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>> LEHR: HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A GLOBAL
AND NATIONAL CONCERN, AND YES, IT IS ALSO
A PROBLEM RIGHT HERE IN GREATER CINCINNATI.
HELLO, I'M KATHY LEHR AND ON THIS EDITION OF FOCUS
A CONVERSATION ABOUT EFFORTS TO END SLAVERY RIGHT HERE,
RIGHT NOW.
IN 2012, THE SALVATION ARMY PARTNERED WITH END SLAVERY
CINCINNATI TO EXPAND THE RESOURCES AND SERVICES
AVAILABLE LOCALLY TO ADDRESS AND COMBAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING
IN OUR COMMUNITY.
HOW BIG IS THE PROBLEM LOCALLY?
WHO IS AT RISK?
AND HOW ARE THE SLAVERY RINGS BROKEN UP?
OUR GUESTS TODAY TO EXPLORE THE TOPIC: ERIN MEYER,
ANTI-HUMAN TRAFFICKING PROGRAM COORDINATOR
AT THE SALVATION ARMY AND COLLISION MANAGER OF END
SLAVERY CINCINNATI; AND LUKE BLOCHER, DIRECTOR
OF NATIONAL STRATEGIC INITIATIVES NATIONAL
UNDERGROUND RAILROAD FREEDOM CENTER.
THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, KATHY.
>> LEHR: WHAT EXACTLY IS HUMAN TRAFFICKING?
HOW DO YOU DEFINE IT?
>> WELL, IT CAN MOST SIMPLY BE DESCRIBED AS MODERN DAY
SLAVERY.
YOU KNOW, WE THINK OF HISTORIC SLAVERY,
INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN'T, WHO AREN'T ABLE TO LEAVE A TYPE
OF WORK, THEY ARE BEING FORCED TO WORK, THEY ARE
BEING EXPLOITED.
IT IS THE SAME TYPE OF CONCEPT WHEN WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT WHAT SLAVERY LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
SOME OF IT LOOKS EVEN MORE TO WHAT THE HISTORIC SLAVERY
LOOKED LIKE THAN OTHER TYPES.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE STILL HAVE DOMESTIC SERVITUDE HERE
IN CINCINNATI, WHERE INDIVIDUALS ARE FORCED
TO WORK IN HOMES, COOKING, CLEANING, TAKING CARE
OF KIDS, AND ARE NOT ABLE TO LEAVE AND ARE NOT BEING
PAID FOR THEIR SERVICES.
WE ALSO HAVE TRAFFICKING SUCH AS SEX TRAFFICKING HERE
IN CINCINNATI, WHETHER THAT'S MASSAGE PARLORS,
BROTHELS, OR PIMP-CONTROLLED PROSTITUTION ESCORT SERVICES
YOU CAN FIND ONLINE.
IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S HERE AND WE SEE IT IN A VARIETY
OF DIFFERENT FORMS.
GENERALLY IT'S THE EXPLOITATION OF MEN,
WOMEN AND CHILDREN FOR EITHER LABOR
OR COMMERCIAL SEX.
>> LEHR: I THINK MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE SURPRISED TO KNOW
THAT IT IS GOING ON RIGHT HERE AT HOME.
YOU THINK ABOUT IT HAPPENING SOMEPLACE ELSE, SOME OTHER
TIME.
WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THIS ON OUR COMMUNITY?
HOW BIG OF A PROBLEM IS IT LOCALLY?
>> I MEAN IT IMPACTS EVERYONE WHETHER OR NOT
WE WANT TO SEE IT OR ARE ABLE TO SEE IT.
IT DOES IMPACT US ALL.
AND IN TERMS OF THE PREVALENCE, THERE REALLY
AREN'T A LOT OF STUDIES OUT THERE BUT WE DO KNOW THAT
WE'RE INCREASINGLY SEEING REPORTS OF IT, WE'RE
INCREASINGLY GETTING HOTLINE CALLS TO OUR 24 HOUR HOTLINE
REPORTING THE ISSUE.
THAT IS MAINLY BECAUSE THERE'S JUST
A BROADER AWARENESS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, NOT
NECESSARILY THAT ALL OF THE SUDDEN
WE'VE GOT THIS GREAT INFLUX OF WHAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING
OF OUR PREVALENCE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING HERE
IN THE GREATER CINCINNATI AREA, BUT I MEAN IT'S
SOMETHING WE SEE EVERYWHERE.
IT'S -- AT NIGHT IN PIMP-CONTROL PROSTITUTION
BUT IT'S ONLINE ON CRAIG'S LIST AND ON BACK PAGE ESCORT
ADS.
IT'S IN RESTAURANTS, IN HOTELS EITHER
THROUGH COMMERCIAL SEXUAL EXPLOITATION HOTELS,
OR THE HOTEL STAFF THAT ARE WORKING THERE WHO ARE BEING
FORCED TO WORK THERE AND ARE NOT BEING PAID AND ARE NOT
BEING ABLE TO LEAVE OR OTHERWISE BEING
CONTROLLED.
IT CAN BE SEEN AGAIN LIKE I SAID DOMESTIC SERVITUDE,
IN OUR FACTORIES, ON OUR FARMS.
JUST BECAUSE WE THINK OF CINCINNATI AS A CITY EVEN
DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING TRAFFICKING IN BUTLER
COUNTY OR IN WARREN COUNTY OR OUT THE MORE RURAL AREAS
IN THE GREATER CINCINNATI AREA.
