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  • ♪♪♪ >> Stephen: HEY, WE'RE BACK

  • WITH CNN'S CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT AND AUTHOR OF "ON

  • ALL FRONTS," CLARISSA WARD.

  • THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION LAUNCHED ATTACKS LAST WEEK

  • AGAINST IRANIAN-BACKED MILITIAS IN SYRIA.

  • YOU KNOW SYRIA WELL.

  • IRAN SAID THEY'RE NOT COMING TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE ON THE

  • NUCLEAR ARMS TREATY.

  • >> TRYING TO PUT HUMPTY DUMPTY TOGETHER AGAIN ON THE NUCLEAR

  • ARMS DEAL WITH IRAN WILL BE DIFFICULT.

  • I SPENT TIME IN IRAN.

  • THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT'S ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED AND

  • DEEPLY IMBITTERED.

  • THERE'S NO TRUST FOR THE U.S.

  • THERE HAD BEEN A DEAL BEFORE, THE U.S. DROPPED IT.

  • HOW DO YOU PERSUADE PEOPLE TO ENTER INTO THAT TRUST AGAIN.

  • SIMULTANEOUSLY, IF YOU'RE THE BIKES, HOW DO YOU SEND A STRONG

  • MESSAGE TO IRAN THAT THE SHENANIGANS IN THE REGION WITH

  • MILITIAS TARGETING U.S.

  • INSTALLATIONS IN IRAQ, KILLING PEOPLE WORKING WITH THE U.S.,

  • THAT THAT WILL NOT BE TOLERATED BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, EXTEND

  • YOUR HAND TO SAY WE WANT VERY MUCH TO TRY TO MAKE THIS DEAL

  • WORK AGAIN, HOW CAN WE GET YOU TO TRUST US AGAIN?

  • SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPLEXITY OF THE OPPOSING AND

  • DUELING NARRATIVES AND IDEOLOGIES AND MOTIVATIONS, YOU

  • REALIZE BOTH SIDES HAVE THEIR WORK CUT OUT FOR THEM IN TERMS

  • OF TRYING TO PUT THIS THING BACK TOGETHER, AND THE ONLY THING I

  • CAN SAY FROM THE SYRIAN PERSPECTIVE IS I JUST REALLY

  • HOPE THAT THE PLIGHT TO HAVE THE SYRIAN PEOPLE -- THE PLIGHT OF

  • THE SYRIAN PEOPLE WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.

  • WHILE IT'S NOT CENTER STAGE, IT'S VERY MUCH PART OF THE

  • BACKDROP OF EVERYTHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO RE-CREATE THE

  • IRAN DEAL.

  • I JUST HOPE AFTER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD AND TEN YEARS

  • OF BRUTAL CIVIL WAR AND AMERICA NOT PLAYING A SUPER PRODUCTIVE

  • ROLE, THAT PERHAPS WE CAN TRY, ALSO, TO DO SOMETHING TO

  • MITIGATE THE SUFFERING OF THE SYRIAN PEOPLE.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, CLARISSA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

  • HERE.

  • HER BOOK, "ON ALL FRONTS," IS AVAILABLE NOW.

  • CLARISSA WARD, EVERYBODY.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

  • ♪♪♪

♪♪♪ >> Stephen: HEY, WE'RE BACK

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