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  • Welcome to This Is Getting Old Podcast. I'm your  host Melissa B PhD and today we're going to be  

  • talking about what is the difference between  Alzheimer's and Dementia and Normal Aging. A  

  • lot of us have been home during the COVID pandemic  maybe you're interacting with your older relatives  

  • more than usual and you may be noticing some  memory problems and so what we're going to do  

  • today is talk about what are the top 10 warning  signs that you should look for if you're worried  

  • about somebody having an issue with their memory  so that you can get them in to a provider to have  

  • it checked out so the first question is what  is dementia and basically dementia is a broad  

  • umbrella term which means that there are a lot of  different symptoms that go into into this term for  

  • dementia and there are a lot of different things  that happen people are going to have difficulty  

  • with their memory they're gonna have trouble  with language typically you know nouns and  

  • naming are one of the first things that will see  them having issues with but also problem-solving  

  • and executive planning and executive planning  is the ability to kind of plan and execute an  

  • event whether it's recipe made forever or you know  what's the correct order to putting your clothes  

  • on so but Alzheimer's is a type of dementia and  it actually accounts for about 60 to 80 percent  

  • of the different dimensions that we see the  other dimensions that are most common are Lewy  

  • body dementia a frontal lobe dementia and dementia  related to Parkinson's but also vascular dementia  

  • so those kind of those types of dementia tend  to appear a little bit differently for example  

  • with Lewy body dementia you may see someone I'm  having trouble walking or falling more something  

  • where the frontal lobe dementia the frontal  lobe of your brain is kind of the stop sign  

  • part so these may be people that can't that they  don't have a lot of good impulse control anymore

  • and then somebody with vascular dementia typically  already has heart disease so you may have one type  

  • or you have may have a mix of things particularly  if you have like high blood pressure you've had  

  • many strokes in the past and you may have  Alzheimer's so you may have a combination of  

  • Alzheimer's type dementia and a vascular dementia  and at the end of the day for the most part these  

  • symptoms are pretty similar and so we're just  going to talk about the top 10 signs and things  

  • that you should look for if you're concerned about  somebody's memory so first one is that this memory  

  • problem needs to be significant enough that it's  going to interrupt this person's ability to take  

  • care of themselves every day so one of the most  common things and Alzheimer's is that you aren't  

  • able to remember new information so they're really  good with things that happened a long long time  

  • ago so that long-term memory is intact and so they  can tell you everything about their childhood but  

  • they can't tell you what they had for breakfast or  what you were just talking about five minutes ago  

  • so they may be forgetting important dates they  may be asking you the same information over and  

  • over or may be telling you the same information  over and over or you may begin to see then rely  

  • a lot more on memory aids and memory aid to me is  basically a compensatory strategy I have tons of  

  • them but basically this would be if you started  seeing sticky notes appear on the refrigerator  

  • you know don't forget to do this don't forget to  do that and as long as people can do that and it's  

  • working for them well it is a warning sign they  still have the ability to use those compensatory  

  • strategies so we need to let them do that versus  normal aging would be like you occasionally forgot  

  • somebody's name or you might forget an appointment  but you do remember it later so the second sign  

  • to look out for our challenges with problem  solving so this is when someone has trouble kind  

  • of developing a plan for work or an activity that  they want to do or they may have trouble following  

  • a familiar at recipe so the recipe they're known  for forever they may not remember it's two eggs  

  • or three eggs or have water how long I supposed to  cook it or they may have trouble keeping up with  

  • their monthly bills because I just don't remember  that they're supposed to deal with that or they  

  • may have a lot more difficulty concentrating and  it just takes them a lot longer to do things and  

  • then it did before versus you know with a normal  age-related change this might be someone who just  

  • has an occasional error in their checkbookkind of do that too sometimes so don't jump to  

  • conclusions just because one of these warning  signs might apply to you or your loved one the  

  • third sign is difficulty completing familiar tasks  at home or at work or even out when you're playing  