WE SEE IT ACROSS THE GLOBE, WE SEE IT ACROSS THE U.S.,
WE SEE IT ACROSS THE GREATER CINCINNATI AREA REGION JUST
IN DIFFERENT FORMS DEPENDING ON THE COMMUNITY.
BUT IT IS IN MANY INDUSTRIES.
>> I THINK ONE OF THE POINTS THAT ERIN MADE IS REALLY
CRITICAL WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE OUR EXHIBIT
AT THE FREEDOM CENTER IS CALLED INVISIBLE SLAVERY
TODAY BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THAT OUR SORT OF SENSE
OF THE NUMBERS HASN'T CAUGHT UP TO THE REALITY
OF THE SITUATION BECAUSE THE AWARENESS IS
SO LOW RELATIVELY SPEAKING.
AND THE REASON THAT ERIN IS FIELDING SO MANY MORE
HOTLINE CALLS AND THE REASON THERE'S SO MUCH MORE
REPORTING HAPPENING ISN'T I WOULD --E I FEEL PRETTY
CONFIDENT SAYING, BELIEVING THAT IT IS NOT BECAUSE THIS
JUST STARTED, THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST STARTING TO FIGURE
OUT YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE AND EXPLOIT THEM AND NOT PAY
THEM.
IT IS THAT WE ARE JUST FIGURING OUT HOW TO SEE IT.
AND I SAY THAT WE IN SORT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AND THE WAY THE BALANCE REALLY STARTS TO TIP IN THIS
ISSUE IS WHEN PEOPLE EVERY DAY ARE SORT OF HAVE THIS
TOP OF MIND.
SO WHEN THEY SEE PEOPLE IN A SITUATION
IN A RESTAURANT AND SOMETHING LOOKS FISHY
OR THEY SEE SOMEONE IN A MASSAGE PARLOR
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SOMETHING DOESN'T SEEM
RIGHT, THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE IN CONTROL OF THEMSELVES.
INSTEAD OF JUST REMARKING THAT THAT SEEMS WEIRD
AND WALKING AWAY, YOU SAY, "I'M GOING TO CALL THIS
INTO THIS HOTLINE."
AND THAT'S HOW ALL OF THE SUDDEN THERE STARTS
TO BE CONSEQUENCES TO DOING THIS.
FOR SOME LONG THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY INCREDIBLY
PROFITABLE AND SAFE CRIME BECAUSE THERE WAS SO LITTLE
AWARENESS THAT IT WAS HAPPENING.
YOU COULD JUST DO IT AND GET AWAY WITH IT.
AND THE TIDE IS STARTING TO TURN THERE, BUT IT'S
A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE WITH RAISING THE GENERAL
PUBLIC'S LEVEL OF AWARENESS OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE
AND WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU HAVE SOME SUSPICIONS
ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE BOTH INVOLVED
IN, BUT ALSO LOTS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE
INVOLVED IN.
>> LEHR: I WAS GOING TO SAY, TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SALVATION ARMY
AND WORKING TOWARD BANISHING HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
>> WELL, I'LL JUST SAY FROM THE FREEDOM CENTER
PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE A VERY CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH ERIN,
WITH END SLAVERY CINCINNATI, AND THE SALVATION ARMY,
AROUND THIS IDEA OF PUBLIC AWARENESS.
WE'VE PARTNERED THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE CALENDAR YEAR
TO HAVE A MONTHLY SERIES EVERY THIRD THURSDAY
AT THE FREEDOM CENTER AT 6 P.M.
WE HAVE AN EVENT WHICH IS MEANT TO RAISE PUBLIC
AWARENESS AROUND THIS, THERE WILL BE A FILM SHOWING
OR A LECTURER OR A PANEL DISCUSSION COVERING
THE DIFFERENT VARIETY OF FORMS THIS TAKES THAT
ERIN MENTIONED.
TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE HERE IN CINCINNATI,
BUT ALSO TALKING ABOUT HOW IT LOOKS AROUND THE WORLD.
AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE
THIS GET -- BUBBLE TO THE SURFACE OF PEOPLE'S
AWARENESS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS COMMUNITY
SO THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT ISN'T LIKE YOU MENTIONED,
KATHY, SIMPLY SOME CONCEPT THAT EXISTS OVERSEAS
OR IN SOME SORT OF ACADEMIC INTEREST.
IT'S A REAL CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE GOT TO CONFRONT HERE.
>> LEHR: WHO'S MOST AT RISK?
>> I WOULD SAY A TRAFFICKER CAN BE ANYONE AND
A TRAFFICKING VICTIM CAN BE ANYONE.
KIND OF PULLING OFF WHAT LUKE WAS SAYING
WITH EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY, THE MORE
YOU KNOW ABOUT WHO IS AT RISK, WHO COULD BE
A TRAFFICKER, HOW YOU CAN IDENTIFY IT, HOW
YOU CAN AVOID IT, AVOID BEING VICTIMIZED, THE MORE
YOU CAN REPORT THOSE CRIMES, THE MORE YOU CAN PREVENT IT
IN OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
WE, IN ADDITION TO OUR TRAINING EVENTS EVERY
THIRD THURSDAY, WE ALSO OFFER FREE TRAININGS
TO THE COMMUNITY, ANY COMMUNITY GROUP CAN
APPLY ONLINE ON OUR WEBSITE AND SIGN THEIR GROUP UP
FOR AN INFORMATIONAL SESSION OR A TRAINING OR
PRESENTATION OR REQUEST A SPEAKER
SO THAT THEY CAN BRING THE EDUCATION OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING TO THEIR GROUP, TO THEIR COMMUNITY, SO THAT
THEY KNOW WHAT ARE THE SIGNS AND WHAT TO REPORT.
