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  • he was just in Philadelphia.

  • It's a hard city to play for.

  • You gotta bring it every year, or Philadelphia will eat you up.

  • Stephen.

  • How do you view when his leadership, after hearing these comments yesterday, Well, um, I think that it forces you to just dial it back.

  • Just a touch on Carson Wentz in terms of Carson Wentz presence in the locker room.

  • His on field play was atrocious last season.

  • We all know that they were the 26th ranked offense.

  • They had the 28th ranked passing attack, and he had a lot to do with that.

  • There's no question about that, but he took a lot of hits for an absence of leadership and inability to resonate with his teammates.

  • UH, unwillingness to get along with coach Doug Peterson, a connection to the higher ups like Jeffrey Lori, similar to RG three in the relationship he had with Daniel Snyder at that time, when Mike Shanahan was the coach in the nation's capital and he was bypassing Mike Shanahan, or so it was reported those kind of things that you were hearing about costs and wins Well, guess what?

  • That's not what Jason Peter said.

  • That's not what you know, a guys you know, like like like, uh, Malcolm.

  • And they used to be with the Eagles.

  • That's that's now New Orleans Jenkins.

  • That's not what he said, along with various others.

  • And so as you as you hear people to Chris Long's of the World.

  • Malcolm Jenkins, Jason Peters and others speak about Carson Wentz.

  • You're saying, Wait a minute now because whatever issues that may have existed between him and Doug Peterson, certainly that was not the case with him in a coach.

  • Which puts more of the onus on Doug Peterson, the now former coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, along with um Howie Roseman, the general manager for the Eagles.

  • It puts more of the onus on them because apparently whatever was going on with Carson Wentz, Max and those guys didn't fester into the locker room as it pertained directly to his relationship with his teammates.

  • And that's what we were wondering because if you remember, there was a time when the at least the reports were saying.

  • And although RG three had his own explanation and what have you, which is to be respected?

  • You had some people who had an issue with him because they felt like he had a relationship with Daniel Snyder, the owner for the Washington football team.

  • And as a result, he was dismissive of the Shanahan's of the world and others, even though, to his out of respect to him, he has categorically denied that things were ever that bad.

  • In the case of Carson Wentz in Philadelphia, you're not hearing that from any of the players you're hearing that it might have had a problem with him and the coach.

  • You're hearing that it might have had a problem because Howie Roseman and the coach might not have been on the same page when it came to Carson Wentz.

  • But evidently his relationship with the players were still enough.

  • Where they respect him because he's gone, Max and they don't have to.

  • They could talk about them.

  • They might not be able to completely excoriate him, But you don't have to be as complementary as a lot of them have been about him.

  • Yet they have, and that tells me that the relationship with him and his contemporaries it's not nearly as bad as people were led to believe.

  • Jason Peters has taken care of him here.

  • That's all that's going on and and before, I want to address that in a second.

  • But first, Philly was not the problem with Carson Wentz.

  • I've never seen Philadelphia take care of a guy more than they took care of Carson Wentz was.

  • It took Donovan McNabb.

  • That's what I'm saying.

  • Imagine if it was McNabb.

  • Are you kidding?

  • Please come on.

  • Like I thought at first when it was Pennsylvania, McNabb was all sour grapes, and I told Donovan that to his face on this show many times, and I teased him about it.

  • He was right.

  • He was absolutely right.

  • And history has borne this out.

  • Philadelphia took care of whence, unlike I've ever seen that town take care of an athlete.

  • It was not the problem, period.

  • Look when Joe Santa Look widow originally reported on this story.

  • Stephen A.

  • It was a nuanced piece.

  • He didn't come out and say bad, bad, Carson Wentz.

  • Like anybody, they're they're upside And the downside, right?

  • Carson Wentz wanted to lead.

  • A lot of his teammates did like him.

  • He wanted to be great.

  • He was tough as nails.

  • He had a high football I Q.

  • Although I didn't often see evidence of it.

  • But according to people around him, right, he wanted to address his problems.

  • Supposedly, at least, he paid lip service to it and be a better leader in the locker room if some of the locker room was alienated.

  • It was a nuanced view that Joe Santa Lok widow took on wets, however, part of that view part of the downside was that once wielded too much power on the team, and that alienated some players in the locker room.

  • They were scared and whence, you know, wouldn't really take accountability for the way he kind of changed things and wouldn't run Peterson's offense and all that stuff.

  • So there's some good and some bad.

  • Here's why I don't get affected in terms of my view of Carson Wentz's leadership.

  • Steven A.

  • It's really simple.

  • I look at how does the team respond when that guys on the field, how do they respond?

  • And we have a decent sample size of two different quarterbacks who weren't went at various times throughout his career with that team.

  • First Nick Foles, they went on a playoff run and won the Super Bowl with Nick Foles.

  • Now you can say, Well, they responded to once that year to we don't know if they would have won the Super Bowl.

  • Can't hold that against went.

  • But the following year they were dead in the water, five and six when Folds took over the team they caught fire.

  • Made the playoffs.

  • Beat that Bears defense at Soldier Field.

  • Almost beat Drew Brees.

  • You know, at New Orleans that was fools.

  • Look what happened when Jalen Hurts took over the offense.

  • They couldn't get anything done.

  • All of a sudden, the team responded.

  • The team responded to the backup more than they responded to Carson Wentz.

  • That tells me what I need to know about leadership.

  • It is not that Carson Wentz is incapable of it.

  • There are components of his personality that seemed to work, but he did not take accountability in the way that he needed to.

  • That's why his play continued to decline, as I saw in the second half of two seasons ago until he lost his job this year and Stephen A.

  • That tells me what I need to know.

  • The team responded to the backups better than they responded to him.

  • That's the problem with the leadership.

  • All right, Well, Carson once was 35 32 1, in his five years with the Eagles will see what type of leadership he brings this upcoming season to Indianapolis.

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First Take reacts to Jason Peters saying 'Philly was Carson Wentz's biggest problem'

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    林宜悉 posted on 2021/03/08
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