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  • you know, last thing I wanted to just quickly ask about is this, you know, concept of freedom of speech, you know, you've been really big with your keep Britain free campaign and pushing forward with that.

  • Obviously we were really talking about it a lot last year, and people still question me is that is the, you know, future Mayor of London about, you know, whether I still believe in free speech, obviously, we've seen recently the government trying to crack down on protests and how people are allowed to protest.

  • How important is that freedom of expression, or even digital freedom of speech on a platform, even like this going forward, and how do people try to make sure they don't lose sight of something like that?

  • Well, it's the fundamental basis of our lives.

  • You know, if you haven't got freedom of speech and freedom of movement, then you're living under a total totalitarian government, So you're living in communist Russia or communist china, it's we're not there yet, but if we're continuing going down the path, and people say, well, you know, it's it's you're allowed freedom of speech, but, you know, allowed hate speech or you're not allowed certain types of speech.

  • Well, that's the whole purpose of freedom of speech, because if you're only allowed to say things that other people agree with, then you haven't got any freedoms, and you always you think people use the straw man argument, So, should people be allowed to say you should go and murder someone?

  • Of course, that's against the law?

  • You know, that's incitement to violence and nothing to do with free speech.

  • Um, but if if if people people can't realize it, I think because it feels as though it's the right thing to do to clamp down on certain types of speech, but you always have to ask yourself who is the arbiter, who is the person who says you're allowed to say this, or you're not allowed to say that?

  • Well, the arbiter is the government.

  • So the many of the government doesn't want you saying something.

  • So I had this.

  • You know, the government doesn't want me talking about whether there's a problem with vaccinations or not.

  • You know, maybe there is, maybe there isn't, Who knows?

  • But time will tell.

  • But if you're not allowed to express that thought, then the government has basically blocked you and knocked you down.

  • Now, what's going to be the next thing?

  • Let's say that you're not allowed to say anything about vaccine, passport.

  • Let's say you're not allowed to criticize the Prime Minister.

  • You know, it would go on and on and on and it never stops.

  • We've seen this with the lockdowns, you know, it was just going to be two weeks or it's just gonna be three weeks and we're 15 months down the line and now we're talking about vaccination passports, otherwise you can't move anywhere or go anywhere or go to the supermarket.

  • That's what happens.

  • It's piece by piece by piece by piece and at the crux of it.

  • And at the crux of the entire Western civilization is your basic freedoms, the freedom of speech or freedom of movement.

  • That's it.

  • Your freedom to live your life without interference from other people, providing you're not breaking the law.

  • It's that simple.

  • It's what all great societies were built on and all about societies that I'm talking about.

  • Communist societies.

  • We're all built on the opposite.

  • Yeah, if you look throughout history, I think Tim Kennedy who has been a guest on my show, uh former Green Beret and mixed martial artist and UFC fighter.

  • He just said, if you ever look back at history, whenever people are suppressing freedom of speech burning books, these always end in dark times.

  • They end in great devastation for the human race.

  • There hasn't been, I think a single example where it ends up working out really well for everybody.

  • Never, never in human history.

  • Never.

  • And like you said, we're not at the china levels yet.

  • But every time you go down those you go a little bit closer and it's again, those freedoms, the freedom to choose what you want to put in your body, right?

  • Or your choice to get something in your body, or your choice to put something in your brain or to speak something.

  • These are these are the basics and when a government or alphabet, a technology company which can be more powerful than the government starts to say that there's a real problem.

  • And freedom of speech is supposed to be uncomfortable because it's not, it's supposed to be, again, it's freedom of speech if it if it makes you feel uncomfortable and goes against what you think.

  • So when people advocate for freedom of speech, you have to be advocating for people saying things you don't want to hear and although it's uncomfortable in the short term and it might bruise your ego or make you even have to uh, make your own arguments better in your own head.

  • And I had a great discussion with one of my guests on London Rail that says, you know, the good thing about freedom of speech is you can make sure if you're sure you feel that way, because you actually have to actually back up your own thoughts.

  • Otherwise you walk around in a world where you say, oh, these things are all true and you never have to actually kind of get in there and mix it up.

  • And so it's important to have these difficult conversations and I'd rather have them out and open as well as opposed to some dark place on the web because people, people think these things, whether they say them or not, you haven't stopped people thinking that you might stop people saying that, but you haven't and you've just driven them underground.

  • Yeah, it's in a good place ever.

  • Yeah.

  • People ask me last year about some of my more popular broadcasts and I said, well, I had the second largest Youtube live stream in the world.

  • Clearly people wanted to hear this and no one ever wants to engage with that argument.

  • And it's like, you know, clearly people want to hear these ideas, they want to talk about it.

  • And so you think about that, you know, your, your 22 adults talking about stuff.

  • Yeah.

  • How is that a threat to anyone?

  • You know, regardless of the content.

  • And the content was actually just really nice.

  • You're talking about David of course.

  • But he's a lovely loving guy.

  • You know, you don't have to agree with what he says, but he's a genuine guy and that's it.

  • But whether you agree with him or not, it surely to God, you can't just shut the guy down because you don't agree with what he says or thinks he's way out there or something.

  • It's like we say, it's a fundamental to our society.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • Again, we had a relaxed conversation for 2.5 hours.

  • We never incited violence.

  • We never incited to overthrow of governments.

  • We just had a conversation by the way it ended up with, I suppose, saying, make your own choices.

  • Don't listen to us.

  • Act out of love, not fear and hate.

  • That's always the underlying principle.

  • Yeah.

  • That really controversial.

  • Yeah, I know I owe.

  • And I always I always trust someone that says don't believe what I say.

  • Make your own decision like that always makes me feel good.

  • So again, that's probably a whole another episode.

  • We'll talk about all this and then go into detail about that.

  • And we're making a movie about everything that happened last year.

  • So I'll get you into the premier as well.

  • Yeah.

you know, last thing I wanted to just quickly ask about is this, you know, concept of freedom of speech, you know, you've been really big with your keep Britain free campaign and pushing forward with that.

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    林宜悉 posted on 2021/04/28
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