AND AGAIN, THAT HELPS EXPAND PREVENTING WHO MIGHT BE
AT RISK.
SO MOST STUDIES THAT INVESTIGATE WHAT SEX
TRAFFICKING LOOKS LIKE AND WHO IS AT RISK WHEN
WE TALK ABOUT SEX TRAFFICKING,
RUN AWAY AND HOMELESS YOUTH ARE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEX TRAFFICKING.
THE AVERAGE AGE OF ENTRY INTO PROSTITUTION
IN THE UNITED STATES IS 13.
THAT MEANS THAT THE AVERAGE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS BEING
EXPLOITED THROUGH COMMERCIAL SEX STARTED WHEN THEY WERE
IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND AS A 13 YEAR OLD YOU'RE NOT MAKING THAT DECISION
ON YOUR OWN.
LIFE SITUATION, INDIVIDUALS IN YOUR ENVIRONMENT ARE
INFLUENCING YOU BE MAKING THAT DECISION OR ARE FORCING
YOU INTO THAT SITUATION.
AND SO, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHO IS AT RISK, RUN
AWAY AND HOMELESS YOUTH, INDIVIDUALS WHO FEEL THAT
THEY DON'T HAVE OTHER RESOURCES,
THERE AREN'T PEOPLE WHO THEY CAN REACH OUT
TO FOR HELP OR THAT YOU KNOW THAT THEIR FAMILIES HAVE
ABANDONED OR THEY DON'T FEEL THAT
THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE A SUPPORT SERVICE FOR THEM
ANY MORE -- OR SUPPORT GROUP.
THEY ARE AT RISK WHEN SOMEONE COMES ALONG
AND SAYS, "HEY, YOU KNOW, I CAN LOVE YOU, YOU CAN BE
A PART OF MY FAMILY.
WE CAN MAKE MONEY TOGETHER; WE CAN DO WHAT YOU WANTED
TO DO." TWO WEEKS FROM THEN, "IF
YOU REALLY LOVE ME, YOU'D GO DANCE FOR ME.
IF YOU REALLY LOVE ME YOU'D HAVE SEX WITH THIS FRIEND
OF MINE FOR MONEY." AND IT GOES ON
AND ON AS THAT EXPLOITATION BUILDS AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS
GET FORCED INTO THE LIFE AND THEN THEIR LIFE BECOMES
A VERY DIFFERENT STORY DAY BY DAY ON THE STREETS
IN PIMP-CONTROL PROSTITUTION.
BUT ALSO, FOREIGN NATIONALS WHEN WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT LABOR TRAFFICKING OR SEX TRAFFICKING.
ANYBODY WHO IS VULNERABLE IN ANY WAY, WHICH LET'S FACE
IT WE ALL ARE.
SO TRAFFICKERS ARE REALLY JUST OUT THERE PREYING
ON INDIVIDUALS' VULNERABILITIES.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LABOR TRAFFICKING,
THE CHRONICALLY UNEMPLOYED WHICH IN THIS ECONOMY IS
A LARGER NUMBER THAN MAYBE AT OTHER POINTS
IN OUR HISTORY.
SOMEONE MAYBE OFFERS YOU A JOB, SEEMS A LITTLE
BIT RISKY BUT YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK
BECAUSE YOU NEED THAT MONEY TO SUPPORT YOUR FAMILY.
AND THEN YOU CONTINUE TO GET EXPLOITED EVEN FURTHER
AND YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A LABOR TRAFFICKING
SITUATION.
IT CAN BE ANYONE AND TRAFFICKERS KNOW THAT
AND PREY ON EACH INDIVIDUAL'S
VULNERABILITIES.
>> KATHY, I THINK THAT'S THE REALLY -- ERIN REALLY
SUMMARIZED THE KEY POINT WHICH IS THAT THE
FUNDAMENTAL PROFILE OF A SUCCESSFUL HUMAN
TRAFFICKER IS SOMEONE WHO CAN SEE VULNERABILITY
AND THEN PREY ON IF AND FIGURE OUT HOW
TO EXPLOIT IT.
WHETHER THAT IS SOMEONE WHO HAS EMOTIONAL VULNERABILITY
OR WHETHER IT IS SOMEONE WHO HAS FINANCIAL RESOURCE
VULNERABILITY OR SOMEONE THAT'S IN THE INSTANCE
OF A FOREIGN NATIONAL WHO HAS SORT OF A LEGAL
VULNERABILITY.
THEY FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT PERSON'S VULNERABILITY IS
AND THEY FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXPLOIT IT SO THAT
THEY CONTROL THAT PERSON FOR THEIR OWN PROFIT.
AND THAT'S -- THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY A TIME LESS
STORY OF HUMAN HISTORY.
I MEAN THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY, THAT KIND
OF MOTIVATION HAS EXPANDED, HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE
WE'VE BEEN AROUND.
NOW THAT'S A PRETTY DEPRESSING FACT, BUT THERE'S
INSPIRATIONAL GOOD FACT ASIDE TO THAT WHICH IS THERE
HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO WE LIKE TO CALL ABOLITIONISTS WHO
HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS THAT ENTIRE TIME.
AND WE CAN FEEL, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, WHAT
SOMEBODY WHO SORT OF TAKES THE STANDS IS I'M NOT GOING
TO LET SLAVERY EXIST IN MY COMMUNITY ANY MORE.
