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  • - [Joanna] So you just traded in your dirty old phone.

  • (tape zipping) (bell dinging)

  • It's now part of the $64.5 billion secondhand phone market.

  • In 2022, 73.5 million used

  • and refurbished phones were shipped in North America alone.

  • It's an exploding business, and that's because phone makers

  • and the cellular carriers have pushed us all to.

  • - Trade in. - Trade in.

  • - Trade in. - Trade it for something new

  • that suits your life now.

  • - But who's winning and losing in this booming market?

  • When I asked the carriers

  • and Apple to show me where the phones go

  • and if and how they make money on them,

  • they wouldn't speak about specifics.

  • That's why I came here to a warehouse

  • in the middle of New Jersey.

  • Every week, this facility owned by US Mobile Phones

  • receives tens of thousands of devices,

  • primarily Apple from cellular carriers.

  • - So this is three pallets that just came in

  • and it should be around 3,000 iPhones.

  • - The company then sells those phones.

  • Some go to wholesalers in other countries,

  • others get cleaned up,

  • put through the refurbished process and sold

  • to individual buyers on sites like Amazon or Back Market,

  • a popular refurbished phone marketplace.

  • We got an iPhone 11.

  • - This one's a great example

  • 'cause it's still kind of dirty.

  • - [Joanna] Yep, I picked out that 128-gigabyte iPhone 11

  • to track the cycle and how it goes

  • from arriving here with a trade-in value

  • of $200 to leaving here with a price tag of $350.

  • To understand, we have to go through the refurbish process.

  • The first stop for our iPhone 11: data erasure and triage.

  • - We take the phones, we start connecting them over here

  • to these computers that are all running special software

  • to remove any potential customer information

  • from the devices.

  • - [Joanna] After that, the phone is put to the test.

  • Well, many tests.

  • You can't sell a phone that doesn't work.

  • - [Sammy] Nice and white, no shadows.

  • Now checking the reds.

  • We're good status there, right?

  • So you take a screenshot,

  • now hit the slide switch up and down.

  • Say cheese.

  • - [Joanna] That obviously does not look good.

  • - [Sammy] That's 'cause of you.

  • We're not gonna blame the phone for that.

  • Say cheese. (camera snapping)

  • (phone beeping) - [Joanna] Ooh.

  • - [Sammy] So that was it checking speaker.

  • On the front over here, it's checking flesh.

  • You see the light on my hands?

  • So you can say yes, it's on.

  • - [Joanna] I'm really not good at this.

  • - [Sammy] It's okay. It's day one.

  • You're doing pretty good.

  • The devices now do a test call.

  • - [Joanna] Success. Our iPhone 11 passed all the tests.

  • The next step, cleaning.

  • - Toothbrush, plastic peg,

  • microfiber cloth, foam sponges, hand sanitizer.

  • (tranquil music)

  • - Looks nice and clean.

  • After that, it's onto grading where someone looks

  • over the device and assigns it a grade

  • so they know how to price it.

  • - [Sammy] Gonna look at the front glass, the housing,

  • the back glass, if there's any scratches.

  • - [Joanna] Success again, our device got an A.

  • And the final stop, kitting.

  • - We're gonna take this and put it into a kit box

  • so that we can get this shipped out to our customer.

  • - [Joanna] US Mobile Phones has a sister company

  • called Back in the Box,

  • which is responsible for selling refurbished phones directly

  • to consumers on sites like Amazon and Back Market.

  • Before the phone is shipped, the company packages it

  • with a charging cable and with lots of padding.

  • - Drop it. Drop it.

  • - I mean... - You could drop it.

  • - Our poor phone.

  • (Sammy chuckling)

  • (phone dropping)

  • Okay, so now it's ready.

  • But how much is someone going to pay for it?

  • Well, for some context,

  • Apple doesn't make the iPhone 11 anymore

  • but you can still buy a brand new 128-gigabyte model

  • for around $500 at some retailers.

  • Back in the Box obviously has to undercut that.

  • - Typically what we like to do is we like

  • to price refurbished products depending on the grade

  • between 20 to 30% below its retail price and generally,

  • that gives a good discount for the consumer

  • and gives us enough margin somewhere between 10-15%

  • to be able to have some money, have some profit to then go

  • and buy more inventory and support the business.

  • - [Joanna] On its website, Apple says the trade-in value

  • for a used, good condition iPhone 11 is $200.

  • Back in the Box told me it bought the iPhone 11

  • from a carrier for around $250.

  • Then after the phone was refurbished,

  • it listed it for $350 on Back Market,

  • which takes a 10% cut of that sale.

  • Back in the Box takes home around $65,

  • but that's not all profit.

  • - Put a ton of labor into cleaning that device.

  • There's also a charger in that box that we have to pay for.

  • There's also a ton of devices that came with that,

  • either had a bad battery

  • or at some other defect that we have to sell at a loss.

  • So we have to make enough profit

  • on the good ones to be able to absorb the hit

  • on the bad ones.

  • - So what did we learn here today?

  • Well, that there are more winners

  • than losers in this business.

  • The cellular carriers win when you trade in an old phone

  • and buy a new one.

  • Refurbished companies win when someone buys

  • a refurbished phone and consumers

  • and the environment win along the way.

  • - The downside is maybe to the stock price

  • of the manufacturers that wanna sell

  • as many brand new retail products.

  • - [Joanna] Perhaps, but even for Apple,

  • if all these phones end up

  • in the hands of more people, particularly

  • in developing countries, it means growing market share

  • and more people buying into the iPhone circle of life.

  • (Sammy singing in foreign language)

  • (Sammy chuckling)

  • - That's all I got for you.

  • - [Joanna] That's very good.

- [Joanna] So you just traded in your dirty old phone.

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