STRAIT OF

  • JUAN DE FUCA IS NOT IN THE

  • INTEREST OF OUR PEOPLE, ECONOMY

  • OUR ENVIRONMENT.

  • SITE C, I BELIEVE THAT EVERY

  • PROJECT THAT BC HYDRO HAS DONE

  • SINCE THE 1980s HAS HAD TO GO TO

  • OUR INDEPENDENT BC UTILITIES

  • COMMISSION TO GET INDEPENDENT

  • ASSESSMENT AND APPROVAL AND

  • CROSS-EXAMINATION OF WHERE BC

  • HYDRO'S PROCEEDING.

  • CHRISTY CLARK SAID NO TO THAT

  • AND IS RAMMING THROUGH A NINE,

  • TEN, $11 BILLION DAM WITHOUT

  • ANYONE SAYING IT'S A GOOD IDEA

  • EXCEPT BC LIBERALS.

  • I DON'T THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE

  • PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE

  • FACT THAT HYDRO RATES HAVE GONE

  • UP 87% ON THE LIBERALS' WATCH.

  • WE HAVE OTHER THINGS WE CAN

  • INVEST IN THAT ARE CHEAPER AND

  • SERVE US BETTER IN THE LONG

  • TERM.

  • WHEN IT COMES TO THE MASSEY

  • BRIDGE, I WANT TO FOLLOW THE

  • TEN-YEAR PLAN OF THE MAYOR TO

  • BUILD TRANSPORTATION IN THE

  • LOWER MAINLAND, AND EVERY MAYOR

  • IN THE REGION, SAVE ONE, THINKS

  • THAT THE MASSEY TUNNEL

  • REPLACEMENT IS NOT THE RIGHT

  • SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM.

  • WE NEED TO DEAL WITH CONGESTION

  • THERE BUT WE HAVE MORE PRESSING

  • ISSUES.

  • THE PATTULLO BRIDGE IS PAST THE

  • LIFE CYCLE IN FIVE YEARS IT

  • NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND THE

  • LIBERALS HAVE ARED THAT.

  • THEY HAVE GONE FORWARD --

  • IGNORED -- WITH A PLAN THAT NO

  • ONE ELSE IN THE REGION SUPPORTS

  • EXCEPT THEM.

  • WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER

  • SOLUTIONS TO MEET OUR

  • TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGING.

  • >> Jennifer: Mr. WEAVER, YOUR

  • QUESTION IS THIS: YOU HAVE COME

  • OUT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE POLICY

  • PLATFORM AND YOU ARE RUNNING

  • CANDIDATES IN EVERY ALMOST EVERY

  • RIDING.

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR CHANCES

  • ARE OF FORMING GOVERNMENT AND

  • WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO

  • MAY THINK A VOTE FOR THE GREEN

  • PARTY IS ACTUALLY A WASTED VOTE.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION

  • AND I DO APPRECIATE IT.

  • LOOK, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST

  • ELECTION, THE PARTY THAT WON THE

  • LAST ELECTION WAS NOT THE BC

  • LIBERALS.

  • IT WAS THE NON-VOTER.

  • 45% OF BRITISH COLUMBIANS.

  • THAT'S ALMOST ONE IN TWO BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS DIDN'T BOTHER TO VOTE

  • BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT INSPIRED

  • TO VOTE.

  • THE BC GREENS OFFER PEOPLE

  • SOMETHING TO VOTE FOR, NOT VOTE

  • AGAINST.

  • I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF

  • PEOPLE WHO VOTE BC LIBERAL.

  • NOT BECAUSE THEY LIKE WHAT THEY

  • STAND FOR, BUT THEY ARE SCARED

  • ABOUT WHAT THE BC NDP STAND FOR.

  • I KNOW THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE

  • WHO VOTE BC NDP.

  • NOT BECAUSE THEY LIKE WHAT THEY

  • STAND FOR.

  • BECAUSE THEY FEAR THEM AND

  • DISLIKE WHAT THE BC LIBERALS

  • STAND FOR.

  • I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CHECK OUT

  • OUR PLATFORM, BCGREENS.CA,

  • BECAUSE OUR FUTURE IS YOUR

  • HANDS.

  • IF YOU COME OUT AND VOTE,

  • ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

  • YOU KNOW, THIS QUESTION COULD

  • HAVE BEEN POSED TO Mr. SILVER IN

  • YUKON, WHO HAD ONE SEAT GOING

  • INTO THE LAST YUKON ELECTION AND

  • CAME OUT WITH A MAJORITY

  • GOVERNMENT.

  • OR RACHEL NOTLEY, WHO CAME OUT

  • WITH A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT.

  • THIS QUESTION COULD HAVE BEEN

  • POSED TO Mr. TRUDEAU, WHO HAD 33

  • I BELIEVE SEATS AND THIRD PLACE

  • AND CAME OUT WITH A STRONG

  • MAJORITY OF GOVERNMENT.

  • IT IS PRESUMPTIONOUS TO THINK

  • THAT ANYONE OWNS A VOTE.

  • OUR FUTURE IS IN YOUR HANDS.

  • IF YOU VOTE FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE

  • IN INSTEAD OF THE FEAR MONGERING

  • TACTICS PARTICULARLY FROM

  • Mr. HORGAN, RATHER THAN

  • INSPIRING A VOTER WITH A VISION

  • THEY CAN GET BEHIND ESSENTIALLY

  • RUNS THE NARRATIVE YOU HAVE GOT

  • TO VOTE FOR US BECAUSE YOU ARE

  • BETTER THAN THE BC LIBERALS.

  • BETTER THAN REALLY BAD IS STILL

  • BAD.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU.

  • Ms. CLARK, YOU ARE OFTEN TOUTING

  • THE ECONOMIC SUCCESS OF THE

  • PROVINCE.

  • YET BC STILL HAS THE HIGHEST

  • CHILD POVERTY RATES IN THE

  • COUNTRY.

  • WELFARE RATES HADN'T RISEN IN

  • TEN YEARS.

  • HOW CAN YOU BRAG ABOUT THE

  • ECONOMY WHEN IT APPEARS SO MANY

  • HAVE BEEN LEFT BEHIND?

  • >> WE HAVE REDUCED CHILD POVERTY

  • BY 50% IN BRITISH COLUMBIA AND

  • WE NEED TO DO MUCH MORE, AND IN

  • A PROVINCE THAT'S GOT THE

  • FASTEST RATE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH,

  • 226,000 JOBS SINCE WE INTRODUCED

  • THE JOBS PLAN, OVER 90% OF THEM

  • FULL-TIME JOBS, WE NEED TO MAKE

  • SURE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING

  • PEOPLE IN FINDING THEIR WAY INTO

  • WORK.

  • THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE

  • SURE PEOPLE CAN LOOK AFTER THE

  • ONES THAT THEY LOVE.

  • BEING ON SOCIAL ASSISTANCE ISN'T

  • A GREAT LONG-TERM ANSWER FOR

  • ANYBODY.

  • AND I KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE ON

  • SOCIAL ASSISTANCE DO WANT TO

  • FIND THEIR WAY INTO THE

  • WORKFORCE.

  • WE HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF THINGS,

  • IN PARTICULAR SUPPORTING SINGLE

  • PARENTS -- MOST OF THEM MOMS,

  • BUT SOME OF THEM DADS -- WE PAY

  • TUITION, CHILDCARE, BOOKS,

  • TRANSPORTATION, AND WE WILL

  • SUPPORT YOU FINDING THAT SKILLS

  • TRAINING THAT YOU NEED TO GET

  • OFF SOCIAL ASSISTANCE AND INTO A

  • JOB BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS

  • BELIEVED THAT THE BEST WAY TO

  • ALLEVIATE POVERTY AND THE REASON

  • WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE IT

  • BY 50% FOR CHILDREN IN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA IS BECAUSE WE CREATE

  • JOBS FOR PEOPLE.

  • AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE

  • HAVE THE TRAINING TO TAKE THOSE

  • JOBS AND THAT ONCE THEY GET A

  • JOB, THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO

  • GET A BETTER JOB AND THAT THEIR

  • CHILDREN HAVE A CHANCE TO GET A

  • JOB.

  • BOTH THE NDP AND THE GREENS HAVE

  • A BIG PLAN TO KILL JOBS IN

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • I'D LIKE THE CHANCE TO KEEP

  • LEADING IN CREATING JOBS AND

  • MAKING SURE WE STAY NUMBER ONE.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms.

  • CLARK.

  • MOVE TO THE SECOND PART OF HOT

  • TOPICS AND THAT'S A CHANCE FOR

  • THE LEADERS THEMSELVES TO ASK

  • ANOTHER LEADER ANY QUESTION THEY

  • CHOOSE, NO HOLDS BARRED.

  • 15 SECONDS TO ASK THE QUESTION.