THAT'S A REALLY HEROIC THING TO DO ON ITS OWN, BUT IT'S
ALSO TRULY FOLLOWING IN HEROIC HISTORIC
FOOTSTEPS.
YOU REALLY ARE DOING THE SAME TYPE OF THING THAT
THE FRED O'DOUGLASS OF THE WORLD WERE DOING.
YOU REALLY ARE DOING THE SAME TYPE OF THING THAT
THE HARRIET TUBMANS OF THE WORLD WERE DOING.
AND I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE THAT
WE TRY TO SHARE AS MUCH AS WE CAN BECAUSE PEOPLE
SHOULD FEEL PROUD OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING IF THEY ARE
STANDING UP FOR THIS.
THEY SHOULD FEEL EMPOWERED.
AND I THINK EVEN MAYBE MOST IMPORTANTLY SURVIVORS SHOULD
FEEL EMPOWERED TO KNOW THAT NOT ONLY ARE THEY SORT
OF TAKING CONTROL OF THEIR OWN LIFE,
BUT WHEN THEY TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR OWN LIFE THEY ARE
HELPING OTHER PEOPLE TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR OWN LIFE
JUST LIKE FRED O'DOUGLAS AND HARRIET TUBMAN DID.
I MEAN THOSE WERE SURVIVORS OF SLAVERY WHO THEN WENT
ON AND CHANGED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY'S PERCEPTION OF THAT
ISSUE.
AND THAT'S THE SAME KIND OF THING THAT I BELIEVE.
PEOPLE WHO SORT OF TAKING A STAND TODAY ARE DOING,
PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICULARLY SURVIVORS WHO SAY I'M NOT
SATISFIED TAKING BACK CONTROL OF MY OWN LIFE,
WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLE ACHIEVEMENT.
IT SHOWS INCREDIBLE COURAGE.
BUT BEYOND THAT THEY SAY, I WANT TO GO OUT AND HELP
OTHER PEOPLE ESCAPE THIS SITUATION.
AND THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THOSE PEOPLE AROUND
THE COUNTRY WHO ARE LEADING ORGANIZATIONS, WHO
WE INTERACT WITH THEM IN OUR EVENT SERIES
FROM TIME TO TIME.
PEOPLE WHO SAY, "NOT ONLY AM I OUT, BUT I'M GOING TO HELP
OTHER PEOPLE GET OUT.
I'M GOING TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE BE SAVED."
AND SO THOSE ARE REALLY HEROIC STORIES THAT SHOULD
GET LIFTED UP EVEN MORE IN THE PUBLIC CONSCIENCE.
>> LEHR: WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE STORIES
OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GOING ON FOR DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS,
WE'RE TALKING YEARS LIKE HOW LONG IN SOME CASES?
>> IT REALLY DOES DEPEND ON THE SITUATION.
I KNOW YOU KNOW WE'VE HEARD CASES WHERE INDIVIDUALS WERE
BEING EXPLOITED FOR 10, 15 YEARS IN THE SEX TRADE
BY THE SAME OR SOMETIMES DIFFERENT TRAFFICKERS.
YOU KNOW THAT ACTUAL AGE OLD SELLING OF VICTIMS CAN
HAPPEN IN PIMP-CONTROL PROSTITUTION PARTICULARLY
ONE PIMP SELLS A VICTIM TO ANOTHER PIMP.
AND SO IN SEX TRAFFICKING ALONE IT CAN BE 10-15 YEARS,
BUT LABOR TRAFFICKING IT IS THE SAME.
WE PARTICULARLY AGAIN IF WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT A DOMESTIC SERVITUDE SITUATION, WHEN I USED
TO WORK ON THE NATIONAL HOTLINE WE GOT A LOT
OF DIFFERENT CALLS PARTICULARLY RELATED
TO DOMESTIC SERVITUDE.
AND MANY OF THOSE SITUATIONS THE VICTIMS HAD BEEN BEING
EXPLOITED FOR AGAIN, 10, 15 YEARS.
AND SOME OF THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE EXPLOITED
IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY FIRST AND THEN BROUGHT
OVER LEGALLY UNDER LEGAL WORK VISAS TO WORK
IN THE HOME.
BUT THEN WERE EVEN FURTHER EXPLOITED HERE IN THE UNITED
STATES, NOT ABLE TO TALK TO ANYONE, NOT ABLE TO GET
CLOTHES.
THERE WAS ONE SITUATION WHERE IT WAS A SEASONAL
CLIMATE WHERE IT WOULD BE WINTER, SUMMER, AND ONE
OF THE METHODS OF CONTROLS THE TRAFFICKER USED WAS NOT
TO NOT ALLOW THAT WORKER, THAT DOMESTIC SERVANT TO GET
ANY NEW CLOTHES FOR THE WHOLE TIME SHE WAS
THERE.
I BELIEVE SHE WAS THERE FOR ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT
YEARS AND SO SHE DIDN'T HAVE A WINTER COAT, SHE DIDN'T
HAVE LIGHTER SUMMER CLOTHING.
SHE HAD JUST WHAT SHE CAME IN ON AND THAT WAS ALL.
>> LEHR: DO THEY UNDERSTAND THEY ARE BEING, IN SOME
CASES MAYBE THEY DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE
BEING FORCED INTO SERVITUDE?
DO THEY KNOW?
>> AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT
VULNERABILITY FACTORS.
