HAVE WE GOT AN INTERESTING SHOW FOR YOU TONIGHT.

NORMALLY WE WOULD GO STORY BY STORY, AND WE WILL.

ANA WILL JOIN ME FOR THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A VERY RARE LIVE INTERVIEW AND

THAT IS BECAUSE BERNIE SANDERS IS IN THE STUDIO.

SENATOR SANDERS, WELCOME.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

THERE IS LOTS TO TALK ABOUT.

ALMOST A YEAR AGO YOU WERE DOWN ONLY 59 POINTS IN THE POLLS.

THAT WAS A GOOD POLL.

THIS WEEK YOU ARE WITHIN FIVE POINTS OF HILLARY CLINTON.

YOU'VE WON 12

CONTESTS SO FAR, BUT I HAVE INTERVIEWED YOU IN THE PAST

AND MY HONEST ASSESSMENT IS THAT YOU WOULD'VE HAD NO CHANCE,

12 YEARS AGO, EIGHT YEARS AGO, OR EVEN FOUR YEARS AGO.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT, AND IF YOU DO, WHAT DO YOU THINK

HAS CHANGED SO DRAMATICALLY TO PUT YOU IN THIS POSITION?

I DO AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IS PEOPLE ARE LOOKING

AT THE WORLD IN WHICH THEY ARE LIVING, WHAT THEY ARE SEEING IS

THEY ARE WORKING IN MANY CASES LONGER HOURS, FOR LOW WAGES.

THEY ARE SEEING THAT THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO SEND THEIR KIDS

TO COLLEGE, AND THEY WORRY ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THEIR CHILDREN.

I THINK THAT IS EMOTIONALLY ñ AND NO MATTER WHETHER YOU

ARE CONSERVATIVE OR PROGRESSIVE, YOU THINK THAT SUCKS.

THAT IS NOT WHAT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IS.

AND I FIND A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER ON THAT.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS PEOPLE SEE A CORRUPT CAMPAIGN FINANCE SYSTEM.

WHERE BILLIONAIRES ARE BUYING ELECTIONS AND THEY ARE

UNHAPPY ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MOST SANE PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND THAT

CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO CAUSE DEVASTATING PROBLEMS UNLESS

WE GET A HANDLE ON IT.

SO, WHY NOW DO YOU THINK THAT FRUSTRATION HAS BUILT TO A

CLIMAX AND WITH THE SENSE OF, WELL, NOTHING IS EVER GOING

TO CHANGE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MONEY IN POLITICS ISSUE.

I THINK THE FOLKS WHO TOOK ON WALL STREET DESERVE SOME

CREDIT FOR RAISING THE ISSUE OF INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY.

I THINK THE COMBINATION OF SIMPLY THE REALITY OF

AMERICAN LIFE ñ PEOPLE ASK THEMSELVES, WHY ARE WE THE

ONLY COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE?

WHY DO WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF CHILDHOOD POVERTY?

WHY ARE KIDS GRADUATING COLLEGE DEEPLY IN DEBT?

THIS IS THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN HISTORY.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY LIKE THIS?

I THINK THAT IS THE REALITY THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING.

AND THEY ARE SAYING ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

COME TO THE RALLIES THAT WE DO, WE HAVE 10, 20,000 PEOPLE.

YOU SEE THE HOPE IN PEOPLE'S EYES THAT WE CAN, AS A

NATION, DO A LOT BETTER.

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE MEDIA HERE. GOOD.

ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAY IS THAT IT IS UNREALISTIC.

YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES HAVE

SINGLE-PAYER HEALTHCARE AND HAVE ALL THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED.

SO WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THE MEDIA IS SAYING IT IS UNREALISTIC?

FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CORPORATE MEDIA.

LET ME CONGRATULATE YOU BECAUSE WE NEED TO BREAK THROUGH THE

FOG OF THE CORPORATE MEDIA, WHICH DOES EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN

TO KEEP US ENTERTAINED WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE REAL ISSUES.

I AM IN THE CORPORATE MEDIA EVERY SINGLE DAY.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HARD IT IS JUST TO TRY AND DEMAND FOR

THEM TO BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES.

THEY TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN, BUT NOT THE REAL ISSUES.

I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE IS A CORPORATE MEDIA WHICH,

BY DEFINITION, HAS CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

COMCAST OWNS NBC. DISNEY IS A CO-OWNER.

THEY ARE BRINGING IN PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO REPLACE

AMERICAN WORKERS.

THESE ARE ISSUES THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS.

SECOND OF ALL, THE MODEL FOR MEDIA COVERAGE RIGHT NOW IS

SIX SECOND SOUNDBITES AND AN UNWILLINGNESS TO TALK ABOUT

THE REAL ISSUES IN A SERIOUS WAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, CLIMATE CHANGE.

I HAD TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE PRESIDENTS OF ALL THE

NETWORKS TO TELL THEM THEIR SUNDAY SHOWS, THEY NEVER

TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE.

WHY?

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THEY GET A LOT OF

OIL MONEY FOR ADVERTISING?

I THINK IT DOES.

INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY, WE HAVEN'T HAD REALLY SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS.

HEALTHCARE ñ DID YOU SEE MICHAEL MOORE'S MOVIE CALLED SICKO?

YES I DID. IT WAS A BRILLIANT MOVIE.

BUT I TELL YOUNG PEOPLE, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE ARE

THE ONLY RICH COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT HAVE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL.

THEY DON'T KNOW THAT IN GERMANY, COLLEGE IS FREE.

