Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles WHEN HE RULES NEXT WEEK IF ANNA MORGAN ENTERS THE GUILTY PLEA SHE IS EXPECTED TO ENTER. >> A RECOMMENDATION PHO HERFROM HAIRDRESSER. IT WAS AN ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL. I WANT TO BRING IN CHUCK HAGEL. SECRETARY, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU JOINING ME. AFTER YOU SAW THAT VIDEO, A FORMER POLICE OFFICER CHARGING A CURRENT OFFICER, WAVING A MARINE CORPS FLAG. HOW DO REPUBLICANS CALL THEMSELVES THE PARTY OF LAW AND ORDER AND NOT SUPPORT AN INVESTIGATION? >> WELL, STEPHANIE, IT'S REALLY ASTOUNDING. WHAT WE'VE SEEN, ESPECIALLY THE LAST FOUR YEARS IN THE VIEW OF MANY REPUBLICANS, ESPECIALLY IN CONGRESS, FACTS DON'T MATTER. I GUESS VIDEOS DON'T MATTER. THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS, THE REALITY IS THE REALITY. WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE IS REALITY. AND WHY THEY ARE SO AFRAID OF THE TRUTH, TO GET TO THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE POINT OF THE JANUARY 6th INDEPENDENT COMMISSION, INDEPENDENT OF CONGRESS WAS TO GET TO THE TRUTH BEHIND ALL THIS. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS, THE WORLD WILL SEE THIS PLAY OUT MORE AND MORE OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS MORE CASES COME UP FOR TRIAL AND MORE VIDEOS COME OUT. IT'S A DISGRACE TO THIS COUNTRY. >> BUT WHAT IS THEIR STRATEGY HERE? TO CONTINUE TO DOWNPLAY THIS, WE'RE HEARING FROM REPUBLICANS, PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT WING MEDIA, AND TO YOUR POINT, AMERICA HAS SEEN IT, WE WATCHED THE VIDEO. WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS? I JUST DON'T GET IT. >> WELL, I DON'T, EITHER, QUITE FRANKLY. I'M A REPUBLICAN. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS ANYMORE, BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND ITS LEADERS -- >> THEN WHY FIGHT IT? >> THAT'S ANOTHER STORY, BUT I THINK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND ITS LEADERS HAVE LOST THEIR WAY. YOUR QUESTION REALLY CON FRONTS THAT. WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? WHY ARE THEY ACTING LIKE THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN OR IT WAS JUST ANOTHER REGULAR DAY AT THE CAPITOL OR JUST REGULAR PROTESTING? THIS WAS UNPRECEDENTED, AS WE KNOW. SO WHAT'S BEHIND ALL THIS, I GUESS PRESIDENT TRUMP, I GUESS WHAT HE'S BEEN SAYING FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS, THAT THE ELECTION WAS FRAUDULENT, SO LET'S TAKE THE COUNTRY BACK AND RERUN THE ELECTION AND ALL THAT GOES WITH THAT, AND ALL THAT HE HAS BEEN SAYING AND HIS FOLLOWERS, I GUESS IT'S TO BOLSTER THAT ARGUMENT. I DON'T KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP CONTINUES TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, TO SAY THESE THINGS THAT JUST AREN'T TRUE. AND THEY'RE HURTING THE COUNTRY. YES, THEY'RE HURTING THEIR PARTY, THEY'RE DIVIDING THEIR PARTY, THEY'RE POLARIZING THE COUNTRY IN DANGEROUS WAYS, BUT I GUESS THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, THERE IS ONE THING THAT SHOULD BE THE GUIDING POINT AND THE COMPASS OF THE NORTH STAR FOR EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL. THAT'S AN OATH OF OFFICE YOU TAKE. YOU TAKE AN OATH OF OFFICE TO THE CONSTITUTION. THAT'S NOT TO THE PRESIDENT, NOT TO POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY. WEAVER WE'VE LOST THAT IN MANY WAYS. WHAT THE STRATEGY IS, STEPHANIE, I DON'T KNOW. >> I'M REALLY SURPRISED BY POLITICIANS BEING POLITICAL. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT VETERANS. YOU'RE THE FORMER DEFENSE SECRETARY. YOU YOURSELF ARE A VETERAN. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE LARGE NUMBER OF ACTIVE OR FORMER POLICE OFFICERS AND MILITARY VETERANS WHO WERE PERSONALLY INVOLVED, WHO WERE INSURRECTIONISTS THEMSELVES, AND THE LIST SEEMS TO KEEP GROWING? >> WELL, IT'S DISGRACEFUL, TO START WITH. THEY VIOLATED EVERY PREMISE AND EVERY COMMITMENT THEY MADE TO THIS COUNTRY -- >> WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? >> -- AND THEIR SERVICE TO THIS COUNTRY. I SUSPECT IT'S BECAUSE -- AND WE'VE SEEN POLLING ON THIS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. THEY'VE LOST CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IN OUR INSTITUTIONS AND OUR LEADERS. THEY HAVE FALLEN PREY TO THE CRAZIES WHO ARE OUT THERE SPREADING LIES ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT, ABOUT OUR COUNTRY, ABOUT OUR LEADERS. I MEAN, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S WHOLE FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE WAS ABOUT THAT, WAS ABOUT MISDIRECTION. I'M GOING TO DRAIN THE SWAMP, I'M GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE PLACE, EVERYBODY IS A LIAR. THE NEWS MEDIA IS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE, THE NEWS MEDIA. I SUSPECT THAT THEY HAVE FALLEN VICTIM TO BELIEVING THAT KIND OF THING, AND THEY THINK THAT THIS IS THE WAY TO CHANGE IT, TO RESURRECT WHATEVER THEY BELIEVED. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS, BECAUSE WE ALL SUFFER FROM THAT, BECAUSE IT INFECTS ALL INSTITUTIONS. LLOYD AUSTIN HAS GOT AN ISSUE OVER AT D.O.D. AS HE IS DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE, EXTREMEISMEXTRE EVERY INSTITUTION IN OUR COUNTRY IS DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE. HOW DEEP IS EXTREMISM IN THE BODY OF AN INSTITUTION? IT'S A SERIOUS CHALLENGE TO THIS COUNTRY. >> IT'S JUST STUNNING BECAUSE YOU WOULD THINK THAT VETERANS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE MOST GROUNDED PEOPLE WE HAVE ARE OUT THERE FOLLOWING A TOTALLY DISTORTED REALITY FROM A FORMER REALITY TV STAR WHO LOST THE PRESIDENCY. I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT POLITICS AND MINORITY LEADER MITCH McCONNELL'S STRATEGY. IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S GOING WITH HIS FORMER PLAYBOOK THAT HE USED WHEN OBAMA WAS IN OFFICE, BLOCK, BLOCK, BLOCK. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW LOCAL POLITICS WORKS, ESPECIALLY AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE?