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  • We have a lot of choices to make about our diet.

  • Add to that, doing the right thing

  • when it comes to preventing

  • and treating a chronic disease,

  • fighting a virus, or losing weight,

  • and suddenly our nutrition choices

  • can seem almost overwhelming.

  • Well, I’m here to help.

  • Welcome to the Nutrition Facts Podcast.

  • I’m your host, Dr. Michael Greger.

  • Today we conclude our two-part series on fasting and cancer.

  • And we start with a story

  • about how the benefits of short term fasting

  • translate in the clinical setting.

  • The first randomized prospective clinical evaluation

  • of the effects of fasting on chemotherapy,

  • the incidence of chemotherapy-induced nausea

  • and vomiting in cancer patients was published in 2014,

  • but the patients were dogs.

  • Cancer-bearing dogs presenting at a veterinary hospital were

  • randomized to be fasted for 24 hours before chemotherapy,

  • and those that were, were significantly less likely

  • to suffer from vomiting

  • only 1 in 10 compared to 2 out of 3 in the non-fasted group,

  • which is great, but what can that tell us about human medicine?

  • Evidently, not much.

  • It is nearly impossible to rely on most animal data

  • to predict whether or not an intervention will have

  • a favorable clinical benefit-risk ratio in human subjects.

  • For example, mice have a metabolic rate approximately

  • seven times higher than humans,

  • so a single day of fasting can cut lean body mass about 15%.

  • That would take over a month of fasting in people.

  • So that dramatic study on mice showing 100% alive versus

  • 100% dead on high dose chemo depending on whether

  • they were fasted for 60 hours, what can that really tell us?

  • And when it comes to cancer, rodents can bear

  • massive tumor loads, whereas people generally

  • waste away and die when tumor masses

  • reach just a thousandth of our body weight.

  • You can't even necessarily extrapolate from one rat to another

  • even within the same strain bought from different dealers.

  • The only way to see what happens in humans,

  • the only way to guarantee findings are relevant is to study people.

  • The theory is that combining fasting cycles with chemotherapy

  • could extend the survival of advanced-stage cancer patients

  • by both retarding tumor progression and reducing side effects,

  • or even providing an alternative to chemotherapy altogether

  • in early-stage cancer patients,

  • but that's all contingent on it being confirmed in human clinical trials.

  • First there were case series:

  • several patients diagnosed with a variety of cancers

  • elected to undertake fasting prior to chemotherapy

  • and shared their experiences.

  • Those who underwent chemo both with and without fasting

  • reported a reduction of fatigue, weakness, and

  • gastrointestinal side effects while fasting; in fact felt better

  • across the board with zero vomiting in the fasting group.

  • The weight lost during the few days of fasting was rapidly recovered

  • in most of the patients and did not lead to any detectable harm,

  • so overall was looking feasible, safe,

  • with the potential to ameliorate side effects.

  • But only randomized clinical studies could tell for sure,

  • and so here we go.

  • Breast and ovarian cancer patients fasting, starting 36 hours

  • before and ending 24 hours after chemotherapy,

  • and it did appear to improve the quality of life and fatigue,

  • but another study found no such beneficial effects.

  • There did appear to perhaps be less bone marrow toxicity

  • given the higher counts of red blood cells and platelet-making cells,

  • but no benefit when it came to killing off white blood cells --

  • the immune system cells -- so that was a disappointment.

  • Perhaps they didn't fast long enough?

  • They only fasted 24 hours before and after.

  • To find out the optimal duration, 20 cancer patients were split up

  • into three groups, fasting for 24, 48, or a total of 72 hours.

  • All those in the 24-hour group suffered nausea after chemo,

  • but less than half in the 72-hour group.

  • And most were vomiting in the 24-hour group,

  • but none in the longest fasting group.

  • Longer fasting groups also tended to suffer less nerve damage

  • and less serious bone marrow suppression.

  • Even after 24 hours of fasting, two cycles of chemo can

  • knock people's white blood cells down to sub-optimal levels, but

  • with 72 hours, chemo knocked their immune system down but not out.

  • OK, so short-term fasting may reduce chemotherapy-induced toxicity,

  • but what I want to know is if it makes it work better?