THE MEDIA IS NOT TELLING THEM THAT.

THE MEDIA WANTS TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING IN THE

WORLD EXCEPT IMPORTANT ISSUES.

IF YOU TALK ABOUT REAL ISSUES, AND PEOPLE GET EDUCATED, DO

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

THE ACTUALLY MAY WANT TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE.

DO YOU THINK YOU SEE NBC TALKING ABOUT CITIZENS UNITED?

I DON'T THINK SO. TELEVISION STATIONS MAKE A HUGE AMOUNT.

I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, DO YOU THINK THAT TIME WARNER AND

COMCAST SHOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT THEY ARE AMONG THE TOP

10 DONORS TO HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN THROUGHOUT HER CAREER?

YEAH.

THEY ARE DOING THE DEBATES, ELECTION NIGHT COVERAGE,

AND THEY NEVER SAY THAT WE ARE AMONG THE TOP DONORS.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THEY FOCUS ON MEDIA ITSELF, AND I DON'T DO ENOUGH OF IT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT POINT IS RIGHT, BUT THE DEMAND HAS

GOT TO BE FOR THE MEDIA ñ THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT,

TRYING TO GO AROUND THE SYSTEM.

I WAS AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY THE OTHER DAY.

BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS, BEAUTIFUL KIDS.

I ASKED THEM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THERE IS ONLY ONE COUNTRY

THAT DOESN'T HAVE HEALTHCARE?

CONCEPTS ON JUSTICE- LEARNING WHAT GOES ON AROUND THE REST

OF THE WORLD.

VERY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE, NEVER TALKED ABOUT IN CORPORATE MEDIA.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE MEDIA

HAS DONE TO YOU.

I HAVE GIVEN DOZENS OF THESE EXAMPLES ON THE SHOW, BUT I

WANT TO HAVE YOU REACT TO IT.

FOR EXAMPLE THERE IS A

HEADLINE AGAINST YOU IN THE WASHINGTON POST.

IT'S AMAZING.

THEN WE HAD CHRIS CUOMO ASKING YOU THESE QUESTIONS.

I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO HOW MAY TIMES HE ASKED YOU

ABOUT HOW YOU ARE PUNISHING PEOPLE.

HOW YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT IS ACTUALLY PUNITIVE.

YOU ARE GOING TO PUNISH PEOPLE WHO MAKE MONEY.

YOU WANT TO PUNISH THE FINANCIAL DISTRICT.

YOU ARE GOING TO PUNISH AND WIND UP CHANGING THE IDEA OF AN

OPEN AND FREE ECONOMY BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PUNISH THEM

FOR SPECULATING.

I BELIEVE THAT WE COUNTED FOUR PUNISHES IN THERE.

HOW COME THEY NEVER ASK, HEY, ARE YOU GOING TO PUNISH THE KIDS

IN THIS COUNTRY BY SPENDING $1 TRILLION IN THE GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE ACT?

YOU ASKED EXACTLY THE RIGHT QUESTION. HERE IS THE STORY.

I HAVE BEEN MAYOR FOR EIGHT YEARS, CONGRESS FOR 16, U.S.

SENATE FOR NINE YEARS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA HAVE

SAID, BERNIE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO END POVERTY IN AMERICA?

WE HAVE 47 MILLION PEOPLE IN POVERTY.

WHAT YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? THE ANSWER IS ZERO. NOT ONCE.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS NOT THAT THE MEDIA IS RIGHT WING OR

WHATEVER, IT IS THEY FRAME THE DISCUSSION.

THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE GOT TO BREAK THROUGH.

BY THE WAY, IF YOU THINK THIS IS THE WORST, HE IS NOT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE A LOT MORE

CONSERVATIVE THAN CHRIS.

ON THIS ISSUE, WHAT CHRIS COULD'VE SAID WAS, BERNIE,

IN THE LAST 30 YEARS AS YOU KNOW, TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS HAVE

BEEN IN A MASSIVE REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH.

TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS HAVE GONE FROM THE HANDS OF THE

MIDDLE CLASS INTO THE ONE PERCENT.

BERNIE, THIS IS AN OUTRAGE. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT?

THAT WASN'T QUITE THE QUESTION I WAS ASKED.

DO YOU KNOW HOW OFTEN I AM ASKED THAT? ZERO.

MY IDEALS ARE RADICAL.

BUT IT IS NOT RADICAL WHEN WALL STREET, WHOSE ILLEGAL

BEHAVIOR NEARLY DESTROYED THIS ECONOMY, GETS BAILED OUT.

IT'S JUST THE WAY WE DO THINGS.

BUT TO TRY TO HELP THEIR CHILDREN, OR YOUNG PEOPLE

AFFORD TO GO TO COLLEGE, THAT IS UNREALISTIC.

I HAVE ONE MORE. THIS ONE IS ANDERSON COOPER.

AGAIN, LOOK AT THE FRAMING HERE.

I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO RESPOND TO IT.

AGAIN, THIS IS CNN OWNED BY TIME WARNER.

THIS IS FOUR QUESTIONS IN A ROW, WE CUT OUT YOUR ANSWERS.

THEY ARE ALL ON CASTRO IN CUBA. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT CUBA.

OBAMA IS IN CUBA RIGHT NOW, A HISTORIC VISIT.

AS PRESIDENT, WOULD YOU ALSO MAKE HISTORY?

WOULD YOU INVITE RAUL CASTRO IF HE IS STILL THE LEADER OF