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  • JOINING US ON THE SHOW IS A "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST-SELLING

  • AUTHOR, AN ENTREPRENEUR, AND POLITICAL POWERHOUSE.

  • WHAT AN HONOR TO HAVE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE NOMINEE, STACEY

  • ABRAMS ON THE SHOW TONIGHT!

  • ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) STACEY, HOW ARE YOU?

  • >> QUITE WELL, THANK YOU.

  • HOW ARE YOU?

  • >> James: I'M SO EXCITED TO TALK TO YOU.

  • SO HAPPY YOU'RE HERE.

  • WHERE ARE YOU ZOOMING IN FROM NOW.

  • >> ATLANTA'S, GEORGIA.

  • MY HOME.

  • >> James: LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS PAST 12 MONTHS BECAUSE I

  • CANNOT THINK OF A PERSON WHO HAS WORKED HARDER FOR THE DEMOCRATIC

  • PARTY THAN YOU THIS PAST YEAR.

  • HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A BREAK?

  • BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE YOU DESERVE ONE.

  • >> I ACTUALLY DID GET TO TAKE A WEEK'S VACATION A FEW WEEKS AGO

  • AND IT WAS MARVELOUS.

  • >> James: WHAT SORT OF STUFF DOES STACEY ABRAMS LIKE TO GET

  • UP TO WHEN SHE'S NOT SAVING AMERICA.

  • >> THIS IS NOT SUCKING UP, BUT ONE THING I DID IS START AT THE

  • REBOOT OF DR. WHO AND GOT TO ENJOY TWO OF MY FAVORITE

  • EPISODES WITH YOU, AND I READ SOME BOOKS.

  • >> James: LOOK AT THIS!

  • THAT'S AMAZING!

  • I'LL TELL MATT, HE'LL BE OVER THE MOON.

  • I DIDN'T KNOW THIS ABOUT YOU, STACEY, YOU GRADUATED SPELMAN

  • COLLEGE WITH A MINOR DEGREE IN THEATER, WHICH IS WHY I ALWAYS

  • KNEW WE WOULD GET ALONG.

  • WHAT SORT OF PLAYS AND MUSICALS WERE YOU DOING?

  • DID YOU EVER CONSIDER A CAREER AS AN ACTRESS IS THIS.

  • >> I WENT TO A PERFORMING ARTS SCHOOL MY LAST TWO YEARS OF HIGH

  • SCHOOL AND DID LIGHTING DESIGN AND A LITTLE DIRECTING, THEN

  • STARRED IN A SPRING PLAY AT SPELLMAN AND MOREHOUSE, BUT I

  • DIDN'T GRADUATE WITH A MINOR BECAUSE I REALIZED I DIDN'T HAVE

  • THE ATTENTION SPAN TO BE AN ACTOR ALONE AND I WANTED TO DO

  • OTHER THINGS.

  • I JUST APPRECIATE AMAZING ACTORS AND ACTRESSES AND LOVE

  • TELEVISION AND FILM BUT COULD NOT MAKE IT MY PROFESSION.

  • >> James: IF YOU COULD HAVE ONE NIGHT ON BROADWAY, WHAT SHOW

  • WOULD YOU DO?

  • >> I WOULD LOVE TO DO IS A SHOW THAT WE DID WHEN I WAS IN HIGH

  • SCHOOL.

  • I LOVE "THE BOYFRIEND."

  • I THINK IT'S ONE TO HAVE THE FUN MUSICALS ON AN AMAZING SET AND

  • MUSIC THAT FEW PEOPLE GET TO APPRECIATE.

  • >> James: I THINK WE COULD GET THAT ON FOR ONE NIGHT.

  • STACEY ABRAMS AND "THE BOYFRIEND ."

  • [ APPLAUSE ] STACEY, OBVIOUSLY, IN 2020,

  • EVERYONE WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO POLITICS, IT FELT VERY ZONED IN

  • ON THE ELECTION, AND I WAS REALLY ALARMED WHEN I READ THAT,

  • IN 2021, AND I WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN MORE

  • THAN 250 VOTER SUPPRESSION BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED BY

  • REPUBLICANS.

  • WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS?

  • AND ARE YOU WORRIED THAT PEOPLE, SINCE BIDEN WON, ARE SORT OF,

  • LIKE, OH, IT'S DONE NOW, IT'S ALL OKAY?

  • BECAUSE THIS IS THE TIME WHERE EVERYBODY HAS TO BE THE MOST

  • VIGILANT, RIGHT?

  • >> IT IS.

  • I MEAN, YES, I'M WORRIED, BECAUSE WHAT WE SAW HAPPEN ON

  • JANUARY 6, THE INSURRECTION IN WASHINGTON, D.C. WAS A VIOLENT

  • VERSION OF WHAT WE'RE WATCHING HAPPEN IN STATE CAPITOLS ACROSS

  • THE COUNTRY.

  • WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS UNDO THE ELECTION BY SILENCING

  • THOSE THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH AND THAT IS BY AND LARGE COMMUNITIES

  • OF COLOR, YOUNG PEOPLE AND THE THE POOR.