  • A systematic review of 22 studies found that overall fasting

  • was found to not only reduce chemotherapy side effects, like

  • organ damage, immune suppression, and chemotherapy-induced death,

  • but also to suppress tumor progression, including

  • tumor growth and metastasis, resulting in improved survival, but...

  • nearly all of the studies were done on lab animals.

  • The studies on humans are limited to evaluating safety

  • and side effects.

  • The tumor- suppression effects of fasting --

  • for example, its influence on tumor growth, metastasis and prognosis --

  • have not been evaluated until now.

  • To be continued.

  • In our final story we ask,

  • how might we replicate the protective effects of fasting with food?

  • Short-term food withdrawal during chemotherapy may begin to solve

  • the long-standing problem with most cancer treatments:

  • how to kill the tumor without killing the patient?

  • Short-term fasting -- for example,

  • for 48 hours before chemo and 24 hours afterwards --

  • may reduce side effects, reduce chemotherapy-induced toxicity.

  • However, the potential tumor- suppressing effects of fasting --

  • for example, its influence on tumor growth, metastasis and prognosis --

  • have not been evaluated until now.

  • No, actually, sadly, they mean "have not been evaluated until now,"

  • meaning they have not been evaluated yet, period.

  • So in answering the question to fast or not to fast before chemotherapy,

  • it should be emphasized that the evidence provided

  • by human studies is still very limited.

  • Some argue that reducing the side effects alone

  • could improve efficacy,

  • since patients could withstand higher doses.

  • For example, the heart and kidney damage associated

  • with the widely prescribed anti-cancer drugs limit

  • their full therapeutic potential.

  • It's not clear, though, that

  • maximizing the tolerated chemo dose would achieve

  • longer survival or better quality of life.

  • For now, I think we should just be satisfied with

  • the fewer side effects for fewer side effects' sake.

  • Some cancer docs urge caution, concerned about malnutrition.

  • That concern is echoed in official guidelines

  • on nutrition in cancer patients.

  • Because of the risks of malnutrition and,

  • yeah, maybe a day or two might not hurt,

  • but because patients might be tempted to prolong fasting

  • episodes without firm evidence of a benefit, they feel

  • fasting during chemotherapy cannot be recommended.

  • Fasting proponents agree that patients with severe weight loss,

  • muscle wasting or malnutrition -- probably not good candidates

  • for even short-term fasting.

  • But out of the hundreds of patients that have been tracked,

  • there's no evidence of severe adverse events in terms of malnutrition

  • or weight loss with short-term fasting or fasting-mimicking diets.

  • And those patients who did experience a weight loss

  • during fasting typically recovered their weight

  • before the subsequent cycle of chemo without detectable harm.

  • But look, even if there is a risk, we're talking about cancer here.

  • Accepting trade-offs is kind of the name of the game.

  • People are willing to put up with the risk of severe,

  • even life-threatening side effects all the time.

  • And even if it just helped alleviate some of the side effects,

  • it might be worth a try.

  • Of course, meanwhile Big Pharma is busy trying to come up with drugs

  • aimed at reproducing the beneficial effects of fasting.

  • Although fasting mimicking drugs may be preferred by patients

  • who would rather pop a pill than go without eating,

  • it will be years before they'll ever be on the market,

  • and it's hard to imagine drugs will be developed that are

  • both as effective and as safe as fasting.

  • So is there anything we can tweak in our diet

  • to get similar benefits without having to fast?

  • The way fasting works is by reducing levels

  • of a cancer-promoting growth hormone known as

  • insulin-like growth factor 1.

  • It's the reduced levels of IGF-1 that mediate

  • the differential protection of normal and cancer cells

  • in response to fasting

  • and improves chemo's ability to kill cancer

  • but spare normal cells.

  • How do we know this?

  • Because restoration of IGF-1 was sufficient to reverse

  • the protective effect of fasting.

  • Check it out.

  • Here's the growth of two cancer cell lines, breast cancer and melanoma,

  • in a petri dish after being exposed to chemotherapy.

  • Survival rates dropped down into the 60s or even 20s.

  • But the same dose in starved cells works even better.