WE MENTIONED SOME, LUKE AND I, BUT CULTURAL
ACCEPTANCE OF PRACTICE IS ALSO ONE.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC SERVITUDE
IN MANY CULTURES AROUND THE WORLD CLASS DIVERSITY IS
STILL VERY WELL ACCEPTED.
AND BUT IN GENERAL EVEN OUTSIDE OF THAT MOST -- MANY
VICTIMS AGAIN DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING
VICTIMIZED OR FEEL THAT THEY ARE BEING VICTIMIZED
BUT DON'T FEEL THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS OR OTHER
PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP.
WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT VULNERABILITIES
IN LABOR TRAFFICKING WITH FOREIGN NATIONALS MANY
DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH WHEN THEY ARE IN THIS COUNTRY,
SO MAYBE DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANYBODY THEY CAN
REACH OUT TO.
LAW ENFORCEMENT MAYBE ISN'T A TRUSTWORTHY ENTITY
IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY, SO THEY DON'T FEEL THAT
THEY CAN CONNECT WITH THE POLICE HERE.
AND SO, FEEL THAT THIS IS JUST THE WAY THEIR LIFE IS
GOING TO BE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYBODY WHO
CAN HELP THEM OUT.
SAME ON SEX TRAFFICKING.
WE TALKED ABOUT YOUTH OR INDIVIDUALS WHO FEEL THAT
SOCIETY HAVE DISREGARDED THEM,
SO WHY WOULD THEY THINK THAT WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO REACH
OUT FOR HELP SOMEBODY'S GOING TO TREAT THEM
WITH THE RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE AND OFFER THEM
THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED TO GET OUT OF THE
SITUATION?
IN MANY CASES THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS.
>> LEHR: WHO ARE THE TRAFFICKERS?
ARE THEY MEMBERS GENERALLY FROM OUR COMMUNITY?
ARE THEY PEOPLE FROM OUT THERE?
>> EVERYBODY, MEMBERS FROM OUR COMMUNITY, A LOT
OF PEOPLE JUST LIKE THEY THINK THAT TRAFFICKING
HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF THE U.S.
>> LEHR: OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.
>> MANY FOLKS THINK THAT IT IS ONLY GANGS OR ORGANIZED
CRIME, AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW GANG MEMBERS AND ORGANIZED
CRIME ARE BUSINESS SO THEY ARE GOING TO GO
AND HAVE HUMAN TRAFFICKING AS WELL AS DRUG TRAFFICKING
AND ARMS TRAFFICKING AND OTHER BUSINESSES THAT
THEY WORK, THE INDUSTRIES THEY WORK IN.
BUT IT IS NOT JUST THE GANG MEMBERS.
MANY OF THE SITUATIONS THAT I HAVE SEEN PARTICULARLY
WITH LABOR TRAFFICKING, DOMESTIC SERVITUDE,
RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS, IT IS MOM AND POP SHOPS,
INDIVIDUALS WHO, FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS AND THEY ARE
EXPLOITING THEIR STAFF EITHER THEY RECRUITED
FROM THEIR HOME COUNTRY SO IT FELT LIKE A SAFE PLACE
TO WORK AND THEN AGAIN THEY ARE
BRINGING PEOPLE INTO A SITUATION WHERE
THEY DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE, THEY DON'T
KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY THEY CAN TRUST.
AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD BE TRUSTED,
MAYBE THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE, THIS IS THE WAY IT
WORKS IN THE U.S.
AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PIMP-CONTROL
PROSTITUTION AND SEX TRAFFICKING, WE HAVE
A VISION OF WHAT A PIMP IS BUT ANYBODY CAN BE
A TRAFFICKER.
WE SEE ALL RACES, ALL GENDERS, WELL BOTH GENDERS.
ALL DIFFERENT DIVERSE GROUPS WHO ARE EXPLOITING OTHERS
EITHER IN SEX TRAFFICKING AND LABOR TRAFFICKING.
>> LEHR: I KNOW THE POLARIS PROJECT RECENTLY CAME OUT
WITH A REPORT THAT RANKED OHIO AND KENTUCKY IN THE TOP
32 STATES WHEN IT COMES TO PROACTIVELY GOING AFTER
THE PEOPLE WHO ABUSE OTHERS LIKE THE HUMAN TRAFFICKERS.
WHAT IS NEW WHEN IT COMES TO NEW LEGISLATION IN OHIO
THAT BETTER PROTECTS THE VICTIMS?
>> WELL, H B 130 IS A NEW HOUSE BILL THAT IS ACTUALLY
UP FOR VOTE, SO FOR FOLKS WHO WANT TO TAKE ACTION
AND CONTACT THEIR SENATOR, IT PASSED THE HOUSE AND IT
IS UP FOR VOTE IN THE SENATE.
WHAT IT WOULD DO IN TERMS OF NEW LEGISLATION IS EXPAND
ON WHAT THE LEGISLATION IS THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND MAKE
IT UP TO KIND OF THE FEDERAL PAR.
SO, ADVANCING OPPORTUNITIES FOR VICTIM SERVICES
AND ADVANCING PROSECUTION FOR JOHNS OR PURCHASERS
OF COMMERCIAL SEX, IT IS CALL THE END DEMAND ACT.
AND MANY OF THE PROVISIONS ARE GEARED TOWARD MAKING IT
EASIER FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ARREST, PROSECUTE,
AND HAVE HIGHER PENALTIES FOR THOSE THAT PURCHASE
COMMERCIAL SEX FROM PARTICULARLY MINORS
OR THOSE WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
BUT IT ALSO EXPANDS THE LAW TO JUST KIND OF OVERALL
SUPPORT VICTIMS AND VICTIMS' RIGHTS.