  • 45 UNINTERRUPTED SECONDS TO

  • REPLY AND THEN THE TWO LEADERS

  • WILL DEBATE THE ISSUE FOR AN

  • ENTIRE MINUTE AND A HALF.

  • THE FIRST LEADER TO LEADER HOT

  • TOPIC QUESTION GOES TO

  • Mr. HORGAN, WHO HAS CHOSEN TO

  • DIRECT HIS QUESTION TO LIBERAL

  • LEADER CHRISTY CLARK.

  • Mr. HORGAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • AFTER 16 YEARS OF ILLEGAL CUTS

  • TO PUBLIC EDUCATION AFTER THE

  • SUPREME COURT SAID THAT YOUR

  • CHOICES AS MINISTER OF EDUCATION

  • AND YOUR CHOICES AS PREMIER WERE

  • AGAINST THE LAW, YOU HAVE NEVER

  • APOLOGIZED TO THE KIDS THAT LOST

  • A GENERATION OF EDUCATIONAL

  • OPPORTUNITY, YOU NEVER

  • APOLOGIZED TO THEIR PARENTS, TO

  • TEACHERS.

  • WILL YOU DO THAT TODAY?

  • WILL YOU APOLOGIZE TO THE KIDS,

  • THE GENERATION THAT YOU STOLED?

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE KWECHLT I'M

  • GLAD TO GET -- QUESTION.

  • I'M GLAD TO TALK ABOUT EDUCATION

  • BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE SINGLE

  • MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT WE CAN

  • MAKE.

  • IT'S INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE.

  • I THINK HOW MANY PARENTS COME TO

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA MAKING

  • TREMENDOUS SACRIFICES, WE OWE IT

  • TO THEM TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE

  • BEST EDUCATION POSSIBLE FOR

  • THEIR CHILDREN.

  • THE NDP PLAN DOESN'T INCLUDE A

  • NEW PENNY FOR EDUCATION.

  • THEY MUST THINK THAT WE'RE DOING

  • SOMETHING RIGHT.

  • AND OUR KIDS IN BC ARE NUMBER

  • ONE IN READING IN INTERNATIONAL

  • COMPARISONS AROUND THE WORLD,

  • NUMBER TWO IN SCIENCE, NUMBER

  • SIX IN MATH, AND AS A RESULT OF

  • THE AGREEMENT THAT WE CAME TO

  • WITH THE BCTF, WE ARE ADDING

  • JUST ABOUT 3,000 TEACHERS TO

  • KLOPPS WHICH I THINK WILL MAKE

  • IT EVEN BETTER -- CLASSROOM --

  • >> YOU SHORTCHANGED AN ENTIRE

  • GENERATION OF KIDS FROM

  • KINDERGARTEN THROUGH GRADE 1

  • THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORTS IN

  • CLASSROOMS THEY DESERVED, NO

  • SPECIALIST TEACHERS, NO TEACHER

  • LIBRARIANS, AND NO COUNSELLORS.

  • KIDS COULDN'T GET ASSESSMENTS

  • FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

  • YOU ARE ONLY YOUNG ONCE, Ms.

  • CLARK, AND YOU STOLE A

  • GENERATION OF KIDS BECAUSE OF

  • YOUR BULL HEADED ON PUBLIC

  • EDUCATION --

  • >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM -- I

  • DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG --

  • >> ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE.

  • >> THE THING IS THAT -- I MEAN,

  • THAT PUTS THE LIGHT TO THAT IS

  • THE FACT THAT OUR KIDS ARE

  • NUMBER ONE IN INTERNATIONAL

  • COMPARISONS --

  • >> DESPITE YOUR GOVERNMENT, Ms.

  • CLARK.

  • DESPITE YOUR GOVERNMENT.

  • BECAUSE OF THE PROFESSIONALISM

  • OF THE TEACHERS IN THIS GREAT

  • PROVINCE.

  • >> THAT'S PRETTY GOOD --

  • >> THE SUPREME COURT TOOK 15

  • MINUTES --

  • >> HOLD ON A SECOND.

  • >> 15 MINUTES TO TELL YOU YOU

  • WERE WRONG.

  • >> WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO --

  • >> YOU CAN'T APOLOGIZE FOR

  • ANYTHING, CAN YOU.

  • YOU CAN NEVER TAKE

  • RESPONSIBILITY.

  • >> THE NDP HASN'T PROMISED A

  • SINGLE NEW PENNY FOR EDUCATION

  • IN BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • >> YOU CAN'T APOLOGIZE FOR

  • ANYTHING -- NEVER ACCOUNTABLE,

  • NEVER RESPONSIBLE -- THAT'S THE

  • LIBERAL WAY.

  • >> THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT

  • THING WE CAN -- WE ARE MAKING --

  • >> PARENTS FORCED TO FUNDRAISE

  • FOR TEXTBOOKS.

  • YOUR LEGACY.

  • >> WE ARE MAKING THAT

  • INVESTMENT --

  • >> FORCED TO MAKE --

  • >> WE ARE NEED TO KEEP DOING

  • BETTER.

  • SO WE CAN STAY AHEAD AND WE'RE

  • GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT

  • INVESTMENT IN KIDS.

  • >> FUNDRAISING FOR TEXTBOOKS.

  • THAT'S THE BC LIBERAL PUBLIC

  • EDUCATION LEGACY.

  • >> Jennifer: I NEED TO STOP YOU

  • THERE.

  • OUT OF TIME FOR THAT PORTION OF

  • THE DEBATE.

  • OUR NEXT LEADER ASKING A

  • QUESTION OF THEIR CHOOSING IS

  • GREENS' LEADER ANDREW WEAVER,

  • WHO IS DIRECTING HIS QUESTION TO

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • Mr. ANDREW WEAVER, YOU MAY GO

  • AHEAD.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY

  • TO ASK THIS.

  • Mr. HORGAN, YOU MADE A PROMISE

  • TO ABOLISH MSP PREMIUMS YET YOU

  • AND YOUR CANDIDATES KEEP

  • CHANGING YOUR POSITION HOW YOU

  • WILL PAY FOR IT.

  • HOW CAN BRITISH COLUMBIANS TRUST

  • THAT YOUR LEADERSHIP, WHEN YOU

  • PROMISED -- WHEN YOU WON'T TAKE

  • A CLEAR STAND ON A MAJOR PROMISE

  • YOU HAVE MADE?

  • >> I HAVE BEEN CRYSTAL CLEAR ON

  • THE PREMIUMS RIGHT FROM THE

  • START.

  • WE ARE THE ONLY PROVINCE IN THE

  • COUNTRY THAT HAS THEM AND OVER

  • THE PAST 16 YEARS, THE BC

  • LIBERALS HAVE DOUBLED THEM.

  • EVERY YEAR FROM 2008 UNTIL THIS

  • YEAR, 4% INCREASE EVERY JANUARY.

  • AND THE BC LIBERALS REFUSED TO

  • ACKNOWLEDGE THIS WAS A PROBLEM

  • UNTIL THEY WERE, AGAIN, DRAGGED

  • KICKING AND SCREAMING.

  • OUR PLAN IS TO ELIMINATE HALF OF

  • THE PREMIUMS BY JANUARY 2018 AND

  • PUT IN PLACE A BLUE RIBBON PANEL

  • TO LOOK AT THE PEOPLE INVOLVED

  • IN THE COLLECTION OF MSP AND

  • ELIMINATE BY THE END OF OUR

  • FIRST TERM.

  • THAT'S YOUR COMMITMENT AND

  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

  • >> WELL, MAY I PROCEED?

  • >> Jennifer: YES.

  • DEBATE AGAIN.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • THAT MIGHT BE FINE AND DANDY,

  • BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE BASICALLY

  • SAYING THEN THAT YOU HAVE A

  • PLAN -- TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO

  • COME UP WITH A PLAN.

  • >> CORRECT.

  • CORRECT.

  • >> HOW CAN WE TRUST -- YOU HAVE

  • A PLAN TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO COME

  • UP WITH A PLAN, YET YOU STOOD

  • BEFORE PEOPLE AND HAVE TOLD

  • BRITISH COLUMBIANS YOU ARE GOING

  • TO ELIMINATE MSP --

  • >> IN THE TERM -- YOU SAID

  • EARLIER --

  • >> COULD I ACTUALLY GET SOME

  • WORDS IN.

  • YOUR FINANCE CRITIC SAID YOU

  • WOULD INTRODUCE A PROGRESSIVE

  • SYSTEM --

  • >> YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU

  • SHOULD BE ABLE TO BALANCE OVER

  • YOUR CYCLE OF TIME IN

  • GOVERNMENT.

  • WHAT IS IT OKAY FOR YOU TO SAY

  • THAT BUT NOT OKAY FOR ME TO SAY

  • THAT?

