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  • ♪♪♪

  • >> STEPHEN: WELCOME BACK.

  • AS YOU KNOW, IT'S BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND THIS LAST YEAR HAS

  • CERTAINLY BEEN FILLED WITH BLACK HISTORY.

  • THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT AND PROTESTS AGAINST POLICE

  • VIOLENCE HAVE MADE A PUSH FOR MEANINGFUL CHANGE.

  • AND THEY'VE ALSO MADE MANY WHITE AMERICANS REALIZE HOW MUCH OF

  • THE BLACK EXPERIENCE THEY STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND.

  • AND, THANKFULLY, WE HERE AT "THE LATE SHOW" HAVE AN EXPERT IN NOT

  • UNDERSTANDING THINGS.

  • HER NAME IS BOOTSIE PLUNKETT.

  • SHE'S THE WONDERFUL MOTHER OF ONE OF MY FIELD PRODUCERS

  • JAKE PLUNKETT, AND SHE IS ALSO "THE LATE SHOW'S" OFFICIAL

  • "UNINFORMED CORRESPONDENT."

  • BOOTSIE HAS USED HER UNIQUE AND UNINFORMED PERSPECTIVE TO COVER

  • EVERYTHING FROM INTERNATIONAL TRADE WARS TO THE SPREAD OF THE

  • CORONAVIRUS.

  • AND RECENTLY, BOOTSIE WANTED TO GET LESS-UNINFORMED ABOUT

  • SYSTEMIC RACISM.

  • SO JAKE TOOK HER TO MEET WITH CONGRESSMAN JAMAAL BOWMAN, WHO

  • REPRESENTS NEW YORK'S 16TH DISTRICT, IN THE BRONX.

  • ♪♪♪ >> AFTER A TUMULTUOUS YEAR OF

  • RACIAL UNREST, I WANTED MY MOM TO GET MORE INFORMED ON RACISM

  • IN AMERICA.

  • SO I TOOK HER TO THE BRONX TO TALK WITH NEWLY ELECTED

  • CONGRESSMAN AND OFFICIAL MEMBER OF THE SQUAD JAMAAL BOWMAN.

  • >> SO YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF THINGS YOU WANT TO ASK MR. BOWMAN.

  • >> OH, YEAH.

  • I SAID, ALL LIVES MATTER ONCE, AND I GOT IN SO MUCH TROUBLE FOR

  • SAYING THAT.

  • >> YES.

  • SOMEONE SCREAMED AT ME.

  • YOU SHOULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT.

  • >> ALL RIGHT.

  • DO YOU WANT TO DO YOUR STANDUP NOW?

  • >> SURE.

  • FIRST TAKE.

  • OKAY.

  • HI -- >> WAIT, I'M NOT OUT OF THE SHOT

  • YET.

  • >> GET OUT THEN.

  • THREE, TWO -- HI, THIS IS BOOTSIE.

  • I'M HERE WITH "A LATE SHOW" WITH STEPHEN COLBERT TO INTERVIEW

  • JA -- NO.

  • >> ( BLEEP ).

  • AAAHHH!

  • MY LIFE.

  • >> YOU'RE DOING A BEAUTIFUL JOB.

  • HI, STEPHEN COLBERT.

  • >> HI!

  • YOU GOT A FAN!

  • I GOT A FAN!

  • [ APPLAUSE ] ALL RIGHT.

  • SHOULD WE GO AGAIN?

  • >> YEAH, IS YOUR HEAD GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIT WILL YOU THAT

  • DOOR?

  • >> SHUT THE ( BLEEP ) UP.

  • THIS IS BOOTSIE.

  • I'M HERE ON "A LATE SHOW" WITH STEPHEN COLBERT TO INTERVIEW

  • JAMAAL BOWMAN ABOUT BLACK LIVES MATTER AND TO FIND OUT IF I'M

  • RACIST.

  • ♪♪♪ HI, JAMAAL, IT'S BOOTSIE.

  • >> HI, BOOTSIE.

  • NICE TO MEET YOU.

  • PLEASURE TO MEET YOU, ALSO.

  • I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE HAPPY AND SAFE AND ALL THAT AND

  • I SAID ALL LIVES MATTER AND I WAS TOLD NO, NO, NO, NO.

  • >> HUH-OH.

  • AND I REALLY DIDN'T THINK I SAID ANYTHING TERRIBLE.

  • EXPLAIN TO ME SOMETHING WRONG.

  • >> SO ALL LIVES CAN'T MATTER UNTIL "BLACK LIVES MATTER," AND

  • THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO SAY BLACK LIVES MATTER IS BECAUSE

  • BLACK PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BE KILLED DISPROPORTIONATELY AT THE

  • HANDS OF THE POLICE WHO ARE SPOARDZ TO SERVE AND PROTECT US.

  • POLICE ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW, RIGHT?

  • SO IF THEY BREAK THE LAW, THRASHED BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

  • >> SO I'LL TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE.

  • SOMEBODY BACKED INTO MY CAR AND SMASHED THE DOOR.

  • SO I CALL THE COPS BECAUSE I HAD TO MAKE AN INSURANCE, YOU KNOW,

  • THING TO GET IT FIXED.

  • >> MM-HMM.

  • SO WHEN THE COMES GOT THERE, WE CHANGED THIS UP, YOU KNOW,

  • THE THINGS, AND THEY SAID, YOUR CAR AIN'T REGISTERED.

  • >> MMM.

  • THEY SAID, GET ALL YOUR STUFF OUT OF THE CAR, WE'RE GOING TO

  • IMPOUND YOUR CAR.