>> YOU KNOW IT'S AN IMPORTANT FACT
TO MENTION, KATHY, THAT THE KIND OF LEGISLATIVE
ACTIVITY THAT ERIN IS DESCRIBING IS STILL
RELATIVELY NEW.
IT WAS ONLY 2008 WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
AT THE FIRST LAW AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING
SPECIFICALLY WAS PASSED IN OHIO.
THAT'S CORRECT, RIGHT.
UP UNTIL THAT TIME TO ACTUALLY REALLY CORRECTLY
PROSECUTE THIS YOU HAD TO COBBLE TOGETHER SOME
OTHER THINGS THAT APPROXIMATED WHAT WAS BEING
DONE AND THAT FIRST LAW WAS ONLY A REALLY JUST
A STARTING POINT AND IT REALLY SAID WE NEED TO STUDY
THIS.
IT WAS ONLY FIVE YEARS AGO.
SO WE'RE REALLY STILL TAKING, I DON'T KNOW IF IT
IS FAIR TO JUST CALL THEM BABY STEPS, BUT WE'RE REALLY
AT THE BEGINNING OF WHAT HAS TO BE A LONGER PROCESS
FOR THIS.
AND I THINK THE BIGGEST STEP THAT STILL IS YET TO COME IS
THE REAL COMMITMENT OF RESOURCES TO SPECIFICALLY
LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY AGAINST THIS.
AND I THINK RIGHT NOW THE REALITY IS THIS ISSUE
HAS A LOT MORE ATTENTION IN POPULAR CULTURE.
IT HAS A LOT MORE ATTENTION IN THE POLITICAL CULTURE.
THERE ARE LAWS BEING PASSED.
THERE ARE MAJOR COMMITMENTS BEING MADE AT SORT OF A HIGH
LEVEL.
BUT THOSE AREN'T NECESSARILY FILTERING DOWN
TO THE ACTIVITY OF A POLICE DEPARTMENT, SHERIFF'S
OFFICE, FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS.
IT IS NOT TAKING -- IT'S NOT BEING THE PRIORITY THAT
I WOULD ARGUE IT DESERVES FOR THE SCALE OF
THE PROBLEM.
I THINK THE NEXT STEP THAT HAS TO HAPPEN FOR THIS
REALLY TO BE MEANINGFULLY ADDRESSED IN OUR STATE
AND AROUND THE COUNTRY IS TO REALLY DEVOTE
SIGNIFICANTLY MORE RESOURCES TO THE ACTUAL INVESTIGATION
AND PROSECUTION AND ARREST OF TRAFFICKERS.
BECAUSE UNTIL THAT HAPPENS IT IS YOU'RE SORT OF,
YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T SAY YOU'RE WHISTLING
INTO THE WIND, YOU'RE REALLY HAMSTRINGING
THE FOLKS LIKE ERIN AND OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE
REALLY IN THE TRENCHES REALLY TRYING TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
AND I THINK THERE'S A BIG STEP THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
WE SHOULD BE VERY HAPPY AND PROUD OF HOW FAR WE'VE
COME, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY UNSATISFIED
IN THE BIGGER PICTURE ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.
>> LEHR: YOU MENTION THAT HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE TRAPPED
IN THIS LIFE.
THE ONES THAT DO GET OUT SHARE WITH US THE SUCCESS
STORY.
>> THERE ARE MANY AND THERE'S MANY SUCCESSES
ON THE DAILY.
SO CLIENTS THAT WE INTERACT WITH WHO GET THEIR FIRST JOB
OR WHO HAVE THEIR FIRST APARTMENT FOR THEIR OWN
OR GET CUSTODY BACK OF THEIR CHILDREN WHO WERE
TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM WHILE THEY WERE BEING TRAFFICKED.
SO MANY OF THOSE DAILY SUCCESSES IN PEOPLE'S
INDIVIDUAL LIVES.
ONE OF THE MORE BROADLY PUBLICIZED SUCCESS STORIES
THAT IS AFFILIATED WITH END SLAVERY CINCINNATI IS
THE FAMILY OF THE -- THE STORY OF THE DESOZAS
FAMILY WHICH IS A FAMILY FROM INDIA
WHO CAME HERE AND WERE EXPLOITED, THEY WERE
TRAFFICKED IN A RESTAURANT BOTH THE HUSBAND
AND THE WIFE AND TO SOME DEGREE THEIR CHILDREN
AS WELL.
BOTH WERE EDUCATED IN INDIA, HAD THE EQUITANT OF MASTERS
DEGREES ON COLLEGE DEGREES, BACHELOR'S DEGREES AND WERE
FORCED TO WORK IN A RESTAURANT AND BEING
EXPLOITED LONG HOURS, NO BREAKS, NOT BEING PAID
AND BEING THREATENED.
IN THAT PARTICULAR STORY MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT
COULD BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT SINCE
THEY LEFT THEIR SITUATION THEY WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN
VISAS SO THEY COULD STAY IN THIS
COUNTRY, THEY HAVE OBTAINED JOBS, THEY HAVE GOT
THEIR OWN PLACE, THEIR CHILDREN ARE GOING
TO SCHOOL AND HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL HONORS AND AWARDS
FROM THEIR SUCCESS IN SCHOOL.
AND HAVE -- THEY HAVE JUST REALLY BEEN ENJOYING
THEIR LIFE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES
AND HAVE BEEN DOING REALLY WELL.