  • >> IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO SAY

  • THAT, Mr. HORGAN, BUT YOU HAVE

  • SAID SO MANY THINGS --

  • >> WHY DOES IT ONLY BELONG TO

  • YOU?

  • [ Speaking Simultaneously ].

  • >> IT'S IN THE PLATFORM, I HAVE

  • JUST SAID IT AGAIN.

  • WE'RE GOING TO CUT THE PREMIUMS

  • IN HALF IN JANUARY AND WE'RE

  • GOING TO ELIMINATE THEM AT THE

  • END OF THE FIRST TIME OF AN

  • NDP --

  • >> AND THEN HAVE A PANEL TO COME

  • UP WITH A PLAN TO HAVE A PLAN

  • AND HAVE A PLAN.

  • TYPICAL NDP PLAN.

  • >> YOU SAY YOU WANT TO HAVE A

  • FOUR-YEAR PLAN AND THAT'S OKAY

  • FOR YOU.

  • IF SOMEONE ELSE SAYS THAT,

  • THAT'S NOT OKAY.

  • >> WE HAVE ARTICULATED PRECISELY

  • HOW WE WILL ELIMINATE THE MSP,

  • BY FOLLOWING THE ONTARIO MODEL.

  • I WAS THE FIRST TO RAISE THIS IN

  • THE LEGISLATURE --

  • >> THE FIRST?

  • THE FIRST, Mr. WEAVER --

  • >> 50,000 PEOPLE -- AND GOT BOTH

  • PARTIES HERE.

  • THE BC GREENS GOT BOTH PARTIES.

  • >> ELIMINATED IN THE FIRST TERM

  • OF AN NDP GOVERNMENT.

  • MSP WILL BE ELIMINATED IN THE

  • FIRST TERM OF THE NDP

  • GOVERNMENT.

  • >> WE CAN MAKE POLITICS HAPPEN

  • HERE IN BC.

  • >> OH, MY GOODNESS.

  • >> GOING TO GET MAD AT ME NOW

  • TOO?

  • >> COME ON, MAN.

  • >> Jennifer: LET'S KEEP THIS

  • RESPECTFUL, SHALL WE?

  • LAST OF THE OPEN DEBATE

  • QUESTIONS NOW.

  • LIBERAL LEADER CHRISTY CLARK HAS

  • A QUESTION FOR Mr. HORGAN.

  • GO AHEAD.

  • >> INDEPENDENT ECONOMISTS HAVE

  • VERIFIED THAT Mr. HORGAN'S

  • ECONOMIC PLAN IS COMPLETELY

  • UNAFFORDABLE FOR THE PEOPLE OF

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA RESULTING IN

  • HIGHER TAXES AND HUGE DEFICITS.

  • WHY ARE YOU PUTTING Mr. HORGAN,

  • OUR KIDS, INTO A CRATER OF DEBT

  • TO TUNE OF $6 BILLION?

  • >> FIRST OF ALL, Ms. CLARK,

  • INDEPENDENT ECONOMISTS AREN'T

  • INDEPENDENT WHEN THE BC LIBERALS

  • HIRE THEM TO DO THE ANALYSIS,

  • AND THEY DID AN ANALYSIS

  • INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH ON THE

  • FISCAL PLAN THAT THE MINISTRY OF

  • FINANCE TABLED IN THE

  • LEGISLATURE BACK IN FEBRUARY.

  • WE TOOK THE NUMBERS THAT YOU PUT

  • BEFORE THE PUBLIC AND THEN RAN

  • OFF TO SPEND PUBLIC MONEY

  • CAMPAIGNING, SPENDING TAX

  • DOLLARS ON $20 MILLION WORTH OF

  • ADS ON TELEVISION.

  • WE TOOK THOSE NUMBERS AND WE

  • MADE DIFFERENT CHOICES.

  • WE MADE CHOICES FOR PEOPLE.

  • WE MADE CHOICES TO MAKE SURE

  • THAT THE SERVICES THAT PEOPLE

  • DEPEND ON AND THEY CARE ABOUT

  • WERE THERE FOR THEM.

  • THAT'S OUR PLAN BASED ON THE

  • NUMBERS YOUR FINANCE MINISTER

  • TABLED, YOU HIRE SOMEONE TO DO

  • AN ANALYSIS, THEY ARE NOT

  • INDEPENDENT ANYMORE, Ms. CLARK,

  • THEY ARE EMPLOYEES.

  • YOU HIRED TWO PEOPLE FROM

  • ONTARIO TO DO A HATCHET JOB ON

  • THE PLAN THAT WE EMBRACED THAT

  • WAS TABLED BY YOUR FINANCE

  • MINISTER.

  • >> Mr. HORGAN, IT'S A $6 BILLION

  • PLAN.

  • YOU HAVE GOT MSP, WHICH YOU ARE

  • GOING TO CALL HIGHER TAXES, JUST

  • BY ANOTHER NAME --

  • >> Ms. CLARK, YOU HAVE DOUBLED

  • THOSE PREMIUMS OVER THE PAST --

  • >> THEY ARE AT 1993 LEVELS.

  • >> NO CREDIBILITY.

  • THEY ARE NOT.

  • >> YES, THEY ARE --

  • >> THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE IN

  • JANUARY.

  • THIS IS A TYPICAL BC LIBERAL

  • PROMISE.

  • >> HANG ON.

  • >> WE'LL DO SOMETHING FOR YOU

  • AFTER THE ELECTION.

  • EVERYTHING YOU DO, Ms. CLARK, IS

  • PREDICATED ON WINNING AN

  • ELECTION, NOT ON GOVERNING FOR

  • THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • >> WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO BE ABLE

  • TO TALK, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE

  • WANT --

  • >> PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU STAND

  • FOR, Ms. CLARK, AND THAT'S WHY

  • THEY WANT YOU GONE.

  • >> THE BC LIBERALS PLAN IS $6

  • BILLION IN NEW SPENDING THAT HAS

  • TO COME -- NDP --

  • >> THEY HAVE ACCOUNTED IT IN THE

  • FISCAL PLAN THAT WE TABLED TWO

  • WEEKS AGO.

  • >> IT WILL BE IN HIGHER TAXES

  • AND DEFICITS THAT OUR KIDS

  • ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PAY AS THE

  • DEBT --

  • >> BALANCING IN YEAR ONE, TWO,

  • THREE --

  • >> Mr. HORGAN, YOU INTRODUCED

  • YOUR GOVERNMENT -- YOUR

  • GOVERNMENT INTRODUCED EIGHT

  • CONSECUTIVE --

  • >> IT WASN'T MY GOVERNMENT.

  • IT'S 2017, Ms. CLARK.

  • >> OUR GOVERNMENT HAS

  • INTRODUCED --

  • >> PEOPLE AT HOME WANT TO KNOW

  • WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR

  • THEM TOMORROW?

  • THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE INTERESTED

  • IN.

  • >> THAT'S NOT TRUE.

  • I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT

  • WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THEIR KIDS

  • AND MAKE SURE THEIR KIDS HAVE A

  • GREAT FUTURE.

  • >> TOMORROW.

  • TOMORROW.

  • >> I THINK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO

  • SACRIFICE TO LOOK AFTER THEIR

  • KIDS DON'T JUST WANT TO KNOW

  • ABOUT TOMORROW.

  • I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT

  • THE LONG-TERM FUTURE --

  • >> THAT'S TOMORROW, Ms. CLARK.

  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT --

  • >> THAT MEANS MAKING SURE THAT

  • WE RELIEVE THEM OF DEBT AS MUCH

  • AS WE CAN, THAT WE KEEP TAXES

  • LOW AND CREATE JOBS FOR THEM.

  • >> TIME IS UP.

  • >> Jennifer: TIME IS UP.

  • YOU ARE CORRECT.

  • A SPIRITED DEBATE.

  • BOTH LOOKED INVESTED.

  • I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE YOU A FEW

  • EXTRA SECONDS.

  • >> I'M SORRY.

  • >> Jennifer: NOT AT ALL.

  • THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING THE

  • TIME.

  • >> UNBELIEVABLE.

  • UNBELIEVABLE.

  • >> Jennifer: FASCINATING TO

  • LISTEN TO.

  • >> JUST LOVE TALKING.

  • >> Jennifer: NO, NO, THAT'S

  • FINE.

  • >>> LET'S MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS

  • FROM THE VIEWERS AND LISTENERS.

  • AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE

  • RECEIVED SOME 1,300 SUBMISSIONS

  • AND WE WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU

  • FOR TAKING THE TIME.

  • BUT WE WERE ONLY TABLE TO USE A

  • SELECT FEW, OBVIOUSLY.

  • SO IN THIS ROUND, THINGS WILL

  • SPEED UP A LITTLE BIT.

  • EACH LEADER WILL RESPOND TO THE

  • QUESTION WITH A 45-SECOND OR

  • LESS ANSWER.

