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  • So, what is it that scares so many people

  • about transgender communities?

  • And what's it like to live as the focus of that fear?

  • Jessica Williams finds out.

  • WILLIAMS: Iowa's most famous for its cornfields,

  • butter sculptures, and butter sculptures of cornfields.

  • Until last summer, when transgender woman Meagan Taylor

  • tried to check in to the Drury Inn in the city of Des Moines.

  • We sat down with Taylor herself for an exclusive tell-all.

  • I could tell when I checked in

  • to the hotel that it was... it was...

  • Shh. I got this, real Meagan Taylor.

  • It was July 12, 2015.

  • You presented your I.D. to the hotel manager.

  • Hi. I have a reservation.

  • But she was onto you.

  • Fearing for her life, she took immediate action.

  • WOMAN:

  • And that's when the cops came and all hell broke loose.

  • But let's rewind here.

  • What triggered the cops to respond?

  • You pull out a gun, and then the cops come

  • and you're arrested?

  • None of that happened.

  • Well, did you pull out a knife?

  • ♪ ♪

  • No.

  • Well, did you do drugs?

  • Nothing of the sort.

  • Well, then why the hell were you arrested?

  • Um, I got arrested because I was a black transgender woman.

  • Specifically, cops held her because she didn't have

  • a prescription for her hormone pills.

  • And this is 2016.

  • What were you doing in Iowa?

  • I was there going to a funeral.

  • -You were there for a funeral? -Yeah.

  • And did you get to attend the funeral,

  • -at least? -I didn't get to make the funeral at all.

  • How long were you in jail for?

  • I was in jail for eight days.

  • I'm sorry. I...

  • It's terrible. Take your time.

  • Ugh, I thought it was tough being a black woman.

  • But compared to a black transgender woman,

  • I might as well be a white frat dude

  • at a Dave Matthews concert.

  • Transgender women get arrested all the time,

  • especially black transgender women,

  • just by walking down the street or anything.

  • And by anything, she means literally anything.

  • Because of discrimination and profiling,

  • at least 47% of black trans people

  • will have at some point in their lives been incarcerated.

  • Let's underline, bold, and set fire to that (bleep) graphic,

  • because it's 47%.

  • You think there'd be laws to correct this.

  • But instead, this year alone,

  • state legislatures have introduced

  • 175 anti-trans bills.

  • Many make it legal to discriminate based solely

  • on religious beliefs.

  • And then you have these bathroom bills.

  • REPORTER: It would fine and imprison transgender people

  • who use public restrooms that don't match

  • the gender on their birth certificate.

  • WILLIAMS: That's what's really triggering this trans panic.

  • Just listen to Colorado representative

  • and Elmer Fudd look-alike Gordon Klingenschmitt.

  • Should we fear the transgender community?

  • Well, they not only want to be confused

  • about their own identity,

  • but they want the rest of us to be confused with them.

  • Now they want the government to join them in that pretense.

  • -They're making us into liars. -Wow.

  • Okay. I met with these so-called liars

  • to find out what their evil intentions are.

  • There's a notion that trans people are perpetrators

  • in some way, that we're sneaking and trying to trick you

  • for the purposes of having sex with you.

  • And that's not the case at all.

  • People just want to see male and female,

  • like it has to fit in one of those two boxes,

  • and if it doesn't, it makes people uncomfortable.

  • -And it's surely not a choice. -That's all you need to know.

  • Well, not according to Klingenschmitt, who thinks

  • that we're all going to get attacked in the bathroom.

  • A man can go into a ladies' room

  • and assault you and your little girl.

  • Especially in our most important bathrooms.

  • Next time, ladies, you go out to Olive Garden,

  • watch out who's gonna be in the bathroom.

  • There's no reported incidences of any trans person

  • ever raping or assaulting anyone in any bathroom ever.

  • If anything, trans people are the ones getting assaulted.

  • These people are up against some bull(bleep).

  • There must be some small way I can help them out.

  • Give me some offensive comments or questions,

  • and I'll give you some good answers

  • that you can use in your day-to-day life.

  • Why are your feet so small?

  • Oh. You think my feet are small?

  • -You have a (bleep). -Wow. Whew!

  • Okay, that's guns a-blazing on that question.

  • Um, I don't currently have a (bleep), so...

  • -How much? -How much for...?

  • -Sex. -Oh, (bleep). Uh...

  • -How do you have sex? -So, are your parents ashamed of you?

  • -What's the gender mark on your ID? -When do you tell them that

  • -you're really a man? -I don't know.

  • When it's appropriate?

  • Do you have cadaver tits?

  • -Don't tell me what that is. -What's your real name?

  • -Yeah. I just want to know. -Yeah. What's your name?

  • -Tell us. -Did you chop it off?

  • Do straight women date you,

  • -or gay women? -How much would it cost?

  • -(overlapping chatter) -Do you like to suck (bleep)?

  • -(overlapping chatter) -What's your real name?

  • WILLIAMS: The transgender community is more oppressed

  • than I could have ever imagined,

  • so why does Gordon feel so threatened?

  • Have you ever been attacked by a transgender person?

  • Is that why this is happening?

  • No.

  • Have you ever had a traumatic experience with a trans person?

  • I wouldn't call it traumatic, no. I-I...

  • -Devastating? -Yeah. No.

  • You haven't?

  • So why does he feel this way?

  • Dressing like a woman, and he's not a woman.

  • WILLIAMS: Wait a second. This guy's a preacher, too?

  • And he thinks what?

  • It's not just a psychological disorder.

  • It's actually a demonic spirit.

  • WILLIAMS: Okay, so now they're possessed?

  • Go on.

  • I would be comfortable talking about religious freedom,

  • but I'd have to change into my alter ego

  • if you're okay with that.

  • You have to change into your alter ego?

  • Who are you, Lady Gaga? Go on ahead and change.

  • Okay, hold up. Is everybody seeing this?

  • I am actually waiting for this man to transition

  • so that he can feel more comfortable

  • during our interview.

  • Oh, and also, hey, heads up.

  • I am not judging him for his personal choice.

  • Until he took out his phone

  • to judge others for their personal choices.

  • And Deuteronomy 22:5 says,

  • "A woman must not wear men's clothing,

  • "nor a man wear women's clothing

  • for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this."

  • I don't remember that part,

  • -but there is a part about shellfish... -Mm-hmm.

  • -...or stoning people to death. -Mm-hmm.

  • Getting tattoos.

  • But what about

  • their sincerely held religious beliefs?

  • They can go (bleep) in their (bleep) hand,

  • -because we have separation of church and state. -Mm.

  • Because we believe in our constitution.

  • WILLIAMS: Nevertheless, these bathroom bills

  • are being passed,

  • and Gordon is doing everything he can to make it happen.

  • Get used to the idea

  • of having your women and children share bathrooms

  • with cross-dressing men

  • who are going to expose themselves to you.

  • Do you, for whatever reason,

  • associate being transgender with being a pervert?

  • I mean, that is perversion.

  • It's people who label themselves

  • as transgender for the purpose of getting that access

  • to violate the rights of others.