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  • if you could go back and re cut, you're from, I guarantee you, you would approach it with the sensitivity of the wisdom and the confidence you go, why didn't I see that before?

  • I didn't believe in myself as a filmmaker the way I do now now I realize what is really valuable 35 years later.

  • What is the metaphor that you're making with this different version of the fight?

  • The Warrior is a warrior to the very end and though he may be defeated, he won't go quietly into that good night.

  • I just think you'd be great for him.

  • The rally.

  • So it is a complete slaughter.

  • Then you go off Apollo.

  • Creed did go down fighting.

  • He didn't go down being slut and now it is the Russians just standing there.

  • The Russian trying to intimidate cream and the right washing negativity creep.

  • Come on, put it together before Rocky could have stopped the fight and didn't this time he's dropping the towel, but that punch hits at the same time.

  • So as the towel drops, everything drops, his life drops.

  • He's just a second late.

  • Oh, Mhm Yeah.

  • Mhm Uh huh Yeah.

  • Mhm Yeah.

  • Mhm It's thank you.

  • Mhm.

  • You have to do again.

  • You wouldn't kill never if I if I had to do it over again, I never would have killed.

  • Absolutely not.

  • It was foolish.

  • I thought I needed that kind of springboard to protect the drama on a really great powerful velocity forward him in a wheelchair, he would assume the role of mickey and you know, now his physicality has been diminished.

  • We would have seen a different side of Apollo.

  • He could have opened up to all these other things that we didn't even know about because he's now in a wheelchair and he would have kind of like been a father figure, mentor brother been really great, like he would have been embraced by my family then you have his family to well what about that whole thing?

  • Yeah, it would have been, it would have changed the rockies, you would have changed the entire trajectory of all the rockies.

  • I mean there would have been Rocky five would have never happened and rocky says maybe never would have happened that way and creed.

  • Yeah, we'll create probably never would have been made when you were writing the script.

  • Is that the theme that was prominent in your head guilt?

  • Um not as much, not, not as profound, I thought it would be, I was thinking more of just a tail, like a great adventure and I didn't think of the ramifications like, okay, he dies.

  • It's like the death of a legend like Muhammad ali that it's like, it has profound repercussions.

  • I think the biggest problem I had as the younger filmmaker was lack of patience and confidence and extended the moment, I was always very cognizant.

  • Okay, ah the audience is gonna get bored, jump ahead instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt and let the emotions sink in.

  • I would rush right through it and now I completely see the uh fallibility and all that.

  • It's very frustrating.

  • It really is.

  • That's why I'm so happy to get a shot of this like magic.

  • Getting a shot to re edit your life is like go back and do things that you always wanted to do.

  • You know obviously you can't do that with everything, but that's the beauty of your film.

  • So I guess I didn't peruse all this stuff in depth and now I see I went it was all there.

  • So you've never seen this take?

  • Never since you shot it.

  • I've never seen this since 19.

  • Hey, hi, you can't win.

  • I heard you.

  • Adrian always tells it you can't win.

  • Yeah, Adrian who he tells it and the more I can mine out of this stuff.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • The more the audience is gonna take away something besides just a fight they're going to take uh we went through a journey, lose this, lose that and here we go, keep going.

  • This is where I'm gonna go from.

  • Mm hmm.

  • So I hit him, you cut around to this and you see me shuffle.

  • Let's go with the ball gets out of the corner now And now what's more is drago backing Rocky balboa up with a jab and balboa is not staying on balance because of the long Jack the Russians, Thank you, balboa gets out of the corner now and now what's weird is drago backing Rocky balboa up with the jab and balboa is not staying on balance because of the long jab keep looking up.

  • Okay, now this means more because you didn't see it before is the complete opposite of what the original was, where I take a complete beating.

  • This is like interesting people are not gonna expect this.

  • I'd like to optically blow this up about 10% and do this, see how it's coming in from this angle right now.

  • So you see him doing this, but then you see him coming in underneath.

  • Not good.

  • I wanted to be like that.

  • So it looks like he's coming from above, which he would, he's six ft five.

  • See what I mean right now he's throwing a punch here.

  • Which makes no sense.

  • Mhm Yeah, There it is.

  • Right away.

  • That's that's 100% better.

  • This is a morass of self discovery.

  • Kind of like a swamp the deeper you get into it, it becomes cinematic.

  • Quicksand.

  • Mm hmm.

  • And if someone doesn't pull you out, you're gonna, what do you feel watching this now?

  • I feel foolish.

  • I said, my God, it looks like the ship sails circus left town.

  • That's why this is a mixed bag of emotions right now makes me very angry, gratified.

  • But also angry that I didn't see it at the time.

  • But isn't that the conundrum of life?

  • It really is.

  • If I only knew then what I knew now there it is absolute right giving himself a true champ.

  • Happy man.

  • I really think that we nailed it.

  • We delivered the knockout blow.

  • I finally said what I wanted to say, I should have said 35 years ago that man, man, all of us are entitled to follow our dreams, to stick to our beliefs no matter what the consequences.

  • Because in the end that's or you have is the faith in yourself.

  • And if you keep believing in that eventually it will come true.

  • Yeah.

if you could go back and re cut, you're from, I guarantee you, you would approach it with the sensitivity of the wisdom and the confidence you go, why didn't I see that before?

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