  • SO HERE WE GO.

  • OUR FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE

  • SOFTWOOD LUMBER TARIFF ANNOUNCED

  • BY THE UNITED STATES.

  • VERN RAT CLIFF OF COURTENAY

  • ASKED THIS: WHAT DO YOU INTEND

  • TO DO TO HELP THE BACKBONE OF

  • THIS PROVINCE WITH A 20% TARIFF

  • ON SOFTWOOD LUMBER?

  • CHRISTY CLARK STARTS US OFF

  • FOLLOWED BY ANDREW WEAVER AND

  • THEN JOHN HORGAN.

  • >> 60,000 PEOPLE DEPEND ON IT,

  • ON FOREST INDUSTRY.

  • 140 COMMUNITIES.

  • JOHN HORGAN HASN'T RAISED IT

  • ONCE IN QUESTION PERIOD IN THE

  • LEGISLATURE.

  • I AM GOING TO FIGHT FOR JOBS.

  • I AM GOING TO STAND TOE TO TOE.

  • I'M GOING TO BE TOUGH.

  • I WILL BE STRONG, AND I WILL BE

  • CALM AND RESILIENT IN MAKING

  • SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST,

  • FAIREST DEAL FOR BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA WHEN IT COMES TO

  • SOFTWOOD.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW

  • WHY -- WHY Mr. HORGAN TURTLED

  • WHEN IT CAME TO SOFTWOOD.

  • IT'S BECAUSE HE IS TAKING HIS

  • ORDERS FROM THE UNION IN

  • PITTSBURGH THAT IS FIGHTING FOR

  • AMERICAN JOBS AND STANDING

  • BESIDE DONALD TRUMP WHEN HE --

  • WHEN HE CALLS OUR FOREST WORKERS

  • A DISGRACE.

  • WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK AND

  • TO FIGHT FOR YOU.

  • I HAVE A RECORD OF FIGHTING FOR

  • JOBS IN OUR PROVINCE.

  • I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT

  • WHEN IT COMES TO SOFTWOOD.

  • AND I WANT PEOPLE IN THOSE

  • COMMUNITIES AND OUR VIEWER

  • TONIGHT TO KNOW WE HAVE GOT YOUR

  • BACK.

  • >> Jennifer: GO AHEAD,

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS LOOMING

  • ISSUE FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

  • AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS

  • NOT HAPPENED IS THIS GOVERNMENT

  • HAS NOT GONE TO OTTAWA TO RAISE

  • THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE, TO GET

  • NEGOTIATIONS HAPPENING EARLY,

  • COLLECTIVELY, PROVINCE-WIDE,

  • CANADA-WIDE.

  • YOU KNOW, OUR RECOGNITION IS

  • THAT THE RESOURCES IN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA ARE OWNED BY THE

  • PEOPLE.

  • THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY

  • MULTINATIONALS.

  • THIS GOVERNMENT'S APPROACH HAS

  • TO GIVE -- HAS BEEN TO GIVE

  • TIMBER LOT LICENCES TO

  • MULTINATIONALS.

  • FIVE COMPANIES OWN VIRTUALLY ALL

  • THE LOTS HERE IN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA AND THEY ARE BUYING UP

  • SAW MILLS IN THE STATES STATES

  • TO SHIP RAW LOGS TO THE STATES

  • TO BE MILLED THERE.

  • WE NEED TO LOOK HARD AT THE

  • LICENSING PROJECT BECAUSE WE

  • BELIEVE BC COMPANIES, BC PEOPLE

  • SHOULD BE PUT FIRST, NOT THE

  • MULTINATIONALS WHO ARE BASED

  • ELSEWHERE.

  • >> Jennifer: Mr. HORGAN, YOU

  • HAVE THE FLOOR.

  • >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER.

  • I HAVE WORKED IN THE FOREST

  • INDUSTRY.

  • I REPRESENT A FORMER FORESTRY

  • COMMUNITY THAT NO LONGER IS A

  • FORESTRY COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE

  • LOGS ARE LEAVING THE COMMUNITY

  • AND GOING OFFSHORE.

  • THAT'S THE BC LIBERAL LEGACY.

  • Ms. CLARK HAD TWO AND A HALF

  • YEARS TO STAND UP FOR FOREST

  • WORKERS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA AND

  • SHE CHOSE NOT TO.

  • SHE COULD HAVE GONE TO

  • WASHINGTON LIKE THE PREMIER OF

  • ALBERTA AND THE PREMIER OF

  • SASKATCHEWAN, TO DEFEND OUR

  • INTERESTS AGAINST A

  • PROTECTIONIST ADMINISTRATION.

  • SHE CHOSE NOT TO.

  • MY COMMITMENT TO FOREST WORKERS

  • AND PEOPLE DEPENDING ON A DEAL

  • TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN

  • CONTINUE TO THRIVE AND PROSPER

  • WITH OUR RENEWABLE RESOURCE SO

  • MAKE SURE I'M WORKING ON IT

  • EVERY SINGLE DAY, MAKE SURE I

  • HAVE YOUR BACK, FIGHTING FOR

  • YOUR AND FIGHTING FOR A DEAL FOR

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA'S FOUNDATIONAL

  • INDUSTRY.

  • IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO ME

  • AND BRITISH COLUMBIANS.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU VERY

  • MUCH.

  • WE'LL MOVE ON TO YOUR NEXT

  • QUESTION NOW.

  • AND IT IS REGARDING THE FENTANYL

  • CRISIS.

  • IT'S FROM JACQUES MAREUX IN

  • VANCOUVER.

  • HIS QUESTION IS: MY FAMILY

  • TEMPORARILY MOVED TO CHINATOWN

  • IN FROM POINT GREY, GROUND ZERO

  • OF THE OPIOID CRISIS.

  • EVERY TIME WE HEAR A SIREN, WE

  • THINK SOMEONE ELSE HAS DIED.

  • WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO ADDRESS THE

  • PROBLEM?

  • ANDREW WEAVER WILL START OFF BY

  • US, FOLLOWED BY JOHN HORGAN AND

  • CHRISTY CLARK.

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE KWECHLT

  • IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

  • THIS PROBLEM HAS THREE ASPECTS

  • TO IT.

  • NUMBER ONE IS THE ISSUE OF

  • PREVENTION.

  • NUMBER TWO, HARM REDUCTION AND

  • NUMBER THREE, THE PATHWAY TO

  • RECOVERY.

  • THE BC GREENS RECOGNIZE AN OUNCE

  • OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POUND

  • OF CURE.

  • WE HAVE MADE A PROMISE TO INVEST

  • $4 BILLION IN OUR PUBLIC

  • EDUCATION SYSTEM.

  • WE HAVE A GENERATION OF CHILDREN

  • WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE

  • SYSTEM, WHO HAD THOSE SERVICES

  • TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM.

  • THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE

  • PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES.

  • THEY CAN'T GET ASSESSED AND

  • PROBLEMS DEVELOP IF YOU DON'T

  • HAVE THE SERVICES WHEN CHILDREN

  • ARE YOUNG.

  • THE HARM REDUCTION IS ACTUALLY

  • BEING DEALT WITH WELL BY THE BC

  • LIBERALS BUT WE ALSO NEED A

  • PATHWAY TO RECOVERY AND THAT'S

  • WHY WE ARE INVESTING AND

  • CREATING A SEPARATE MINISTRY OF

  • ADDICTIONS AND MENTAL HEALTH TO

  • PULL THAT OUT OF THE HEALTH CARE

  • BUDGET TO ENSURE THAT REMAINS A

  • PRIORITY FOR US.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • Mr. HORGAN?

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • I WAS AT A TOWN HALL MEETING

  • LAST WEEK IN VICTORIA WHEN A

  • MOTHER AND FATHER ASKED ME WHAT

  • WE WERE GOING TO DO AS A LEGACY

  • FOR THEIR DAUGHTER WHO DIED AS A

  • RESULT OF THE OPIOID CRISIS?

  • 900 OTHER FAMILIES HAD THE SAME

  • QUESTION FOR GOVERNMENTS, AND I

  • BELIEVE THIS IS A CRITICALLY

  • IMPORTANT ISSUE.

  • WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT

  • IN THE BC NDP GOVERNMENT THERE'S

  • A CHAMPION WHO GETS UP EVERY

  • SINGLE DAY AND MAKES SURE THAT

  • MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTIONS

  • ISSUES ARE AT THE FRONT OF THEIR

  • AGENDA.

  • THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO

  • SUCCESS.

  • THIS IS A MENTAL HEALTH AND

  • ADDICTIONS CRISIS HAPPENING IN

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • AND WE NEED TO TAKE IMMEDIATE

  • ACTION.

