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  • - Michael said, "Kobe, I'm not using my guy anymore,

  • "why don't you give him a call?"

  • Kobe says, "Well tell me about Grover."

  • And he goes, "Man, Grover really, really knows his stuff,"

  • but he goes, "But he's the biggest asshole

  • "you will ever meet."

  • One of the nicest things Michael's ever said to me,

  • because he didn't call me a asshole,

  • he called me the asshole.

  • Well if you're gonna strive for something,

  • never strive to be a.

  • A is a part of a group, the, you stand out.

  • [upbeat music]

  • Tim Grover, company is Attack Athletics,

  • title is Sports Enhancement Specialist.

  • Kobe Bryant's trainer from 2007 to 2012.

  • I've always admired Kobe when I was training Michael.

  • Everyone said he's the next one,

  • so I've always kind of watched him,

  • and saw him coming in and out of the United Center,

  • and so forth.

  • But in 2007, he actually called Michael,

  • and said, "Hey listen, my knees are absolutely killing me."

  • Because Kobe had came into the league when he was 17,

  • so he had had a lot of miles on his legs already.

  • People forget about that, that he came in

  • at such a young age,

  • and was playing at a very young age.

  • So, he goes, "You think you could help me out?"

  • I said, "I don't think I can help you out,

  • "I know I can help you out."

  • And he goes, "I'll see you tomorrow."

  • [upbeat music]

  • Once I got the medical history,

  • I talked to a bunch of individuals

  • that had been doing work with Kobe,

  • kind of getting what his regimen was,

  • what he was doing, how often he'd workout,

  • so once I got the resources put together,

  • I flew out to LA, sat down with him.

  • We started to go through the regimen

  • and the problem with his knees were,

  • he was basically doing too much.

  • This is a common problem that's happened now.

  • You have so many experts involved.

  • You have your trainer, you have your massage therapist,

  • you have your muscle activation guy.

  • Everybody's pulling everybody

  • in all these different directions,

  • because everybody wants the credit for the client.

  • You gotta get everybody on the same page.

  • If I need an individual to shorten

  • a certain group of muscles, or leave them alone,

  • and lengthen others, and then you're seeing something,

  • and you're doing the complete opposite,

  • that's never gonna benefit the athlete,

  • so when I came in, I told Kobe, I said,

  • "If I'm gonna do this, I have to be the person in charge."

  • I said, "You can continue to work with everybody,"

  • but I said, "I have to be in charge,

  • "I have to know everything that's happening,"

  • and then once we got everybody on the same page,

  • we actually decreased the amount of workload he was doing,

  • and cause Kobe is another one of the persons

  • that his biggest obsession was

  • to have more championships than Michael.

  • You know, if you were to ask him

  • when he was gonna retire, he would say,

  • "After number seven."

  • He didn't say, he never bought it in years,

  • because Michael had won six, so his goal was seven.

  • One of the biggest differences

  • between the two is, Michael always knew when it was enough,

  • and he would listen to you.

  • You know, if you told him that's it, that's it.

  • With Kobe, to him, that's it meant,

  • that's it for that moment,

  • but three hours later I can start back up again,

  • and he never really got out of that mentality,

  • which I don't blame him,

  • because that's what made him successful.

  • It's hard to understand that sometimes you need

  • to do less to get more.

  • So I get everybody in the room.

  • We pool all the information together,

  • and I don't come in and say, "I'm right."

  • Let's everybody understand what's going on,

  • and figure out how to cure this ailment.

  • Just like basketball is a team sport,

  • getting an individual healthy is a team sport.

  • [upbeat music]

  • When I started with Kobe, what did I have to do?

  • We had to rebuild the whole foundation again.

  • We had this super athlete,

  • who had all the beautiful things,

  • had the expensive kitchen,

  • had all the great appliances, had the cars,

  • but the foundation of the house wasn't taken care of.

  • What is foundation?

  • Foundation is solid cement.

  • It's solid brick.

  • You build foundation by lifting weights.