  • SO MY WORK IS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT, NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE

  • IN THE UNITED STATES, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT DEMOCRACY

  • REMAINS UNDER THREAT AND THAT THE BEST SOLUTION, YOU KNOW,

  • BARRING A MASS AMNESIA OF THOSE WHO ARE ANTI-DEMOCRATIC AND

  • FORGET TO TRY TO STEAL THE VOTES IS WE HAVE ACTION BY CONGRESS.

  • THAT HR-1, FOR THE PEOPLE ACT, PASSED THE HOUSE THAT THE SENATE

  • VERSION PASSED BY AT LEAST SUSPENDING THE FILIBUSTER FOR

  • THE PROTECTION OF DEMOCRACY AND THAT WE PASS HR-4, THE JOHN

  • LEWIS VOTING RIGHTS ADVANCEMENT ACT TO PROTECT VOTING FROM HERE

  • ON.

  • >> James: THE VOTING SUPPRESSION BILLS THEY'RE TRYING

  • TO BRING IN, WHAT ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO?

  • >> SO, IN GEORGIA, THEY ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE AUTOMATIC

  • VOTER REGISTRATION, WHICH WOULD PUSH SO MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE,

  • ESPECIALLY YOUNGER PEOPLE, OUT OF VOTER REGISTRATION.

  • THEY'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE NO EXCUSES ABSENTEE BALLOTING, THAT

  • MEANS IF YOU NEEDED TO VOTE BY MAIL IN, LET'S SAY, A PANDEMIC,

  • THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXCUSE OF BEING ELDERLY, IN THE

  • MILITARY OR DISABLED IN ORDER TO USE ABSENTEE BALLOTING.

  • BUT THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO END EARLY VOTING.

  • THAT WAS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE PEOPLE NEEDED TO BE ABLE

  • TO VIOLATE SAFELY AND SECURELY AND IF THEY HAD TO GO IN PERSON,

  • EARLY VOTING MEANT PEOPLE WEREN'T CROWDING INTO THE SAME

  • PRECINCT ON THE SAME DAY IN NOVEMBER AND HAD A FEW WEEKS TO

  • GET IT DONE.

  • UNFORTUNATELY, THIS REPUBLICAN ETHOS IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE

  • THE RIGHT TO VOTE EXCEPT ONE DAY AND LIMITS AND BARRIERS OF WHO

  • GETS TO BE THERE.

  • >> James: DO YOU EVER CROSS PATHS WITH SOME OF THE

  • REPUBLICANS WHO YOU KNOW ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO DO THIS IN

  • CORRIDORS OR BIG CEREMONIES OR MEETINGS?

  • WHAT ARE THOSE MOMENTS LIKE?

  • >> WELL, I DON'T GO OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW.

  • >> James: SURE.

  • BT DURING MY TIME IN THE LEGISLATURE, I FOUGHT MANY OF

  • THESE BILLS.

  • IN FACT, THE PRIMARY PROPONENT IN THE HOUSE'S NAME IS BARRY

  • FLEMING IS MOST WELL KNOWN IN THE VOTER SUPPRESSION CIRCLES

  • FOR HAVING DEPUTY SHERIFFS FOLLOW BLACK MEN HOME TO SCARE

  • THEM OUT OF VOTING.

  • HE WAS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND HE BASICALLY SAID THIS IS AN

  • OKAY THING TO DO.

  • HE HAS BEEN PROPOSING LIMITS AND RESTRICTIONS ON VOTING FOR AS

  • LONG AS I'VE KNOWN HIM AND IT IS A HARD THING TO WORK WITH

  • SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT YOUR COMMUNITY SHOULD BE

  • HEARD IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

  • >> James: SO HOW DO YOU STAY DIGNIFIED IN THOSE MOMENTS?

  • >> WELL, YOU REMEMBER THAT YOU HAVE TO LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER

  • DAY.

  • I ALWAYS FOCUS ON THE FIGHT AND NOT THE PERSON.

  • I USE, YOU KNOW, PROFANE LANGUAGE IN MY HEAD BUT NOT OUT

  • LOUD.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, I

  • REMEMBER THAT THE POINT OF THIS IS NOT SO ANY ONE PERSON CAN WIN

  • AN ELECTION, IT'S ABOUT BUILDING A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS EVERY

  • ELIGIBLE VOTER TO BE HEARD, AND THAT REQUIRES PATIENCE, IT

  • REQUIRES SOMETIMES COMPROMISE, ALTHOUGH I DO NOT BELIEVE THE

  • COMPROMISE IS NECESSARY IN THIS SPACE BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING

  • NOW IS NOT JUST VOTER SUPPRESSION, IT'S A RETURN TO

  • THE JIM CROW ERA, WHEN THE LIMITS ON ACCESS TO VOTING WERE

  • INTENTIONALLY TARGETED AT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

  • AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN GEORGIA IS HAPPENING IN ARIZONA TO

  • LATINO AND NATIVE AMERICANS, IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TO YOUNG VOTERS

  • AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IT'S ANTITHETICAL TO WHO WE SAY WE

  • ARE AS A NATION.