  • SAFE INJECTION SITES IS

  • CRITICALLY IMPORTANT,

  • ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE

  • FENTANYL IS NOT COMING IN THE

  • COUNTRY, AND WORKING WITH THE

  • FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND USING THE

  • MONEY OFFERED.

  • IT'S SITTING IN AN ENVELOPE

  • SOMEWHERE WAITING FOR ACTION.

  • WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION NOW.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • AND NOW THE QUESTION GOES TO

  • CHRISTY CLARK.

  • >> THANKS TO JACQUES FOR THE

  • QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS

  • SOMETHING THAT MANY, MANY, MANY

  • PEOPLE ACROSS THE PROVINCE ARE

  • DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT.

  • I'M A MOTHER.

  • I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT

  • TOO.

  • AND I -- I DO THINK THAT THERE

  • ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE REALLY

  • ABOVE POLITICS.

  • NOT THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT

  • THEM IN DEBATES.

  • WE SHOULD.

  • BUT WE SHOULDN'T PLAY POLITICS

  • WITH THAT.

  • BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR

  • LIVES.

  • OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE SO FAR,

  • OR ABOUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE SO

  • FAR, HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES TO

  • OPIOIDS.

  • WE ARE LEADING THE CONTINENT IN

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS SPENT

  • ON SUPPORTING PEOPLE, FINDING

  • THEIR WAY TO RECOVERY AND SAVING

  • LIVES.

  • AND I KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE

  • THINK, WELL, WHY YOU HELPING

  • PEOPLE WHO PUT DRUGS IN THEIR

  • BODY; NOBODY USE DRUGS.

  • BUT WE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT

  • EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT DIED IS

  • LOVED BY SOMEBODY AND THEY

  • DESERVE OUR HELP.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms.

  • CLARK.

  • WE WILL CHANGE GEARS SLIGHTLY.

  • OUR NEXT QUESTION IS ONE FROM

  • JACKLIN MURRAY IN DELTA AND THIS

  • IS ONE OF MANY WHO WANTED TO

  • TALK ABOUT POLLING AND TRAFFIC

  • GRIDLOCK AND DRIVING IN THIS

  • PROVINCE.

  • SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHY JUST A

  • FEW CROSSINGS HAVE TOLLS, AND

  • SHE ASKS, IF IT WOULDN'T MAKE

  • SENSE TO HAVE MINIMAL TOLLS ON

  • ALL CROSSINGS.

  • JOHN HORGAN STARTS OFF FOLLOWED

  • BY Ms. CLARK AND THEN

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION

  • AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.

  • THAT'S WHY WE'RE ELIMINATING THE

  • TOLLS ON THE PORTMAN AND THE

  • GOLDEN EARS BRIDGE TO STOP THE

  • CONGESTION MOVING TO THE

  • PATTULLO BRIDGE AND ALEX FRASER.

  • PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO CROSS THE

  • RIVER; THEREFORE THEY ARE GOING

  • TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

  • THE LIBERALS BUILT A FOUR AND A

  • HALF BILLION BRIDGE AND EXPECTED

  • ONE GROUP OF CITIZENS TO PAY FOR

  • IT.

  • WE'RE NOT PAYING TOLLS ON THE

  • SEA-TO-SKY HIGHWAY, ON THE NEW

  • BRIDGE IN KELOWNA.

  • I BELIEVE THAT PUBLIC

  • INFRASTRUCTURE BELONGS TO ALL

  • BRITISH COLUMBIANS.

  • WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

  • HAVE A COHERENT PLAN TO BUILD

  • FOR THE NEXT GENERATION AND WE

  • HAVE A CAPITAL PLAN THAT WILL

  • PUT 96,000 PEOPLE TO WORK,

  • BUILDING NEW TRANSIT, NEW

  • INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE LOWER

  • MAINLAND AND RIGHT ACROSS

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR OUR

  • ECONOMY.

  • IT'S GOOD FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT AS

  • WELL.

  • >> Jennifer: Ms. CLARK.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • BUT I SHOULD ADD, Mr. HORGAN HAS

  • OPPOSED ALMOST EVERY OTHER

  • PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT

  • THAT'S GOTTEN UNDERWAY SINCE HE

  • HAS BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE

  • INCLUDING THE REPLACEMENT FOR

  • THE GEORGE MASSEY BRIDGE, THE

  • PORT MANN BRIDGE, SITE C, AND

  • THE SEA-TO-SKY HIGHWAY.

  • ON THE TOLL PLAN, OUR PARTY IS

  • THE ONLY ONE WITH A FULLY

  • COSTED, BELIEVABLE PLAN TO MAKE

  • SURE THAT WE SUPPORT PEOPLE

  • MAKING FREQUENT COMMUTE, IN

  • MAKING LIFE A BIT MORE

  • AFFORDABLE.

  • UP TO ABOUT $1,100 SAVINGS BY

  • CAPPING TOLLS AT $500.

  • THE NDP PLAN IS TO LOOT THE

  • PROSPERITY FUND, OUR CHILDREN'S

  • INHERITANCE OF $500 MILLION AND

  • THEN AFTER, THAT TAX EVERYBODY

  • IN BRITISH COLUMBIA TO PAY FOR

  • TOLLS DOWN IN THE LOWER

  • MAINLAND.

  • I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT

  • WAY TO GO.

  • >> Jennifer: AND Mr. WEAVER,

  • YOUR RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION

  • FROM OUR VIEWER.

  • >> YES.

  • THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

  • YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE

  • PROBLEM WITH POLITICS IN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA.

  • ON THE ONE HAND, JUST BEFORE AN

  • ELECTION, YOU HAVE THE NDP

  • TRYING TO BUY VOTES.

  • ON THE OTHER HAND YOU HAVE THE

  • BC LIBERALS TRYING TO DO THE

  • SAME THING.

  • WE RECOGNIZE THOSE TOLLS WERE

  • PUT IN PLACE FOR A REASON.

  • GOOD PUBLIC POLICY ENSURES THAT

  • YOU ACTUALLY USE YOUR -- THE

  • TOOLS YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY

  • FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU ARE

  • DEVELOPING, TO ACTUALLY ENSURE

  • THAT -- WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE

  • PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF THE CARS.

  • THAT'S WHY THE GREEN APPROACH IS

  • TO INVEST HEAVILY IN PUBLIC

  • TRANSPORTATION.

  • WE WILL BE MEETING THE MAYORS'

  • TEN-YEAR PLAN BECAUSE THAT IS

  • THE REAL ISSUE.

  • PEOPLE CANNOT GET OUT OF THE

  • CARS IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE

  • OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF THE

  • CARS.

  • THAT IS THE BC GREEN APPROACH.

  • IT'S NOT CYNICAL VOTE BUYING OR

  • VOTE GETTING.

  • IT'S TO ACTUALLY DO WHAT'S IN

  • THE BEST INTEREST OF PUBLIC

  • THROUGH GOOD PUBLIC POLICY.

  • >> Jennifer: WE HAVE ANOTHER

  • QUESTION FROM SOMEONE WHO WROTE

  • IN TO US.

  • PATRICIA BEATON OF NORTH

  • VANCOUVER WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IF

  • YOUR PARTY IN PARTICULAR FORMS

  • THE NEXT GOVERNMENT, WHAT WILL

  • YOU DO TO SUPPORT YOUNG PEOPLE

  • WHO ARE AGING OUT OF FOSTER

  • CARE?

  • CHRISTY CLARK STARTS THIS ONE

  • FOLLOWED BY Mr. WEAVER AND THEN

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • >> THANKS FOR THE QUESTION,

  • PATRICIA.

  • IT'S -- IT'S A REAL ISSUE IN

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA FOR YOUNG

  • PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPENT THEIR TIME

  • IN GOVERNMENT CARE, TRYING TO

  • FIND THEIR WAY AFTER THEY LEAVE

  • GOVERNMENT CARE.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY --

  • THE FACT IS GOVERNMENT DOESN'T

  • MAKE THE BEST PARENT.

  • WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO

  • EVERYTHING WE CAN -- AND WE

  • ARE -- TO MAKE SURE THAT FEWER

  • CHILDREN FIND THEIR WAY INTO

  • GOVERNMENT CARE BY SUPPORTING

  • FAMILIES IN DOING A BETTER JOB.

  • THAT'S HOW MY MOTHER SPENT MOST

  • OF HER VOLUNTEER HOURS AS I WAS

  • GROWING UP.

  • IF WE CAN'T AND WE RECOGNIZE WE

  • CAN'T DO THAT FOR EVERYONE, WE

  • NEED TO SUPPORT CHILDREN WHO ARE

  • IN CARE, ESPECIALLY AS THEY ARE

  • AGING OUT.

