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  • we also share a really weird background.

  • I studied mechanical engineering.

  • I actually worked at the Aerospace Corporation for two summers in Los Angeles before I actually took a bunch of finance classes at the Sloan school of Management for people that don't know, Tyler was also mechanical engineers.

  • Aerospace and you also, I think spent two years at the Sloan School of Management as well.

  • You know when you look back on those engineering days, what do you remember?

  • Do you miss anything about it?

  • You know, I know you were working for Nasa and all that stuff, What do you remember?

  • Wow.

  • So that's that, that question can get at the heartstrings.

  • Uh so the short answer is I miss it deeply, but I have managed to cope.

  • Um so I guess I'm just an engineer completely an engineer by trade, so as much more in hardware, aerospace, mechanical as you mentioned.

  • And so I think working at Nasa and be able to, you know, put vehicles up into space and meet all the astronauts and feel this like intense pride with your work is something you really just can't accomplish anywhere else.

  • So, I passionately missed that.

  • Absolutely love it.

  • But I don't have any regrets.

  • And the main issue is that when you're working on these large scale projects, um you know, I worked on the MARS crew module which might go land on mars and take people to mars in a few more years maybe, and that was actually in 2000 and 7, 2000 and eight, I was working on that.

  • So the time scales are just so much longer and then when you start getting in the software and now even a completely exponential world of crypto you can you know make changes life altering changes in a matter of minutes, days weeks and so that's really what kind of drove me more in the software.

  • But as a as like kind of a deeper engineer I do miss some of that analysis and working through that for sure but it's definitely evolved into something that I'm really equally as proud of and also just kind of solving some really large scale problems.

  • Which is exciting.

  • Yeah you're giving me flashbacks because you know when I was at M.

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  • We had a four year degree in mechanical engineering and one of the big classes was called to 70 where they give you a box of stuff and you have to build these robots that fight each other.

  • It became quite famous and I worked at Ford Motor Company for a summer.

  • I used to have a 68 mustang and when I was at Ford I was at the plants I went to the casting plant but I was working on like an emissions device for a crown vic that was going to be made six years from now.

  • And when I was at aerospace corp we were working on the Galileo space probe I think the high gain antenna wasn't working and it was out in space and we were trying to figure out how to get it working and like you said, it's it's cool doing real tangible things.

  • But the timescale is so extended compared to software let alone crypto what things can Blockchain where things can happen at a hyper accelerated rate.

  • So it is different worlds, right?

  • Yeah, very much.

  • But yeah, it's kind of like I said I I treasure and deeply value every minute I spent on the space shuttle program.

  • It really wouldn't trade it for anything else.

  • And all the other agencies I got to work through because it's really this this larger web.

  • So it's you know Raytheon and Northrop Grumman and Boeing and all the other contractors, Air Force, it's another really interesting composite work with them.

  • So it's like getting to see some of this more deeply and be a part of that like bigger mission.

  • I mean it's tough, right?

  • There's a lot of companies and you know um other corporations that have done well and have great brands, that great products and you feel that sense of pride.

  • But man, when you walk into like you know the secret like the security area as you're badging in and you're sitting here with like 20 years with the astronaut photos and the actual hardware and you're driving up and there's rockets outside that sense of pride and like all right, we have to do this is just like nothing else I've ever felt.

  • And so that was really, really cool experience.

  • Yeah, it's almost epic the kind of things you're doing.

  • I mean it's you know what's the biggest thing that human humanity has ever done?

  • Put a man on the moon right that most people would have to agree, oh and uh we we uh we only have an hour or so here but if we had about a day or so I strongly agree with that statement to such an intensity.

  • Um and just for a little bit maybe for other users, our viewers.

  • If you research what the effects of the moon landings, the Apollo program actually influenced uh it literally created all of Silicon Valley.

  • So everything we know about where it is, how it got built all the capital, all the other companies uh modern venture firms.

  • Uh most of the most valuable companies in the world, why they all came from literally stemmed from the space program funding.

  • Fairchild semiconductor founders then moved on even validating these M.

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  • Engineers coming from boston that all you did was go to work for Gpu didn't start your own company and you're just completely crazy.

  • They went out and did that.

  • No one else could rather products because it was the new transistor and no one had enough money and no one had the use but space program had lots of money to fund the exact thing that they needed in order to make it a success.

  • And so it's a long long rabbit hole very deep.

  • but I strongly believe that and that's actually probably the most significant thing we've ever done um As part of this humanity, wow, alright, I'm gonna think about that later.

  • I have never actually heard that thesis that the space program then created, you know that early, like you said transistor kind of VC vibe that then exploded into without the valley.

  • Um it's definitely a phenomenon, very geographic and time specific, but I hadn't thought about the space program pushing that.

  • Just think JFK making that speech that one day, right?

  • Just brought everything in motion.

  • Um then you wanna and then yeah, not to go to then what's even more crazy is that as supportive as JFK was of the entire program.

  • Uh he was actually going to cancel it because it was, it was behind schedule, it was costing more money, it was losing favoritism.

  • So he was, and this is all documented like in Smithsonian and there's like lots of literature around this, so he was literally going to cancel it and then when he got assassinated, it was then viewed as like, oh we now can't cancel this.

  • This is going to become like motivating a rallying, like even though it costs a lot more money, the cost actually lessened in the public sphere.

  • So it actually, you know, LBJ then pick this up and then now finished the program when it was actually going to be canceled.

  • So the weird serendipity around how this comes together is completely insane.

we also share a really weird background.

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    林宜悉 posted on 2021/11/25
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