  • The fastest, quickest way to get an athlete stronger,

  • is through moving metal.

  • How can you have a sport now,

  • when you have so much more technology,

  • you have so much more resources,

  • less contact, and the, more injuries.

  • It's mind boggling to me.

  • It's because everything is rubber bands,

  • everything is resistance, everything is cable.

  • There's teams now in the NBA

  • that don't even have a weight room.

  • You still have to move iron.

  • It's the one greatest form of injury prevention,

  • because you do a compound movement,

  • it sends the muscles, and the electric stimulus

  • that goes into the body,

  • that cannot be duplicated by cables,

  • it cannot be duplicated by body work,

  • it cannot be duplicated by medicine balls,

  • and there's all the studies that are out there to prove it.

  • But, everyone gets back into sport specific.

  • It doesn't look good.

  • All right, it's too simplistic.

  • It is very simplistic, but,

  • you're building the foundation.

  • And this is nothing new.

  • This goes back to when they built the pyramids.

  • If you start adding pulleys and cables,

  • it's not true resistance.

  • When you play basketball, you play football,

  • you play baseball, you play soccer,

  • whatever you play, when you get hit,

  • when you jump, when you land,

  • there's no pulleys, there's no cables.

  • Your body weight is the meta.

  • You have to learn how to explode with it,

  • and you also need to learn how to land with it,

  • and how to stop it, and that's what metal does.

  • It teaches you to lift it,

  • but it also teaches you to put it down.

  • Accelerate and de accelerate.

  • With Kobe, everything was acceleration.

  • He had a Ferrari and a Lamborghini acceleration,

  • and he had a sub car performance brakes in it.

  • Here everyone talks about, you know,

  • well how fast can a person go

  • from one end to the court to the other?

  • Well I wanna know how quickly a person can go

  • from one end to the other,

  • and stop on a certain particular point.

  • I need you to be able to de accelerate,

  • so what he had, he had a major imbalance

  • between the muscles that accelerated,

  • and the muscles that de accelerated,

  • and that was causing the issues on his knees.

  • So what we had to do was,

  • for all your years, you've been shortening muscles,

  • because that's what most training does.

  • It's a contraction of a muscle.

  • So we put a whole new regimen into his program,

  • where everything was lengthening of the muscle,

  • to lengthen, lengthen, lengthen.

  • So there's three types of contractions that you have.

  • You have the isometric contraction,

  • which is static, where the contraction doesn't move.

  • You have the concentric contraction,

  • which is a shortening of the muscle,

  • and you have the eccentric contraction,

  • which is the lengthening of the muscle.

  • We totally took the concentric phase

  • out of his training, totally.

  • Very difficult to do because the way

  • to overload a muscle through an eccentric phase,

  • you're stronger on a lengthening of a muscle

  • than you are on a shortening of a muscle.

  • Let's take a simple leg press movement.

  • Most people when they do it,

  • you have the weights setup, and you push out,

  • and you bring the weight back.

  • I wouldn't allow him to push out.

  • We would literally have two or three of us,

  • we would push the weight out,

  • have him place his feet on there,

  • and just have him come bring the weight back slowly.

  • We were able to create a more of a space

  • in between his knees, so there was less friction there,

  • so if you had less friction,

  • the chondromalacia, and the different,

  • the tendonitis and the stuff that was happening on his knees

  • was starting to get alleviated.

  • We were able to identify all that

  • with the rest of his team, and everybody started

  • to work on concentrating on lengthening everything,

  • and lengthening is so much more painful than shortening,

  • but the one thing you know about Kobe,

  • this guy's pain tolerance was off the charts.

  • [upbeat music]

  • People always say, you should have posted more

  • of Kobe's workouts on social media.

  • I said, "If I posted Kobe's workouts on social media,

  • "we'd literally be posting something four times a day."

  • That's how focused he was in his pursuit of excellence,

  • and his pursuit of championships.

  • Kobe was like, everyone said you won the championships

  • because of Shaq, but when Shaw was traded to Miami,

  • Kobe wanted to prove that he could win not one championship,

  • he could win multiple championships without Shaq,

  • and that's when I was there.