  • >> MM-HMM.

  • I ONLY LIVE TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE BANK.

  • SO I TURNED AROUND AND I TOLD THEM, YOUR MOTHER DID A REALLY

  • POOR JOB WITH BOTH OF YOU OFFICERS.

  • I AM AN OLDER WOMAN, IT'S 105 DEGREES OUT AND NOW YOU'RE

  • MAKING MEG GET OUT OF MY CAR, AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S NO

  • NEED FOR THIS.

  • >> ONE TIME, I WAS PULLED OVER ON THE GRAND CONCOURSE IN THE

  • BRONX BECAUSE APPARENTLY I DIDN'T USE MY TURN SIGNAL,

  • RIGHT.

  • I WAS PULLED OVER, GAVE THEM LICENSE AND REGISTRATION AND

  • INSURANCE.

  • THEY TOLD ME MY INSURANCE WAS EXPIRED.

  • THEY TOOK ME OUT OF THE CAR, PUT ME IN HANDCUFFS, AND TOOK ME TO

  • THE LOCAL PRECINCT, THE JAIL IN THE LOCAL PRECINCT, WHERE I

  • STAYED FOR ABOUT FIVE OR SIX HOURS BEFORE THEY LET ME GO

  • WITHOUT SEEING A JUDGE OR ANYTHING, RIGHT.

  • SO YOUR CAR WAS IMPOUNDED, WHICH IS A HUGE HASSLE.

  • IT'S LIKE A BIG DEAL, IT'S TERRIBLE.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU WEREN'T PUT IN HANDCUFFS, YOU WEREN'T

  • TAKEN TO JAIL.

  • >> NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.

  • YOU WERE ALLOWED TO GO FREE, AND IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS LIKE

  • THAT THAT HAPPEN EACH AND EVERY DAY TO BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE IN

  • THIS SOCIETY.

  • IT'S LIKE DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS.

  • >> YEAH.

  • AND THE WORST PART ABOUT IT IS WE BEGIN TO INTERNALIZE THIS

  • INFERIORITY ABOUT OURSELVES AS WE EXIST WITHIN THIS COUNTRY,

  • YOU KNOW, AND IT'S SO UNFORTUNATE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT

  • HEALTH CARE, HOUSING EDUCATION, WEALTH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

  • DISPARITIES, AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND PEOPLE OF THE LATINO

  • COMMUNITY ARE ALWAYS AT THE BOTTOM, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS

  • INSTITUTIONAL INSTRUCTIONAL RACISM THAT LIVES IN THE FIND OF

  • THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE OUR LAWS AND THE MINDS OF PEOPLE WHO WORK

  • WITHIN OUR INSTITUTIONS.

  • >> HAVING LEARNED ABOUT THE THE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS AFFLICTING

  • COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, MY MOM WANTED TO FIND COMMON GROUND THE

  • ONLY WAY SHE KNOWS HOW.

  • >> WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE SONG?

  • OH, I DON'T KNOW.

  • FAVORITE SONG?

  • SO I'M A BIG -- I COULD TELL YOU SOME OF MY FAVORITE ARTISTS.

  • CAN I DO THAT.

  • >> SURE.

  • O, UM.

  • KARIS ONE, ERIC B AND ROCK KIM.

  • >> I ONLY KNOW SOME SONGS BEING ON THE RADIO, CARDI B.

  • >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

  • I HATE TO SAY I'M GOING TO BE 62 IN MARCH.

  • >> OKAY.

  • I FREAKIN' LOVE THAT SONG.

  • MY ( BLEEP ).

  • >> IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE HIP-HOP SONGS OF ALL TIME.

  • >> YOU LOVE IT, TOO?

  • I LOVE THAT SONG.

  • IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE HIP-HOP SONGS OF ALL TIME.

  • FIRST, I LOVE CARDI B.

  • >> SHE DOES THAT LITTLE THING, AND THEN -- BACK IT UP!

  • >> I LOVE THAT SONG.

  • MY WIFE AND I LOVED THAT SONG.

  • MY WIFE INTRODUCED ME TO THE SONG, AND I THINK IT'S IMPROVED

  • OUR LOVE LIFE, AS A MATTER OF FACT.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> GOING FORWARD, WHAT CAN I DO

  • AS A PERSON TO HELP CHANGE THE SITUATION?

  • >> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO KNEELED IS WHAT WE CALL CO-CONSPIRATORS.

  • SO IT USED TO BE CALLED WHITE ALLIES OR SPEAKING UP FOR

  • JUSTICE FOR BLACK PEOPLE AND ALL PEOPLE.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • >> Stephen: BUT WE CALL THEM CO-CONSPIRATORS BECAUSE WE NEED

  • PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND BE ALLIES WITH US AND PUSHING BACK AGAINST

  • A SYSTEM THAT IS HARMFUL TO US.

  • >> EXACTLY.

  • SO WILL YOU BE MY CO-CONSPIRATOR?

  • >> I SURE WILL.

  • LET'S DO IT.

  • 369, DAMN YOU'RE FINE, SOCK IT TO ME, SOCK IT TO ME ONE MORE

  • TIME.

  • TO THE WINDOW, TO THE WALL!

  • TILL THE SWEAT RUNS DOWN MY ( BLEEP )

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: THANK YOU,

  • BOOTSIE, AND THANK YOU TO CONGRESSMAN JAMAAL BOWMAN.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH OSCAR AND EMMY AWARD WINNING ACTOR AND

  • DIRECTOR REGINA KING.

  • ♪♪♪ ♪

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