  • WE HAVE EXTENDED THE AMOUNT OF

  • TIME OVER WHICH WE CAN CONTINUE

  • TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN WHO ARE

  • IN CARE AFTER THEY AGE OUT, AND

  • MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING

  • THEM ALONG THE WAY IN FINDING

  • THEIR PATH WHICH IS SOMETIMES A

  • REALLY DIFFICULT ONE.

  • >> Jennifer: WE NEED TO STOP

  • YOU THERE IN THE INTEREST OF

  • TIME, Ms. CLARK, AND TO YOU

  • Mr. WEAVER, YOUR RESPONSE.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

  • Ms. CLARK, YOUR GOVERNMENT HAS

  • NO CREDIBILITY ON PUTTING

  • FAMILIES FIRST OR DEALING WITH

  • CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE.

  • FRANKLY IT'S SHOCKING WAS BEEN

  • TRANSPIRING OVER THE LAST FEW

  • YEARS.

  • THE BC GREENS HAVE A VERY CLEAR

  • PLAN.

  • WE RECOGNIZE THAT CHILDREN BORN

  • INTO SITUATIONS THAT THEY THIS

  • HAD NO CONTROL WITH NEED A

  • LITTLE HELPING HAND TO GET

  • THROUGH.

  • WE INTRODUCED THE CONCEPT OF

  • BASIC INCOME TO ENSURE THAT ALL

  • CHILDREN AGING OUT OF FOSTER

  • CARE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO BASIC

  • INCOME, WHICH WILL ENSURE THAT

  • THEY GET OFF TO A GOOD START.

  • IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT IN OUR

  • YOUTH OF TODAY TO ENSURE THAT

  • WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH PROBLEMS

  • TOMORROW.

  • THAT'S WHY OUR WHOLE APPROACH IS

  • TO ACTUALLY INVEST IN

  • PREVENTION, GIVE PEOPLE A

  • FIGHTING CHANCE SO THAT WE'RE

  • NOT DEALING WITH PROBLEMS IN A

  • REACTIVE WAY WHICH BOTH THESE

  • OTHER PARTIES WILL DO.

  • >> Jennifer: Mr. HORGAN, YOU

  • HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND

  • TO THE QUESTION FROM PATRICIA.

  • >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK

  • YOU FOR THE QUESTION, PATRICIA.

  • ALEX GERVAIS AND CARLY FRASER

  • TOOK THEIR OWN LIVES BECAUSE

  • THEY WERE FEARFUL OF WHAT THEIR

  • LIVE WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY

  • AGED OUT OF CARE.

  • I THINK THAT'S THE CRITICAL

  • ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON

  • HERE.

  • YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THE

  • SUPPORTS THEY NEED WHEN THE

  • STATE IS RESPONSIBLE -- WHEN THE

  • STATE IS THE PARENT, WE HAVE A

  • FUNDAMENTAL OBLIGATION, ALL OF

  • US, TO MAKE SURE THOSE CHILDREN

  • ARE GETTING THE BEST CARE

  • POSSIBLE, AND BRIDGED INTO THEIR

  • ADULTHOOD IF REQUIRED.

  • THE CHILDREN'S REPRESENTATIVE,

  • MARCH ELLE TURPEL-LAFOND LAV HAS

  • MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT

  • EXTENDING THE TIME KIDS HAVE

  • SUPPORTS AND REALIZE THEIR FULL

  • POTENTIAL.

  • THE LIBERALS HAVE IGNORED THOSE.

  • WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • NEXT QUESTION FROM SHARON HALES

  • IN RICHMOND.

  • SHE WRITES, "THE NEW YORK TIMES"

  • BRANDED BC THE WILD WEST OF

  • POLITICAL DONATIONS.

  • WHAT WILL YOU DO TO ADDRESS THE

  • PERCEPTION THAT FAVOURS CAN BE

  • BOUGHT BY DONATIONS?

  • >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

  • FROM OUR PARTY, I THINK WE'RE

  • THE ONLY ONES WITH CLEAN HANDS

  • ON THIS.

  • WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOU CANNOT

  • TALK ABOUT BEING PRINCIPLED, YOU

  • CAN'T TALK -- TAKE THE HIGH ROAD

  • AND ARGUE AGAINST UNION AND

  • CORPORATE DONATIONS WHILE YOU

  • CONTINUE TO DO IT YOURSELF.

  • I HAVE TURNED DOWN I DON'T KNOW

  • HOW MANY CORPORATE DONATIONS AND

  • THE REASON WHY WE HAVE DONE THIS

  • IS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S

  • WRONG.

  • THE BC NDP WILL CRITICIZE THE

  • LIBERALS FOR DOING THIS AND

  • THEY'LL STILL HAVE THE SAME

  • $5,000 A PLATE PER-MEAL PAY FOR

  • ACCESS EVENTS AND ACCEPT 1.8

  • MILLION FROM THE -- $1.7 MILLION

  • FROM THE UNITED STEELWORKERS AND

  • STAFF BEING PAID BY THEM TO RUN

  • THE CAMPAIGN.

  • WHO IS SETTING THE STAGE?

  • THE KEY DECISIONS IN THE

  • CAMPAIGN ARE BEING MADE BY THE

  • STEELWORKERS WHO ARE DROPPED

  • INTO THE -- THIS IS WRONG.

  • AND BC GREENS RECOGNIZE THE

  • PRINCIPLED APPROACH IS DOING

  • SOMETHING ABOUT IT OURSELVES.

  • LEADERS LEAD.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

  • SIX TIMES WE HAVE TABLED

  • LEGISLATION IN OUR LEGISLATURE

  • TO BAN BIG MONEY IN POLITICS.

  • STOP UNION DONATIONS.

  • STOP CORPORATE DONATIONS.

  • CAP INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS AND THE

  • BC LIBERALS SAID NO.

  • THEY SAID NO BECAUSE THEY LIKE

  • IT THIS WAY.

  • Ms. CLARK SAID NO BECAUSE SHE

  • HAS HAD A $300,000 SALARY TOP-UP

  • OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS AS SHE

  • HAS BEEN THE LEADER OF THE BC

  • LIBERAL PARTY.

  • THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

  • IF YOU ARE SITTING DOWN IN THE

  • HOME OF THE FORMER CEO OF WARE

  • HOUSER, THE SAME COMPANY THAT

  • BROUGHT A PETITION AGAINST

  • FOREST WORKERS IN BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA, PEOPLE RIGHTLY SHOULD

  • BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

  • WHEN A MINISTER OF MINES SITS

  • DOWN WITH MINE CORPORATIONS

  • INVITING LAWS -- VIOLATING LAWS,

  • YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT.

  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

  • >> Jennifer: YOUR RESPONSE TO

  • SHARON HALES?

  • >> THANK YOU, SHARON.

  • I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.

  • LISTENING TO JOHN HORGAN, YOU

  • MIGHT NOT REALIZE THAT HE HAS

  • TAKEN THE BIGGEST POLITICAL

  • DONATION IN BC HISTORY.

  • THREE OF HIS CAMPAIGN STAFF ARE

  • BEING PAID BY A UNION OUT OF

  • PITTSBURGH THAT IS FIGHTING WITH

  • DONALD TRUMP TO KILL FORESTRY

  • JOBS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • HE HAS TAKEN OVER $100,000 FROM

  • THE BCG E.U. AND NOW HE WANTS TO

  • PUT MARIJUANA IN OUR LIQUOR

  • STORES DESPITE THE FACT THAT NO

  • ONE IN NORTH AMERICA IS DOING

  • THAT.

  • THE SYSTEM NEEDS TO CHANGE SO WE

  • WILL APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT

  • PANEL -- NOT POLITICAL -- WHO

  • WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT

  • COULD BE UNANIMOUSLY ENDORSED BY

  • THE LEGISLATURE TO CHANGE THE

  • WAY FUNDRAISING IS DONE IN

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU, Ms.

  • CLARK.

  • LET'S MOVE TO A QUESTION FROM

  • WILLIE OLSEN FROM LANGLEY,

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • HE HAS A QUESTION ABOUT MEDICAL

  • WAIT LISTS AND HE SAYS, I SPEND

  • $14,000 ON KNEE OPERATIONS TO

  • WAIT FOR AN MRI AND SURGERY IN

  • THE PUBLIC SYSTEM WOULD HAVE

  • BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS.

  • I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AS WELL

  • AS WASTE IN THE SYSTEM.

  • WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT

  • IT?

  • THIS QUESTION GOES FIRST TO

  • Mr. HORGAN, THEN Ms. CLARK AND

  • Mr. WEAVER FOR 45 SECONDS EACH.

  • >> BC LIBERALS IGNORING

  • CHALLENGES LIKE WAIT TIMES IN

  • OUR EMERGENCY ROOMS, WAIT TIMES

  • FOR SURGERIES IS A CRITICAL

  • PROBLEM IN THIS ELECTION AND

  • GOING FORWARD.

  • WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE

  • PROVIDING SERVICES FOR PEOPLE

  • THAT THEY NEED.

  • THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING TO

  • PUT IN PLACE URGENT CARE CENTRES

  • SO THAT WE CAN STOP THE CLOGGING

  • IN EMERGENCY ROOMS AND MAKE SURE

  • PEOPLE ARE GETTING TO WARDS AND

  • SURGERIES THAT THEY NEED.

  • I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SOLUTION.

  • BRING ON MORE HEALTH CARE

  • PROFESSIONALS TO MEET THE NEEDS

  • OF INDIVIDUAL PATIENTS.

  • NURSE PRACTITIONERS, THERAPISTS,

  • DIETITIANS.

  • EVERYONE IN THE CONTINUUM OF

  • CARE IN ONE FACILITY SO DOCTORS

  • CAN FOCUS ON SURGERIES THEY

  • NEED.

  • WE NEED TO INCREASE SURGERY

  • TIMES.

  • MEANS MORE OPERATING HOURS AND

  • INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC HEALTH

  • CARE.

  • THE BC LIBERALS ARE PREPARED TO

  • IGNORE THAT.

  • I'M NOT.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU.

  • Ms. CLARK?

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • WELL, Mr. HORGAN DOESN'T TELL

  • YOU THAT WHEN HIS GUYS WERE LAST

  • IN GOVERNMENT, THEY DIDN'T ADD A

  • SINGLE NEW SPACE FOR DOCTORS TO

  • BE TRAINED.

  • THEY CUT 1600 FULL-TIME NURSES

  • AND WORST OF ALL, THEY CUT A

  • THIRD OF THE BEDS IN BC

  • HOSPITALS AND THE REASON THEY

  • DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE RAN OUT

  • OF MONEY.

  • THEY WERE SPENDING SO MUCH OF

  • YOUR MONEY THAT THEY RAN OUT AND

  • THEY HAD TO CUT HEALTH CARE.

  • THAT IS THE WRONG WAY TO LOOK

  • AFTER OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

  • WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST HEALTH

  • OUTCOMES IN CANADA.

  • UNDER THE NDP, THERE WAS -- THE

  • WAIT LIST WENT UP BY 110%.

  • WE ARE WORKING TO MAKE SURE WE

  • ARE INVESTING IN HEALTH CARE AND

  • WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE

  • A STRONG ECONOMY, BECAUSE WE'RE

  • INDICATING JOBS ACROSS THE

  • PROVINCE THAT GIVES US THE MEANS

  • TO BUILD HOSPITALS, TO TRAIN

  • DOCTORS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE

  • LOOKING AFTER PEOPLE.

  • >> Jennifer: AND WE WILL LEAVE

  • IT AT THAT.

  • BUT WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION

  • THAT WE HEARD MORE THAN ONCE.

  • OH, I'M SORRY, Mr. WEAVER,

  • PARDON ME, GO AHEAD.

  • >> YEAH.

  • THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

  • IT'S A COMPLEX QUESTION AND 45

  • SECONDS IS DIFFICULT TO DEAL

  • WITH IT.

  • I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE

  • PLATFORM.

  • THROWING MORE MONEY AT THE

  • SYSTEM IN A TOP-DOWN MANNER IS

  • NOT ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THE

  • ISSUES IN HEALTH CARE.

  • OUR APPROACH IS MORE

  • COMMUNITY-BASED, TO ACTUALLY

  • BUILD FROM THE BOTTOM UP,

  • COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTRES,

  • ONE-STOP SHOPPING CENTRES, WHICH

  • WILL PULL THE -- WILL PULL A LOT

  • OF THE PRESSURES THAT ARE IN OUR

  • ACUTE FACILITIES OUT OF THE

  • HOSPITALS, TO ENSURE THAT

  • THERE'S MORE ROOM THERE.

  • WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO

  • SEPARATE CHRONIC AND ACUTE

  • HEALTH CARE.

  • SO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TAKE

  • MEASURES TO ENSURE THAT THE

  • CHRONIC CARE BEING DONE IN THE

  • HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY

  • TAKEN OUT OF THE HOSPITALS AND

  • INTO THE RIGHT PLACE.

  • AND ALSO WE HAVE MEASURES TO

  • ACTUALLY ENSURE THAT PEOPLE CAN

  • STAY IN HOMES.

  • SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. WEAVER.

  • WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE LEADERS

  • TO KEEP THE NEXT QUESTION TO 30

  • SECONDS AS WE ARE GETTING INTO A

  • BIT OF A TIME CRUNCH.

  • THIS QUESTION FROM KELOWNA:

  • WILL YOU CHANGE FAMILY DAY SO IT

  • ALIGNS WITH THE OTHER PROVINCES.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • >> THANK YOU,.

  • I WAS PROUD TO INTRODUCE FAMILY

  • DAY.

  • I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS

  • A DAY FOR FAMILIES TO BE

  • TOGETHER AND THE REASON WE CHOSE

  • THE DAY THAT WE DID IS WE DID --

  • WELL, WE DID A PUBLIC PROCESS.

  • WE ASKED PEOPLE TO VOTE ONLINE,

  • AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE

  • VOTED IN FAVOUR OF THE DAY THAT

  • WE HAVE.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE

  • REASONS THAT DAY IS SO GREAT IS

  • IT'S DIFFERENT IN OTHER

  • PROVINCES.

  • SO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN YOU GO TO

  • THE SKI HILL, BIG WHITE IN

  • KELOWNA, YOU ARE NOT IN HUGE

  • LINEUP WITH A BUNCH OF FOLKS

  • FROM AROUND THE REST OF THE

  • COUNTRY.

  • >> Jennifer: Mr. WEAVER, YOU

  • HAVE 30 SECONDS.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT

  • BECAUSE THE REAL REASON WE HAVE

  • FAMILY DAY ON A DIFFERENT DAY IS

  • BECAUSE THE SKI INDUSTRY

  • LOBBYISTS WANT TO YOUR

  • GOVERNMENT AND WANTED IT TO BE

  • SO.

  • THE REST OF CANADA AND THE U.S.

  • IS WORKING ON OUR FAMILY DAY, SO

  • THEY ARE TAKING OFF THE -- ON

  • THEIR FAMILY DAY, OUR PEOPLE

  • HAVE TO GO TO WORK AND THERE'S

  • NOTHING TO DO.

  • IT'S OUTRAGEOUS.

  • SO NOT ONLY DO I AGREE WITH

  • THAT; I INTRODUCED A PRIVATE

  • MEMBER'S BILL THIS PAST SESSION

  • TO DO PRECISELY THAT.

  • BRING FAMILY ACROSS CANADA TO BE

  • THE SAME

  • >> Jennifer: Mr. HORGAN, 30

  • SECONDS.

  • >> ABSOLUTELY.

  • AGAIN, Ms. CLARK HAD A BOGUS

  • CONSULTATION AND SAID WE'RE

  • GOING TO DO IT ON THAT DAY.

  • I AGREE WITH Mr. WEAVER AND THE

  • VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ACROSS

  • THE COUNTRY, WE SHOULD HAVE

  • FAMILY DAY ON THE SAME DAY SO

  • THAT WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE, ALL

  • TAKE SOME TIME OFF, SOME

  • PRECIOUS TIME AND SPEND IT WITH

  • OUR FAMILY.

  • I KNOW THAT I WOULD RATHER BE

  • SPENDING TIME WITH MY KIDS ON

  • FAMILY DAY AND THEY ARE IN

  • DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD.

  • LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE LIKE

  • EVERYBODY ELSE.

  • I THINK IT'S COMMON SENSE AND I

  • DON'T KNOW WHY THE LIBERALS

  • DON'T GET THAT.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU VERY

  • MUCH, Mr. HORGAN AND THAT'S ALL

  • THE TIME WE HAVE FOR QUESTIONS

  • FROM THE PEOPLE OF BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA.

  • CLOSING REMARKS FROM EACH LEADER

  • NOW AND EACH LEADER WILL HAVE

  • ONE AND A HALF MINUTES.

  • LIBERAL LEADER CHRISTY CLARK IS

  • FIRST OFF.

  • Ms. CLARK.

  • >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

  • AND THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN

  • TONIGHT ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE OF

  • YOU WHO STUCK WITH US TO THE

  • END.

  • I KNOW YOU WORK HARD FOR YOUR

  • FAMILY AND YOU CONTRIBUTE SO

  • MUCH TO BC.

  • AND THAT IS WHY I AM SO

  • DETERMINED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

  • PROTECT JOBS AND KEEP BC ON

  • TRACK.

  • YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND.

  • THAT'S A BIGGER ECONOMY, NOT A

  • BIGGER GOVERNMENT.

  • IT'S LOWER TAXES, NOT SPENDING

  • SPREES.