  • Kobe wanted that pressure,

  • so he knew he had to become more effective,

  • he had to get his teammates involved.

  • Kobe was as hard on his teammates as Michael was.

  • He was just as hard, and as competitive, in practice.

  • Everybody watched films of the current players.

  • Kobe would tell these guys to get film

  • of players going way back.

  • Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Pete Maravich.

  • He goes, "I wanna see what those guys did

  • "to be successful."

  • A lot of people don't know this,

  • is Kobe knew four or five languages very fluently.

  • I'm talking about fluently.

  • Obviously English, Italian, Spanish,

  • and I know he had started working on like Mandarin.

  • I mean those aren't easy languages.

  • I mean, I'm talking about fluent,

  • like he could have a conversation

  • with individuals in those languages.

  • Pau Gasol was one of his teammates, the Spaniard,

  • so they would communicate on the court in Spanish,

  • so the other team wouldn't know

  • what they were talking about.

  • And the reason he ended up learning Mandarin so well,

  • is because he saw the explosion in China basketball

  • before everybody else did.

  • So he goes, "How can I endear myself

  • "to this culture even more?"

  • He says, "Yeah okay, a lot of players just go over there,

  • "but what if I can give a press conference

  • "in their language?"

  • You know, the greats, they show up early, they stay late.

  • There's times where you'll see Kobe

  • and the athletic trainer throw a towel over the finger,

  • yank it back, and go right back in the game,

  • because Kobe doesn't wanna miss that time.

  • Same thing with his shoulder,

  • when he's had it dislocated shoulder.

  • They just, you pop it right back into place.

  • The last play when he tore his achilles,

  • every other player in the league,

  • you'd have had your teammates carry you off.

  • He not only gets up, walks to the free throw line,

  • makes two free throws,

  • then goes over to the bench,

  • and asks if you can pull it, and tape it down,

  • so I can finish the game.

  • [upbeat music]

  • It was the start of

  • the USA Basketball Olympic training in Vegas.

  • We had just stopped training,

  • because the season had just ended,

  • and then the Olympics were coming up,

  • and he goes, "I wanna implement cycling in my training."

  • I'm like, all right.

  • So I'm thinking, stationary biking,

  • in a health club or something.

  • He goes, "No, I wanna incorporate cycling."

  • So I said all right.

  • So we get into Vegas, so I'm like, okay,

  • so I'm looking at all the different paths

  • that we can go to, so,

  • because I knew I'm gonna have to get on the bike with him.

  • There's gonna be security, there's gonna be myself,

  • there'll be a Nike rep, and there'll be Kobe on the bike,

  • so I gotta figure out a path.

  • I'm thinking about basketball, change of speed,

  • slow, stop, so I gotta find the right hills

  • that go up and down.

  • I gotta know the path of when he's gonna accelerate

  • and de accelerate.

  • I didn't know anything about Vegas,

  • so talking to different people,

  • talking to the concierge at the hotel,

  • talking to the different rental car companies,

  • and saying, "What are the best roads to go for,

  • "where the desert is."

  • Then I'm like, okay, where am I gonna get four bicycles

  • in the next 48 hours that are gonna fit individuals

  • from six-five, six-six, all the way down

  • to somebody who's five-eight?

  • So I had Nike get in touch with some people

  • on their cycling team, and then said okay,

  • then they made arrangements to have bikes sent

  • to the hotel.

  • Miscalculated something.

  • I forgot to tell them to put the bikes together.

  • So, the night before, myself and the rest of Kobe's staff

  • were literally putting the bikes together,

  • because what time's the ride?

  • 4:30 in the morning.

  • He wants to be out there before the sun comes up,

  • and then he wants to take a break,

  • and ride back when the sun's at its peak.

  • If I'm gonna do this, I wanna be

  • in the most uncomfortable temperature,

  • environment, out there.

  • If you're gonna ride, you're gonna ride.

