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  • Hey everyone this is a special episode of Behind The Curtain in honor of

  • Toy Story 4 coming out this Friday. I have teamed up with some other

  • youtubers to create Pixar Perception. All of us have picked our favorite Pixar

  • movies to analyze and you can watch the other videos in the playlist. I'll have

  • the link down below and you can make a video to pick a scene from your favorite

  • Pixar movie Use the hashtag Pixar perception and tag

  • Network 19:01 and then you'll be added to the playlist if you're new to my

  • channel instead of giving my own theories on film I shape my videos

  • around what the creator's themselves have to say now let's get this video

  • started

  • I think at the heart of it always is the story and that was something that John

  • Lassiter understood from the very beginning was look we could have the

  • most amazing groundbreaking visuals and animation and everything but if we don't

  • have a good story than seven minutes people are gonna walk out of the theater

  • Bob Peterson who's co-writer and co-director he and I just always thought

  • it would be fun to do something with a grouchy old man somebody with a lot of

  • attitude and personality you know this guy who would haven't it like my

  • grandfather did you know he would tell you whether you it was a popular thing

  • or not he would tell you what he thought you know and that's the way Carl is and

  • we wanted to have a real change that happens to him that by the end he's not

  • shut in and boxed in his little house he's now stretching out and connecting

  • with people around him again hmm that's really the message of the film if you

  • will the relationship we have with other people is really what makes life worth

  • living Karl's doing this weird thing of dragging his house across the world why

  • right it's got to be a pretty strong reason and we hit on this idea of

  • adventure as being either something you travel to and reach out for or it's

  • something more personal and inside and that was the spine of the film yeah we

  • have the idea that Carl would lose his first family his wife passes away he

  • goes off to do something that she wanted to complete and then we give him a new

  • family and that it just was up to Carl to accept them or not and then that was

  • basically the why he could take in the second act he could either go along on

  • this false quest to the Falls or start accepting new people and into his lives

  • which is what if Ellie would have wanted anyway that might sound boring but I

  • think the boring stuff is the stuff I remember the most

  • all your surrounding characters your side characters have to magnify or put

  • your main character in contrast also have to push them forward along this

  • journey or Thor you don't need them at all each side character has an empty

  • quest that they're going on but they act as kind of mentors for Carl

  • when Russell says you know it's the it's the boring things I remember he's

  • talking about his empty Qwest with his father but it's also

  • something that goes into Carl's head and helps him push him along and then

  • thereafter what happens is we screen it everybody who we invited comes up to a

  • room and tells us what they liked what they didn't like and we then the

  • creative team kind of the core creative team goes away and says what do you guys

  • think of it what should we do how do we want to change this and just and then we

  • do that whole thing all over again and we do it about seven or eight times

  • before the film is really ready to produce well that was one of the great

  • pleasures for me in working on Toy Story and the success of Toy Story was that I

  • got to meet these heroes of mine like Frank Thomas and Joe grant as you

  • mentioned one thing he always more than once would mention is what are you

  • giving the audience to take home and that always kind of puzzled me at first

  • but as we talked about it I realized what he meant was

  • okay there's all the fun of bright colors and movement but what the next

  • day or in two months are people going to think about that is in your film the

  • more particular and specific you are in the storytelling the more generally it

  • applies right if you try to generalize then nobody really gets anything but if

  • you're very specific and personal about it it seems to resonate more story is

  • kind of the way we speak I think it's why we go to the movies you know it's

  • why we listen to stories because you want these bigger questions and in a way

  • I think the interesting ones are unanswerable you know when they're

  • really difficult and there's no quite 100% satisfactory ending your answer to

  • it well we knew we needed something for the audience to be on board with Carl's

  • journey you know he goes on this really pretty wild fantastic thing of floating

  • his house down to South America and so you really need to be on board with that

  • emotionally not just intellectually and so Bob wrote the scene which initially

  • was a series of small very short scenes of little snippets of the two of them

  • discussing what their for dinner or fixing the car or whatever

  • little scenes and then we gave it to Ronnie del Carmen who is our head of

  • story who boarded it and I think initially he boarded it just the way we

  • wrote it but I remember him saying something about you know this would play

  • really great with no dialogue and we eventually tried that and once we did we

  • just went all the way let's take all sound effects out and nothing but just

  • music and to me it sort of brought to mind a lot of us grew up with our

  • parents taking home movies of us you know super 8 movies and there's

  • something very emotional about watching those and all you hear is the flicker of

  • the projector and you're sort of drawn in trying to imagine what what's mom

  • talking about there and you know what happened right after that one dad cut

  • and so it was kind of a fee that feeling that we were trying to get you know we

  • did skew very and sort of emotional and we did skew toward toward the farcical

  • and for me it was partly because Carl was going on a journey that a little

  • girl had conjured in her younger days she wanted to go to this this place and

  • in Paradise Falls and you know talking dogs and and in giant birds you know

  • there's sort of our little girl's fantasy and that's one thing that I

  • always kind of liked about that but you know I do I do think we did keep the

  • emotional alive we were after Ellie passed away we try to think what

  • talismans we could keep to make it feel like she was there almost guiding this

  • and so the symbolism of the house her picture the adventure book the grape

  • the you know the grape soda it all sort of kept her alive and then that's my

  • favorite thing that adventure book the fact that it means her sort of quest for

  • adventure at the beginning but then at the very end it's her giving him wisdom

  • of what he can do with his life that same object does two different things

  • and I really loved that we discovered early on that the story we were telling

  • was basically about what real adventure in life is and you know how also often

  • we think of adventure as travel to exotic places and seeing fantastic

  • creatures and sights that no one else has seen and really what Karl comes to

  • discover is that the thing that adventure really is

  • is this wonderful relationship that he had with his wife and so even though he

  • not he never got the former he definitely had the the latter and we

  • needed to show that in the movie

  • hey everyone thanks for watching if you're an aspiring screenwriter I have

  • something really cool for you so my friend Tyler Mari has created a Facebook

  • group specifically for screenwriters in this group we brainstorm ideas we give

  • and receive feedback and we learn about the writing process together it's

  • extremely beneficial and it's completely free so I highly recommend that you join

  • it I'm a moderator over there so I will see you there as always if you have a

  • film or TV show that you'd like me to make a video on just comment it down

  • below I'll see you guys next week as we take another look behind the curtain

Hey everyone this is a special episode of Behind The Curtain in honor of

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