  • so sometimes people have trouble figuring out how  do I Drive from you know to a particular location  

  • someplace they've been a lot or how do they manage  their budget at work or maybe even remember the  

  • rules of a game that becomes more difficult and  that's different than like normal age-related  

  • change where you may need a little bit of help  with the settings on a microwave or you need  

  • help trying to record a television show which is  different than just trying to turn the television  

  • on so those are a little bit more complex tasks  that and if I go to my mom's house I still can't  

  • figure out how to use their remotes so again  yeah if they're in their own home and this is  

  • a new problem that you're noticing you just need  to be aware of it the next thing is confusion with  

  • time and place and so people with Alzheimer's  can lose track of what time it is again this  

  • is one of those things in the middle of kovatlot of us are probably you know having trouble  

  • keeping up with time and it's just because our  schedules and the calendars that we live and die  

  • by they just are in a completely different way  different saying right now this will be someone  

  • who didn't know that it was summer outside when  it's and they would tell you it's winter or they  

  • may be telling you as 1987 or telling youstory from 1987 when it's 2020 so they also  

  • may have trouble remembering how they got where  they are so those aren't that's another group of  

  • warning signs compared to normal aging you might  get confused about what day of the week it is but  

  • you know to get your calendar out or pull out  your iPhone you can figure out what day it is  

  • so lucky for all of us encoded you know we can  figure out what day it is the next warning sign  

  • is there they have trouble understanding visual  images and spatial relationships so let's break  

  • that down sometimes just having visual problems  is a sign of Alzheimer's they may have difficulty  

  • reading judging distances or determining color and  contrast and this also could cause them problems  

  • with driving this is different than having like  a true visual impairment related to either a  

  • cataract or glaucoma or some age-related macular  degeneration those are truly visual problems  

  • but the visual part of the brain is impacted with  Alzheimer's when you're young you basically have a  

  • hundred and eighty degree peripheral vision and by  the time you're 65 that comes in about 45 degrees  

  • but what happens with Alzheimer's disease is that  visual field gets smaller and smaller so by the  

  • time somebody's in very advanced dementia they  basically have like my eye or they have monocular  

  • vision that then goes down to binocular visions if  you were to put your eye call these your dementia  

  • eyeballs if you were to put those on and think  about if that was all that you could see you can't  

  • see anything on either side of you and you know  what I tell people with my work is it also means  

  • they can't see the plate that's sitting right  in front of them so in very advanced dementia  

  • this is when we would see people reach across the  table to eat somebody else's food and everyone's  

  • like but your food is right here in front of you  but you think about you'd have to look down to  

  • see that so we have to adjust them and we'll get  to that layer with advanced Alzheimer's this is  

  • right now what we're talking about is early signs  so the next one is having new problems with words  

  • and speaking as well as writing so this may you  may see this as somebody who's having trouble  

  • following a conversation or they be telling you  a story and stop in the middle of it and can't  

  • figure out you know what they were going to do or  they may tell you the same story over and over or  

  • they may have difficulty finding the right word  and typically this is a noun so they might be like  

  • you know hand me that you know thing over there  it's kind of a small thing you can talk on it to  

  • call people and you're late you mean your phone  they're like yes that's my phone so that kind of  

  • describing all around the nail it's called circum  Lucien so you may see a little bit more of that  

  • and the other part of that is in normal aging you  might just have trouble finding the right word so  

  • a little bit different when someone's beginning to  have memory issues so the seventh warning sign to  

  • pay attention to if someone made misplace things  or they may lose their ability to retrace their  

  • steps to find it so we've all misplaced things  before but typically you and I do this with my  

  • kids I'm like you need to retrace your steps and  figure out where you know where you were when you  

  • might have lost this thing what happens a lot of  times with with people with early Alzheimer's is  

  • they begin to get a little paranoid and so they  may begin to hide things like I'm gonna hide my  

  • purse or I'm gonna put my purse you know in this  safe place and then when they go to find their  

  • purse they can't find it and then they blame you  for stealing it so there's that's just another  

  • example of how they may actually put something  away but then they can't remember where where they  

  • put it and this would occur you know more and more  frequently over time versus you know normal aging  

  • is when someone kind of they misplace things but  they are able to retrace their steps and lucky for  

  • us you know we always find what we were looking  for in the last place we looked which I've always  

  • thought was the hilarious pun alright number eight  may have decreased or poor judgments and so this  

  • gets back into the decision-making piece so they  may not they may think they have more ability to  

  • take care of themselves than they actually do they  may have poor judgment when it comes to dealing  

  • with money this also makes them very susceptible  to scams because you know particularly if they're  

  • isolated in their home someone calls them on the  phone and they may end up giving them you know a  

  • large sum of money when because they just didn't  have the judgment to know that they were being  

  • scanned or you may see this as let less paying  attention to their own personal hygiene so they  

  • may stop showering you know brushing their hair  that type of stuff when they used to be a very  

  • well-kept person and that's different than normal  aging where you may make a bad decision every once  

  • in a while but you're you're pretty good with  knowing what your limits are ix sign is when  

  • people withdraw from work or social activities  so this may be someone that you know you just  

  • haven't seen for a while and in Kovach that's kind  of all of us but these folks would have begun they  

  • would have begun to remove themselves from all  their hobbies all their social activities any  

  • different projects or going going out of the house  and they may even begin to have trouble following  

  • like their favorite team and they begin to avoid  social situations because they are very aware  

  • that they're having trouble with their memory and  they're afraid that you're going to find out about  

  • it so the way this typically would show up for me  one of the parts of the brain that that remains  

  • intact is this ability to do we call social  chitchat so you can be sitting in yeah I can  

  • be talking to to an older adult and everything's  fine we're having the social conversation how's  

  • the weather yeah how your kids well blah and then  I say to them okay I need to begin to ask you some  

  • questions ask these questions of everyone do you  know what today's date is and they would fire back  

  • like in super angry mode like a over reaction  to what the question is but what I did is I  

  • just began to ask them questions that they feel  like I'm going to find out that they're having  

  • issues with their memory that's a whole nother  conversation about how to handle that type of  

  • behavior but this may be somebody that I mean they  can go through a doctor's visit for 15 minutes and  

  • have and act like everything's fine so this is why  it's hard for primary care providers to pick up on  

  • this and they need the history from the family  caregivers around some of these warning signs to  

  • help provide a full picture of what's happening at  home and how well they're functioning at home but  

  • again if you start we're gonna do another podcast  about how to actually communicate about this that  

  • you may not be able to sit in the room with that  person then tell that provider because it's going  

  • to make make your loved one mad and versus you  know for normal aging sometimes people they just  

  • don't have as much energy as they used to so they  may be more tired after a work day or after going  

  • to family and social engagements that they are so  very much socially engaged and then the top the  

  • last warning sign is changes in their moods or  personality and so this could be someone that's  

  • very confused they could be very depressed they  could be anxious they could be scared and then  

  • they can be they're a lot more easily upset  when they're out of places that are part of  

  • their comfort zone so prior to Coba this might be  somebody that lives you know in their home alone  

  • they can manage things pretty fine but they go  out to eat with the family and there's a lot more  

  • noise in that environment and they just have like  this explosive like moment and so okay those rapid  

  • changes in mood you know or even their personality  where they used to be really outgoing and now  

  • you know they don't want to go out and see anyone  compared to normal aging when people develop very  

  • specific ways of doing things and they can come  pretty irritable when that routine is interrupted  

  • so I had two thoughts want us you know people that  are in the middle of story and forget what they  

  • were going to say I think that could be you know  an ad D type issue and you know this have been  

  • very specific ways of doing things I'm like yeah  that could just be a OCD so again it really has to  

  • do with the big picture of that person over their  lifetime how well have they been able to do things  

  • and then you know as they age you know are you  seeing some of these these warning signs