  • A couple players had heard about this,

  • and the next day, they were like,

  • yeah, we wanna go with you.

  • I was like, "No you don't."

  • Said, "You do not wanna go."

  • And that was part of his regimen

  • while we were in Vegas the whole time.

  • Every other day we went on these, these rides.

  • When you have those clients that are that obsessed

  • with getting better, they're just not doing something

  • just to be doing it.

  • They're not going on a bike ride,

  • just to go on a bike ride.

  • There's a purpose behind it,

  • and you have to have a plan with that purpose.

  • You just had to be a little creative,

  • and you had to be able to have a client

  • that trusted in your abilities enough

  • to say, "Hey, this is going to work."

  • So, Mike Procopio, who worked with me,

  • he's one of the best basketball minds I have ever met,

  • he would breakdown film to like the microsecond.

  • He would be like, "Okay,"

  • he's playing any particular opponent,

  • he goes, "This person has a tendency

  • "for their performance to drop off after six minutes,"

  • so that would allow me to set the training program up,

  • so Kobe would peak, start to peak

  • at when this guy was coming down,

  • so he could take advantage

  • of that lack two minute time in there.

  • I could incorporate it into Kobe's training,

  • where without even having to think about it,

  • he would automatically know that,

  • I see this player starting to lag a little bit,

  • and all of a sudden, this is when he would start taking off.

  • There's certain training methods

  • that you can do, where you could maximize

  • a person's oxygen capacity,

  • so you can deprive oxygen to a certain point,

  • and this was way before,

  • you know when people have the masks,

  • they had the training masks?

  • I used to have individuals sprint back and forth

  • with snorkels in their mouth.

  • You can't get as much oxygen through a snorkel,

  • and then during the time where you need it the most,

  • take a snorkel off, more oxygen,

  • more red blood cells are recruited,

  • and now all the sudden you have that burst of energy.

  • You know, you can't always train in altitude,

  • but there's way of creating the same effect.

  • People always say, like, I lack the tools.

  • You don't lack the tools, you lack the creativity.

  • [upbeat music]

  • There's a great story about him.

  • At age 17 he gets drafted,

  • and people know that when you get drafted

  • in whatever sport, somebody usually throws

  • this big draft party for you.

  • Kobe gets drafted, no draft party, no celebration.

  • He goes and works out.

  • He goes to the gym, and works out.

  • After he got drafted.

  • He did his little interviews and so forth.

  • Go to the gym.

  • Kobe was always fascinated with animals

  • that were like known to be aggressive,

  • and a snake, the mentality of the venom.

  • The things people feared were more

  • of allies to him.

  • The mamba mentality is the black mamba,

  • which is the most dangerous snake out there,

  • so it's not like, you know,

  • he's not gonna think of a garden snake.

  • If he's gonna put a mentality together,

  • it's gonna be with the most venomous,

  • most dangerous individual out there.

  • The one thing about him I learned,

  • he was so gracious to the young guys

  • coming into the league,

  • and a lot of people don't know that about Kobe.

  • He would talk to them.

  • He would give them answers

  • that they just weren't ready for.

  • They didn't have that mamba mentality at that age,

  • and some of them never had it,

  • but he was trying to tell them,

  • "If you understand this now,

  • "it's the difference between an eight year career,

  • "and a 15 year career."

  • These guys, they set their records to be broken.

  • They wanna see the next generation excel,

  • they wanna see the next generation get better.

  • I have an expression, I have saying that,

  • when you shake the commissioner's hand,

  • congratulations, that's the end of your career.

  • It's not the beginning of your career.

  • That's the end of your career,

  • because now you finally exhale.

  • You're like, man all that, all those AAU teams,

  • all the high schools, now college, some college,

  • I made it.

  • Okay, and those are the individuals

  • that have the shortest careers.

  • The ones that are like, "I'm here now, what's next?"

  • And to see a 17 year old to have the mentality to say,

  • "No draft party for me.

  • "I'm gonna go workout."

  • That was the Black Mamba.

- Michael said, "Kobe, I'm not using my guy anymore,

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