  • IT'S MAKING SURE WE'RE INVESTING

  • IN HOSPITALS AND SCHOOLS AND

  • INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT PAYING

  • MASSIVE INTEREST PAYMENTS TO

  • BANKS IN THE UNITED STATES AND

  • IN LONDON.

  • OUR PLAN HELPS YOU CREATE AND

  • LIVE THE LIFE THAT YOU WANT.

  • IT HELPS YOU GET A GREAT PAYING

  • JOB.

  • IT HELPS YOU OWN YOUR OWN HOME,

  • AND MOST OF ALL, IT HELPS YOU

  • KEEP MORE OF YOUR HARD-EARNED

  • MONEY IN YOUR POCKET.

  • WITH THE ELECTION OF PRESIDENT

  • TRUMP IN THE UNITED STATES, BC

  • IS FACING PROTECTIONISM.

  • THEY HAVE ALREADY GONE AFTER

  • ALUMINUM, FORESTRY AND

  • AGRICULTURE.

  • WHAT'S NEXT?

  • TECH?

  • FINANCIAL SECTOR?

  • THE QUESTION IN THIS ELECTION IS

  • WHO IS BEST TO LEAD THAT FIGHT

  • TO PROTECT, PRESERVE AND CREATE

  • BC JOBS?

  • NEITHER THE NDP OR THE GREENS

  • CAN FIGHT FOR JOBS.

  • BOTH OF THESE MEN HAVE SPENT

  • MOST OF THEIR POLITICAL CAREERS

  • TRYING TO FIGHT AGAINST JOBS IN

  • BC.

  • JOHN HORGAN IS COMPROMISED AND

  • Dr. WEAVER JUST ISN'T THAT

  • INTERESTED.

  • ONLY TODAY'S BC LIBERALS CAN

  • LEAD THAT FIGHT AND I'M ASKING

  • FOR YOUR VOTE SO THAT I CAN HAVE

  • A STRONG MANDATE TO CONTINUE THE

  • FIGHT TO -- TO SUPPORT BC JOBS,

  • BUILD A STRONG FUTURE AND A

  • BRIGHT FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS AND

  • GRANDKIDS.

  • THANKS FOR TUNING IN.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU VERY

  • MUCH, Ms. CLARK.

  • Mr. WEAVER OF THE BC GREENS, YOU

  • ARE UP.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • THAT WAS A REMARKABLE

  • REVISIONIST CLOSING REMARKS.

  • IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE.

  • NOT ONLY A CHANGE IN GOVERNMENT,

  • BUT ALSO A CHANGE IN THE VOICES

  • THAT REPRESENT YOU, THE PEOPLE

  • OF BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • THE BC LIBERALS HAVE FAILED TO

  • DELIVER ON THEIR PROMISES AND

  • THEY ARE OUT OF TOUCH SIMPLY OUT

  • OF TOUCH WITH THE INCREASING

  • INCERTAINTY AND GROWING ANXIETY

  • THAT MANY OF YOU ARE FACING.

  • AFTER 16 YEARS THE BEST THE BC

  • NDP CAN OFFER IS BEING A LITTLE

  • BIT BETTER THAN THE BC LIBERALS.

  • THEY HAVE REPEATEDLY FAILED TO

  • INSPIRE US WITH A CREATIVE

  • VISION FOR OUR FUTURE.

  • YOU KNOW, THE BC GREENS HAVE A

  • PLAN TO POSITION BRITISH

  • COLUMBIA AS A LEADER IN THE NEW

  • AND EMERGING ECONOMY.

  • OUR PLAN PUTS PEOPLE, NOT VESTED

  • CORPORATE OR UNION INTERESTS,

  • FIRST AND FOREMOST IN

  • DECISION-MAKING, AND IT WILL

  • BRING PROSPERITY TO ALL BRITISH

  • COLUMBIANS, NOT JUST THE VERY

  • WEALTHY.

  • THE BC GREENS RECOGNIZE THAT

  • LEADERSHIP MEANS FINDING THE

  • OPPORTUNITY IN EVERY CHALLENGE.

  • WE RECOGNIZE THAT LEADERSHIP

  • MEANS NO LONGER ACCEPTING UNION

  • AND CORPORATE DONATIONS WHILE

  • THE BC NDP AND THE BC LIBERALS

  • SQUABBLING OVER WHO IS THE LEAST

  • BOUGHT OFF.

  • YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY NEITHER

  • OF THEM CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A

  • MAJORITY GOVERNMENT, AND THAT IS

  • WHY I HOPE TONIGHT YOU WILL HAVE

  • SEEN THAT YOU WILL AGREE WITH

  • ME, THAT IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE,

  • A CHANGE THAT YOU CAN COUNT ON.

  • THANK YOU.

  • >> Jennifer: AND NOW TO

  • Mr. HORGAN FOR HIS CLOSING

  • REMARKS.

  • >> THANK YOU, JENNIFER, AND

  • THANK YOU TO THE VIEWERS AT HOME

  • FOR STICKING WITH US FOR THE

  • FULL 90 MINUTES.

  • IT'S BEEN A FEISTY DEBATE, A

  • FEISTY DISCUSSION, BUT I BELIEVE

  • IT'S MADE VERY CLEAR TO YOU THE

  • CHOICES YOU HAVE TO MAKE OVER

  • THE NEXT 13 DAYS.

  • DO YOU WANT FOUR MORE YEARS OF

  • INCREASED COSTS, HIGHER MSP

  • PREMIUMS, HIGHER HYDRO RATES,

  • 42% INCREASES IN YOUR ICBC

  • COSTS, BUT NOT REALLY A BREAK ON

  • TOLLS.

  • YOU HAVE TO ELECT THE LIBERALS

  • TO SEE WHAT THEY DO.

  • WE HAVE MADE COMMITMENTS TO MAKE

  • PEOPLE THE CENTRE OF OUR

  • POLITICS.

  • WE HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT TO

  • MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE IN

  • BRITISH COLUMBIA.

  • WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT TO

  • MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES YOU

  • COUNT ON ARE THERE FOR YOU WHEN

  • YOU NEED IT.

  • PUBLIC EDUCATION, PUBLIC HEALTH

  • CARE, SENIORS' CARE, AND $10 A

  • DAY CHILDCARE, A PROGRAM THAT

  • WILL MAKE SURE THAT WOMEN CAN

  • GET BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE.

  • IT'S GOOD FOR KIDS.

  • IT'S GOOD FOR WOMEN.

  • IT'S GOOD FOR FAMILIES.

  • AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY.

  • WE HAVE AN EXCITING PLAN FOR A

  • BETTER BC.

  • WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON

  • THAT AND WE HAVE LAID IT OUT

  • FULLY COSTED, THREE-YEAR PLAN

  • THAT WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF YOUR

  • FAMILY AND YOUR COMMUNITY.

  • I THINK IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE.

  • I THINK IT'S TIME THAT THE BC

  • LIBERALS NEGLECT ENDS.

  • HELP IS ON THE WAY.

  • ON MAY 9TH, I ASK YOU, I URGE

  • YOU, I APPEAL TO YOU, IF YOU

  • WANT CHANGE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA,

  • IF YOU WANT TO GET THE WEALTHY

  • AND THE WELL-CONNECTED OFF THE

  • TRAIN, VOTE BC NDP.

  • THANK YOU VERY MUCHLT.

  • -- VERY MUCH.

  • >> Jennifer: THANK YOU,

  • Mr. HORGAN.

  • WELL, THAT BRINGS US TO THE END

  • OF THIS DEBATE.

  • THANK YOU.

  • >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • >> Jennifer: WE HAVE COVERED A

  • NUMBER OF TOPICS THAT PEOPLE IN

  • THIS PROVINCE ARE CONCERNED

  • ABOUT, EVERYTHING FROM HOUSING

  • AFFORDABILITY TO THE ECONOMY TO

  • THE STATE OF LEADERSHIP.

  • WE HAVE HEARD FROM MORE THAN A

  • THOUSAND BRITISH COLUMBIANS WITH

  • QUESTIONS RANGING FROM THE

  • OPIOID CRISIS TO THE FAMILY DAY

  • HOLIDAY AND ON BEHALF OF THE

  • BROADCAST CONSORTIUM, I WANT TO

  • THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK

  • THE TIME TO E-MAIL US.

  • AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE

  • THREE LEADERS WHO ARE HERE

  • TONIGHT.

  • HOPEFULLY IT HAS BEEN

  • ENLIGHTENING FOR VIEWERS AND

  • LISTENERS ALL ACROSS THE

  • PROVINCE.

  • DON'T FORGET TO VOTE ON MAY 9TH.

  • I'M JENNIFER BURKE.

  • THANKS FOR SPENDING THE LAST 90

  • MINUTES WITH US.

  • HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

  • [♪♪♪]

  • [♪♪♪]

EVENING'S DEBATE.

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