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  • - Howard Smith: People seem to be having a lot of trouble

  • getting along with each other, I mean couples.

  • Both of you seem very, very close.

  • What's your secret?

  • - John Lennon: It's called love.

  • And there's nothing that splits that up.

  • I mean you get to work on it like it is a precious gift

  • and it's a plant and you've got to look after it

  • and water it and you don't just sit on your backside,

  • and think: "Oh well, we're in love, so that's alright.

  • But that's the secret. It's all true folks.

  • All you need is love.

  • I can't give you the formula for meeting the person that you're going to love.

  • But it's around. And it happens.

  • I mean it happened to me at 29 and Yoko at 32.

  • - Yoko Ono: Whatever.

  • - And it's a long wait, you know, I didn't think it was...

  • I thought it was an abstract thing.

  • When I was singing about "All You Need is Love",

  • I was talking about something I hadn't experienced.

  • I had experienced love for people in gusts

  • and love for things and trees and things like that,

  • but I hadn't experienced what I was singing about.

  • It's like anything, you sing about it first or write about it first,

  • and find out what you were talking about after.

  • - Well, I never thought that it would happen in this late stage of my life.

  • I mean I was just sort of... I was starting to give up hope. That kind of thing,

  • becoming very cynical and all that. But it happened and it's very, very, very good.

  • - It's no good having... being with people you can dominate all the time.

  • Or being with someone who can dominate you all the time.

  • Because either one is boring.

  • But if you're with somebody who's got a ticking mind--

  • which was the best part about being with the Beatles when they were ticking,

  • was they were ticking.

  • But it began to slow down.

  • - We certainly don't... - But with Yoko, it's

  • like living with 4 or 5 people.... It's far out.

  • - Well we do say, four of us

  • are getting along very well these days aren't we? Or something like that.

  • - That'll do. They'll have us put away.

  • - Marriage itself, as an official ceremony

  • seems to have somewhat gone out of style.

  • How come you decided to go through with a regular marriage?

  • - Because we turned out to be romantics.

  • I mean we went through the whole intellectual bit about marriage,

  • where it's a bit of paper and some guy gives it to you.

  • And that's all true.

  • But when he gave it to us,

  • it was very emotional, and it wasn't even a...

  • we couldn't even get a nice vicar or a bishop to do it.

  • It's completely against what we thought,

  • what I thought intellectually. I thought well it's never again, forget about this one.

  • You know, what a joke, what a joke it all is.

  • And the next minute, I'm standing there

  • and she's crying and it's like we're soft kids.

  • So we're romantic, and it made a difference.

  • - Can there be such a thing as being too close?

  • Can that actually... Because in your case it doesn't seem that way.

  • - Like stifling each other then. You see we're both mind people.

  • So to be apart, we don't have to physically be apart.

  • - Exactly. You have to say that.

  • - I just said it.

  • - Oh, alright.

  • - I just said it. Ding, dong, ding, dong. Next round.

  • - Right. But the point is this is an interesting example....

  • - Well they're all brought up to think that

  • you mustn't give a child too much love,

  • A couple mustn't be together too much.

  • It's good for the husband to be working in America while the wife's in Brazil.

  • We don't believe all that jazz.

  • That's just some social Christian jazz

  • that someone must have laid on us a few generations ago.

  • And you can't give a child too much love

  • and if you love somebody, you can't be with them enough.

  • There's no such thing. We don't want to be apart.

  • I have a horror that one day, I'm going to have seen every movie in America

  • and I'll have to go to some other country.

  • I just like TV. I think to me, it replaced the fireplace when I was a child.

  • They took the fire away and they put a TV in instead and I got hooked on it.

  • - You can see TV on many levels actually, many different levels.

  • - I was a great one as a kid for standing

  • and just looking out a window for hours and hours and hours.

  • Now the TV does that for me, except for the view changes immensely.

  • One minute it's the saint, the next it's a rocket, or Vietnam.

  • It's very surreal. I leave it in on whether I have the sound on or not.

  • - You don't have to go to India anymore.

  • You don't have to go anywhere. You can just be here.

  • - It's like Paul Kraston said,

  • "All I ask in life is a water bed, a TV and a typewriter."

  • Well, I'll just have an ordinary bed, a TV and a guitar.

  • Apart from Yoko.

- Howard Smith: People seem to be having a lot of trouble

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