  • I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF ANGER.

  • I HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED AND DETERMINED ON FIXING THE

  • PROBLEMS.

  • >> James: THE BIG NEWS IN WASHINGTON De' IS ALL ABOUT

  • THE COVID RELIEF BILL WITH A LOT OF ATTENTION ON THE $15 MINIMUM

  • WAGE INCREASE.

  • WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS?

  • I FEEL THIS IS A HUGE MISTAKE TO NOT INCLUDE IT.

  • WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

  • >> I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR AMERICA IF WE COULD INCLUDE

  • IT, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY OF GETTING THIS PACKAGE

  • THROUGH WITH THE VOTES NECESSARY THAT THE THAT THE $1.9 TRILLION

  • IS SO ESSENTIAL TO SUSTAINING IN THIS MOMENT, I DON'T THINK WE

  • SHOULD GIVE UP ON THE $15 MINIMUM WAGE.

  • I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION AND DISGUST, BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE

  • ARE PEOPLE IN MY STATE AND ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE SO

  • DESPERATE FOR RELIEF THAT WE'VE GOT TO GET DONE WHAT WE CAN NOW

  • BUT IF WE PROTECT THE RIGHT TO VOTE WE CAN COME BACK AND GET

  • THE NEXT THING DONE.

  • >> James: TRUMP APPEARED AT THE THE C-PAC EVENT AND GAVE A

  • SPEECH ALLUDING TO A 2024 RUN FOR PRESIDENTY.

  • COULD THIS BE A REAL CONCERN FOR DEMOCRATS?

  • >> I DON'T CARE WHAT THAT MAN DOES.

  • THE FILM I PRODUCED "ALL IN THE FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY" IS HOW WE

  • CAN'T BE STYMIED BY ONE PERSON OR IDEA, THAT WE HAVE TO BE

  • FOCUSED ON OUR GOALS, AND OUR GOAL OF FULL INCLUSION IN

  • DEMOCRACY IS WE CAN'T GIVE THE ATTENTION THE FAILED PRESIDENT

  • WANTS.

  • THE EXTENT WE FOCUS OUR ATTENTION OPEN HIM AND NOT THOSE

  • WHO NEED OUR HELP, WE GIVE HIM EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS.

  • NOW I'VE GIVEN HIM 308 SECONDS MORE ATTENTION THAN I WANTED TO.

  • >> James: IT'S ALL ABOUT THE FYKE FOR DEMOCRACY.

  • HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS FILM TO YOU AND TELL US ABOUT IT.

  • >> THIS IS A DOCUMENTARY THAT I CO-PRODUCED STARTING IN 2019.

  • IT CAME OUT IN 2020 IN SEPTEMBER, AND IT WAS DESIGNED

  • TO DO THREE THINGS.

  • ONE IS TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT VOTER SUPPRESSION ISN'T NEW,

  • IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE THE START OF THIS NATION AND IT HAS BEEN A

  • PERMANENT STAIN ON OUR NOTIONS OF DEMOCRACY.

  • NUMBER TWO, I NEED FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO

  • ME IN GEORGIA, THE EGREGIOUS CAMPAIGN, IT PUT INTO SHARP

  • FOCUS WHAT HAPPENED.

  • I NEEDED PEOPLE TO KNOW IT DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN IN GEORGIA,

  • IT HAPPENED IN NORTH DAKOTA, IT HAPPENED IN TEXAS, IT HAPPENED

  • IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND FLORIDA, BUT NUMBER THREE, WHEN YOU KNOW

  • WHAT THE ENEMY LOOKS LIKE, YOU CAN FIGHT BACK AND THAT'S THE

  • MOST IMPORTANT PIECE.

  • ALL IN CAME OUT IN SEPTEMBER 2020 IN TIME FOR THE

  • 2020 ELECTION, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE ON PEOPLE'S MINDS BECAUSE

  • WE'RE STILL IN THE FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY AND FIGHTING AGAINST

  • VOTER SUPPRESSION, BUT UNTIL IT'S VANQUISHED, WE CAN'T GIVE

  • IN OR LET IT GO.

  • >> James: THE FILM WAS SHORT-LISTED FOR AN OSCAR.

  • YOU COME FROM A LARGE FAMILY.

  • IF THE ACADEMY AWARDS WERE HAPPENING UNDER ONE ROOF AND YOU

  • COULD BRING A FAMILY MEMBER, WHO WOULD YOU BRING?

  • >> I WOULD HAVE TO BRING MY MOM.

  • >> James: IT WOULD BE SO BEAUTIFUL.

  • I REALLY REALLY HOPE THAT THE FILM GETS THE OSCAR NOMINATION

  • THAT IT RICHLY DESERVES.

  • IT'S COMPLETELY BRILLIANT AS ARE YOU.

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