>> LEHR: SHARE WITH US SOME SIGNS THAT SOMETHING MIGHT
BE GOING ON, SOMEBODY MIGHT BE A VICTIM OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING SUCH AS IN THE SEX INDUSTRY.
WHAT ARE SOME WARNING SIGNS?
>> THERE ARE A LOT OUT THERE.
AND ACTUALLY MANY OF THEM ARE VERY SIMILAR FOR BOTH
LABOR AND SEX TRAFFICKING.
SO THE BIGGEST ONE FOR THE BYSTANDER WHO
DOESN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH THAT VICTIM
IS DOES THAT PERSON APPEAR TO BE UNDER THE CONTROL
OF SOMEONE ELSE?
SO, AND YOU THINK THAT THINGS THAT SEEMS LIKE KIND
OF A NO-BRAINER INDICATOR, BUT IT CAN SOMETIMES BE HARD
TO SEE BUT IF YOU LOOK FOR IT YOU CAN FIND IT.
SO, IF IN THE SEX TRAFFICKING INDUSTRY
PARTICULARLY PIMP-CONTROL PROSTITUTION,
MANY PURCHASERS OF COMMERCIAL SEX WANT
TO PURCHASE COMMERCIAL SEX UNDER THE FACADE THAT THIS
IS, THEY HAVE MONEY, THEY WANT SEX, THESE WOMEN
HAVE A BODY AND WANT MONEY.
SO IT IS THIS SIMPLE EXCHANGE.
THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE SOMEBODY CONTROLLING THEM.
AND SO PIMPS USUALLY STAY IN THE BACKGROUND OR WILL
WALK BEHIND NOT ACTUALLY INTERACTING DIRECTLY
WITH THE VICTIM OFTEN TIMES.
BUT YOU CAN SEE IT IF YOU LOOK FOR IT YOU SEE
SOMEONE KIND OF HOVERING AROUND, MAYBE SHOUTING
AT PEOPLE AROUND THEM OR JUST GENERALLY VERY
OBSERVANT AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON.
IN A LABOR TRAFFICKING SITUATION WHERE WE SEE
FREQUENTLY IN OHIO TRAVELING SALES CREWS, KIDS OR YOUNG
ADULTS WHO ARE SELLING MAGAZINES SUBSCRIPTIONS,
CANDY, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE DOOR TO DOOR.
NOT EVERY TRAVELING SALES CREW IS A TRAFFICKING
NETWORK BUT THERE CAN BE A LOT OF VULNERABILITY
FOR EXPLOITATION IN THOSE NETWORKS AND WE DO SEE
TRAFFICKING IN THOSE NETWORKS.
MANY TIMES ON BOTH THE LOCAL AND THE NATIONAL HOTLINE
WE RECEIVE CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHO THEIR DOOR WAS KNOCKED
ON AND SOMEONE OFFERED TO SELL THEM A MAGAZINE.
BUT THEY ASK SIMPLE QUESTIONS, "ARE
YOU THIRSTY?
ARE YOU HUNGRY?
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING TODAY?
WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR?" IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHO
THEY ARE WORKING FOR, WHAT THE MONEY GOES TO, THEY SAID
THEY HAVEN'T EATEN TODAY, THEY ARE HOT, THEY DON'T
KNOW WHERE THEY ARE SLEEPING TONIGHT,
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TOWN THEY ARE IN, ALL OF THOSE
SUGGEST THAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS PULLING THE STRINGS
THERE.
SOMEBODY ELSE IS MAKING THOSE DECISIONS FOR THEM.
AND SO THAT COULD BE AN INDICATOR THAT THERE
COULD BE EXPLOITATION GOING ON.
AGAIN THOSE ARE JUST BROAD INDICATORS.
THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE MORE IN-DEPTH THAT CAN YOU GET
FROM ASKING QUESTIONS, GETTING A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING DO THEY HAVE CONTROL OF THEIR DOCUMENTS?
ARE THEY GETTING PAID?
ARE THEY ABLE TO LEAVE THEIR WORK SITUATION
OR THEIR RELATIONSHIP IF THEY WANT TO?
DO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN?
THOSE ARE ALL INDICATORS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET
BY ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT EVEN JUST OBSERVING
YOU CAN USUALLY GET A GENERAL SENSE THAT
SOMETHING AS LUKE WAS MENTIONING
BEFORE, SOMETHING FISHY IS GOING ON AND IT IS WORTH
REPORTING, EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW.
IT IS ALWAYS WORTH REPORTING BECAUSE THE HOTLINE
OPERATORS WHO ANSWER CAN TALK YOU THROUGH, ASK THOSE
QUESTIONS, GET THE INFORMATION THEY NEED.
AND IF IT IS A SITUATION WHERE YOU MAY INTERACT
WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL AGAIN, MAYBE HELP GUIDE
YOU IN OTHER INFORMATION TO LOOK FOR OR OTHER
QUESTIONS TO ASK IF IT IS SAFE TO DO SO, OBVIOUSLY.
>> AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT I WANT
TO UNDER SCORE IS THE HOTLINE EXISTS NOT JUST
FOR SOMEONE TO CALL AND SAY, "I'M ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN,
I SAW THIS THING AND THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, IT IS
HUMAN TRAFFICKING."
IT IS FOR PEOPLE TO CALL WITH SOMETHING THEY SEE THAT
IS SUSPICIOUS.
AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT IT IS IT IS COLLECTING CALLS
FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND ALL OVER OUR REGION.
AND YOU CAN THEN SEE TRENDS AND SEE IF YOU GET A BUNCH
OF CALLS ABOUT A CERTAIN LOCATION, THEN THAT'S
A REASON TO INVESTIGATE FURTHER.
SO I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE
TO THE BROADER PUBLIC TO THINK OF THAT
IN THE BROADEST SENSE OF WHAT I SHOULD BOTHER
TO REPORT, WHICH IS ANYTHING.
>> LEHR: ERIN, YOUR BEST ADVICE TO SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT
BE WATCH THIS PROGRAM WHO MIGHT BE A VICTIM.
>> CALL THE HOTLINE.
WE'RE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY.
FIND A WAY TO CALL AND WE CAN CONNECT THAT
PERSON WITH RESOURCES, WE PROVIDE CRISIS
INTERVENTIONS, WE CAN COME PICK FOLKS UP IN A SAFE
ENVIRONMENT OR CONNECT WITH OTHERS TO MAKE SURE IT
IS A SAFE SITUATION.
HELP GET SHELTER, FOOD, CLOTHES, COUNSELING, RESPOND
TO THE VARIETY OF THE DIFFERENT NEEDS THIS
INDIVIDUAL MIGHT NEED AND WORK WITH THEM TO CREATE
A CASE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR RECOVERY.
AND SO THAT PERSON CAN BE LIVING AN INDEPENDENT LIFE
THE WAY THEY WANT TO BE.
SO ANYBODY WHO IS EXPLOITED OR YOU THINK YOU ARE
IN CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE EXPLOITED, CALL
THE HOTLINE.
WE'RE GETTING -- WHEN WE FIRST STARTED MAY 2012
WE WERE GETTING AN AVERAGE OF 10-15 CALLS A MONTH.
NOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO 60 AND 70 IN JUST
A YEAR'S SPAN.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, THAT GOES
TO THE PREVALENCE OR GREATER UNDERSTANDING AND GREATER
AWARENESS OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT IT IS JUST MORE AND MORE.
AND THE MORE YOU CALL THE MORE WE CAN CONNECT
PEOPLE WITH THE RESOURCES THEY NEED.
>> LEHR: MOVING FORWARD, ARE YOU PLEASED WITH WHAT ARE
YOU SEEING SO FAR?
ARE YOU PLEASED WITH RESPONSE OVERALL
FROM THE COMMUNITY FROM OUR LEGISLATORS?
>> DEFINITELY.
AS LUKE SAID, THERE'S DEFINITELY ROOM FOR GROWTH
BUT IT HAS BEEN AS LUKE ALSO SAID THERE IS DEFINITELY
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO ENGAGE
AND FOR EVERYONE TO BE WORKING TO COMBAT THIS ISSUE
AND WE'RE SEEING THAT FROM ALL, FROM HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENTS, FROM JUDGES AND ATTORNEYS,
ANYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET INVOLVED JUST
BY GETTING EDUCATED, REPORTING, EDUCATING
THEIR COMMUNITY.
THE MORE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT THE MORE WE CAN
REPORT IT.
IT IS NOT JUST LUKE AND I WHO ARE WORKING
ON THIS ISSUE.
THERE ARE SO MANY OTHERS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE
ENGAGING WITH US, ENGAGING WITH OUR COALITION
TO CONNECT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BROAD COMMUNITY
RESPONSE, INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THERE IS A LOT TO GO WHEN IT COMES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OFFICERS WHO ARE VERY
DEDICATED TO THE ISSUE AND ARE INVESTIGATING MORE
AND MORE EVERY DAY.
>> LEHR: ERIN, LUKE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME
TODAY.
>> THANK YOU, KATHY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> LEHR: IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE,
IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE AT HOME.
>> YES.
>> LEHR: FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT END
SLAVERY CINCINNATI, VISIT THEIR WEBSITE AT
ENDSLAVERYCINCINNATI.ORG.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REPORT A HUMAN TRAFFICKING
SITUATION, CONNECT WITH REFERRALS, OR ARE
IN NEED OF CRISIS INTERVENTION PLEASE DIAL
THE GREATER CINCINNATI HUMAN TRAFFICKING HOTLINE
AT 513-800-1863.
FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE NATIONAL
UNDERGROUND RAILROAD FREEDOM CENTER, PLEASE VISIT
THEIR WEBSITE AT FREEDOMCENTER.ORG.
YOU MAY ALSO CALL THEM AT 877-648-4838.
FINALLY, TO WATCH THIS AND OTHER FOCUS EPISODES
AGAIN ON DEMAND, YOU CAN DO SO AT OUR WEBSITE
CETCONNECT.ORG/FOCUS.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
I'M KATHY LEHR AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME RIGHT HERE
ON FOCUS.
>> TELL US WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROGRAMS WE AIR
OR LET US KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PARTICULAR
TOPIC ON FOCUS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS CAN YOU CONTACT US:
YOU CAN SEND YOUR COMMENTS BY E-MAIL TO
[email protected]; YOU CAN CALL US
AT 513-345-6522; OR YOU CAN WRITE TO US
AT FOCUS, CARE OF ANDREW DAHMAN,
1223 CENTRAL PARKWAY, CINCINNATI, OHIO, 45214.
ANY USE OR REBROADCAST OF THIS COPY WRITTEN PROGRAM
OR PORTIONS THEREOF IS PROHIBITED WITHOUT
THE EXPRESSED WRITTEN APPROVAL OF CET.
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